Load order problems

[aaronthiel]

I'm crashing to the desktop on the first load screen.

 

Fallout3.esm

CALIBR.esm

FOOK.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

sc_lovers_resource.esm

sc_saving_nova_dep.esm

sc_wasteland_pimp.esm

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esp

Fellout-Full.esp

GreenWorld.esp

MaxLevelWorkaround-HP.esp

FreePlayAfterMQ_V05.esp

Regulators_Overhaul.esp

Repair Rethought.esp

FleshBurningPlasma.esp

StripClub.esp

RaiderMercenaryExpanded.esp

FollowersHire.esp

sc_wp_arefu.esp

sc_wp_captives.esp

sc_wp_luring_lucy.esp

sc_acquiring_mei.esp

sc_blackmailing_silver.esp

1alexscorpionsnipergear.esp

DTOMRC3.esp

WastelandMastery.esp

UPP - Pack 1.esp

FOOK.esp

FOOK - Free Play After MQ.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

WeaponModKits.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK.esp

Josef Greys Kozaburo Hair Style for Fallout 3.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp

GalaxyNewsRadio100[M].esp

FOOK - Tougher Enemies.esp

BM06AppleTreeQuest.esp

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

JessiCompanion.esp

KelseyCompanion.esp

Shaikujins_Chrome_Dogmeat_Armour.esp

Clover DIMONIZED.esp

SPCross DIMONIZED German C.esp

Destructible Mini Nuke.esp

sc_cajoling_reilly.esp

sc_wp_saving_nova_bridge.esp

sc_toying_with_angela.esp

BMPA-Instant.esp

[uU] Unique Uniques .04.esp

HZ_SCARandAKS47.esp

Fellout-pipboylight.esp

1PipboyPDA.esp

Bunker72 v3.esm

B72v3 Clutterfree.esp

B72v3-01.esp

Micro Bikini and more recolors.esp

sc_wp_red.esp

EVE Beta_0.9.2.esp

Animy_prostitution.esp

 

Total active plugins: 62

Total plugins: 125

 

 

As you can see of got bits of mod packages all over the place. Any advice from load order , to mods to swap out and updates would be great. Thanks.

 

Also a "Load Order" how to sticky might be handy.

[mechine]

Clover DIMONIZED.esp Most people say you can only use one mod that changes race/hair/eyes look into it.

SPCross DIMONIZED German C.esp

Josef Greys Kozaburo Hair Style for Fallout 3.esp

 

 

JessiCompanion.esp Most people say only run one player made Companion, look into it though.

KelseyCompanion.esp

 

 

Repair Rethought.esp I think this is built into FOOK, go check, or just drop it.

 

FreePlayAfterMQ_V05.esp Built into FOOK, drop it.

 

 

 

 

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esp Depending on where you put this it either will overwrite others, or others will overwrite it

I keep it before fook an let stuff overwrite it.

 

Fellout-pipboylight.esp This has to go before FOOK

1PipboyPDA.esp Make sure this will work with the fellout pipboylight, you may have to load one before the other.

 

 

FOOK.esp Most load Fook close to the .esm because it's a huge mod, but a few go before it like the pipboy light an maybe even UFP

FOOK - Free Play After MQ.esp Told you it was built in.

FOOK - Tougher Enemies.esp

 

MaxLevelWorkaround-HP.esp Put these two like this, also group things together, guns with guns, armor with armor, effect with effect an such

WastelandMastery.esp

 

 

The rest of it doesn't matter, but group it togeter, the part from FOOK to Fellout or enhanced weather

is the 3/4 spot which the order really doesn't matter because it's all small mods that just add a few things

 

 

 

Fellout-Full.esp These go right before MMM with MMM very last, depending on which you have first will deterimine which controls weather.

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

 

 

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

(compatibility patches maybe here, maybe at the very end)

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK.esp I think the compatibility patches go here, but could go above too after the main .esp

 

 

 

 

 

Download FOMM, FOSE (use the one for the patch you use), FO3edit, GECK, and don't forget to toggle archive invalidation invalidation on

I think you only toggle it on once, but you may have to do it off an back on again in the future if a weird problem comes up.

 

 

You should concider using FO3edit's master update ability, it will make things work better and also allow somethings that shouldn't work

together to actually work, part of the process fixes a few mods, and it's pretty easy.

 

You should have installed Fallout 3 outside of program files

 

C:/bethesdasoftworks

rather than

C:/programfiles/bethesdasoftworks

but you can just wait till the next install to fix it unless it's causing problems

 

 

LOLZ there is a pinned topic on how to install mods with DLC's

You have to read alot, and it's really hard compared to other games

it's all pretty hard.

 

 

Also if it's not active I just remove the plug in

you're list says you have 125 total plug in's which might make the load order look like a nightmare

if you're not going to use it, delete it.

 

 

 

I've been running this load order, but I'm currently fixing conflicts with FO3edit

because some of them are not meant to be used together, it's alot of work

but using normal FO3edit mode can help fix things an also make it more custom for what you wanted.

 

 

Fallout3.esm

CALIBR.esm

FOOK.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

MMZombieCemetery.esm

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

RI_Core.esm

Sharing and Caring Companions.esm

CRAFT.esm

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esp

GNR Fix.esp

PCB.esp

HAZdrugs.esp

bltc.esp

BLTC No Overdosing.esp

BLTC Less Addictions.esp

BLTC Hypo Fix.esp

RI_Base3.esp

RI_PNeeds2S.esp

RI_Alcohol.esp

RI_DoctorCost.esp

RI_CrippledEffects.esp

RI_FOSE.esp

RI_PNOrfCorePatch.esp

Fellout-pipboylight.esp

FOOK.esp

RI_PNOrfPatch+bltc+FOOK.esp

FOOK - Owned!.esp

FOOK - Tougher Enemies.esp

FOOK - Strength Requirements for Miniguns, Gatlings, 20mm Flak.esp

FOOK - Free Play After MQ.esp

FOOK - Additional Power Armor Training.esp

FOOK-ReducedFireDuration.esp

FOOK - Fawkes Quickfix.esp

MoreMapMarkers.esp

rcaddon.esp

Megaton Tweaks 1.28.esp

Water_Tower_Hideout_byOrophin.esp

tubRRCompound.esp

DCInteriors_Georgtown.esp

DCInteriors_Mason.esp

Metal Salvage.esp

Showers.esp

Forge.esp

FireLightFix.esp

Potw V0.6.esp

Megaton Closes.esp

GPs Oasis - Clean Water 1.1.esp

OasisStorage.esp

QuantumPipeV2.esp

RecieveTenpennySuite.esp

TL_Color.esp

CALIBRxMerchant.esp

CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp

Stealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.esp

CRAFT - Workbench and Crafting Expansion combined.esp

FOOK Weapons - CRAFT.esp

CALIBR Ammo Schematics - CRAFT.esp

Workbench_Crafting_Expansion.esp

SCC - Talk to Anyone.esp

T_R_A_S_C_H.esp

SCC Armor.esp

FollowersRelax.esp

real deputy weld V0.2.esp

BraveDogmeat.esp

royphilipsveryevilwmask.esp

collectionagent_improved.esp

Trader100%Repair.esp

NPCs Sleep Tighter.esp

Moira.esp

CaravanUpgrades.esp

Rivet_city_security.esp

Not alone in the Wasteland anymore.esp

CapsDoubled.esp

fessentialdeathtime180.esp

ExplodingRadios.esp

Perk_martialart_ENGfix.esp

Melee-UnarmedPACKeng.esp

Cybernetics.esp

SunGlassesFX.esp

implants.esp

MRE.esp

UPP - Pack 1.esp

UPP - Pack 2.esp

Magic Fingers Perk.esp

Dree Perks.esp

DotW v1.00.esp

Explosive Entry.esp

ghoulification.esp

Cybernetic Implants Xangi.esp

WieldableTorches.esp

mazas_campfire.esp

AfrosNukaCola.esp

FDA1x.esp

FalloutFood.esp

MGSBox.esp

MoreNukaCola.esp

Bottle That Water.esp

suitcase_nuke.esp

hundredfists.esp

FullAutoPistolsV20test.esp

IREye.esp

Weapon Sound Fixes.esp

KaBOOM.esp

LessBouncyGrenades.esp

Graphical Nuke Mod.esp

dD-More Gore.esp

dD-Less Blood Time.esp

MaxLevelWorkaround-HP.esp

WastelandMastery.esp

FallDamage101.esp

LongerDeathCamera.esp

DK_BulletTime.esp

VATS - MCE.esp

VatsLongerDistance.esp

Precision_AutoAim_6000.esp

Range Finder v1.0.esp

GatlingLaserDX.esp

ShellRain.esp

Inebriation-FOSE.esp

UsableCigarettes.esp

NPC Height Randomizer.esp

F3UmpaAnimation.esp

The Groovatron.esp

NailedToDeath.esp

Ultra Olney.esp

krzymar-MoonSize_300%.esp

No Blur Effect.esp

Fellout-Full.esp

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp

Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp

Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Increased Spawns.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - No Geckos.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - No Wanamingos.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - No Floaters.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zombie Cementery.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK.esp

RI_PNMMM.esp

[aaronthiel]

Thanks for all the help.

 

I'm going to keep my save game files and re-install Fallout3.

 

After that I'm going to update to the latest patch and look for the most current versions of my favorite mods.

 

I messed with enough of the original files without saving originals, it's a wonder it worked at all.

[mechine]

heh

 

 

all the originals are stored inside the .BSA archive files

 

 

you have to unpack them to use them

 

 

if you wanted to change one just unpack it an then replace the one by the same name inside the mod files

 

meshes textures sounds ect

 

 

Also like using the GECK you have to unpack a bunch of stuff just to be able to use GECK somewhat

 

GECK doesn't look for content inside the .BSA files.

 

 

So there's really no need to save the originals, it's not like you can overwrite the .BSA

[aaronthiel]

I ran through my load order one at a time restarting FO3.

 

I'm planning on adding a couple mods like FOOK and Wep Mod Kits etc so thats why I have interop and compatibility patches not in use.

 

Only mod I can't get to work is Azars Arefu Expanded. I think it's probably a conflict with MMM.

 

These are what I have so far, if someone wouldn't mind sorting this list I'd be much obliged.

Fallout3.esm

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

SeducingWomen.esm

sc_wasteland_pimp.esm

sc_lovers_resource.esm

sc_saving_nova_dep.esm

ShadySands.esp

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

FollowersHire.esp

Shaikujins_Chrome_Dogmeat_Armour.esp

KelseyCompanion.esp

JessiCompanion.esp

Overhead3PCamera.esp

MaxLevel40.esp

MaxLevelWorkaround-HP.esp

UPP - Pack 1.esp

WastelandMastery.esp

KillableKidsNormalHealth.esp

Destructible Mini Nuke.esp

ModBetterPowerArmor75VATS.esp

BMPA-Instant.esp

bzBodySuits.esp

bzArmour-nude.esp

bzArmour-non-nude.esp

MicroBikini_recolour.esp

thongpack.esp

RaiderMercenaryExpanded.esp

YearlingsGlasses.esp

CSwimsuit_and_Harness_recolor.esp

Micro Bikini and more recolors.esp

Gas stop.esp

sc_blackmailing_silver.esp

sc_cajoling_reilly.esp

sc_acquiring_mei.esp

sc_toying_with_angela.esp

sc_wp_captives.esp

sc_wp_arefu.esp

sc_wp_luring_lucy.esp

sc_wp_saving_nova_bridge.esp

sc_wp_red.esp

Animy_prostitution.esp

DTOMRC3.esp

Regulators_Overhaul.esp

GalaxyNewsRadio100[M].esp

DCInteriors_SewardSq.esp

DCInteriors_Georgtown.esp

DCInteriors_Mason.esp

EVE Beta_0.9.2.esp

Fellout-Full.esp

K2_PlayWearClub.esp

StripClub.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

 

Total active plugins: 58

Total plugins: 79

 

 

Total active plugins: 48

Total plugins: 83