csb Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Actually, the 10's of thousands number cited is pre-SALT II. Both Russia and the US have dismantled huge parts of their arsenals, with strict oversight to ensure that they have done so. lol ... that's not to imply that either one are now toothless tigers. But why maintain the upkeep for destroying the world a 100 times over, when maintaining the capability to do it twice-over is just as deadly and more cost-efficient? :D China has nuclear weapons as well, but lack sufficient strategic delivery assets to blanket the globe. Also, their possession of MIRV-capable missiles is lacking (based on Jane's). But then, intelligence data has been wrong before :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spammster Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 and another one "promise i make it shorter" energy weapons: well, there obviously will be some leftovers, but even if ya get over the point that its actually energy weapons, microfusion-cells as power source (not to mention, if they got microfusion cells, which at least in theory create way more energy than a fission device while being far less dangerous radiation wise, haven't they switched entirely to MF-cells) ? how the hell do you manage to produce a temperature of above 10 million degree in a battery sized device (it gotta fit in that weapon somehow) ? and even if you manage that, how do you manage to keep the temperature inside the battery without melting the entire thing in your hands ? not that I mind me my energy weapons in the game, but for realisms sake, fallout would have done better without em. but i can't say it often enough, its a game and it does not have to be realistic, if i want realistic i go play "Real Life", got roughly 6 billion players, awesome graphics and physics and you have an unlimited and non-predefined way of doing things ;) yeah i actually had china in that list before but they were listed at around 800 and it didn't seem fair to list em with the big players who each had around 10k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macromicro Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 But you have to admit, Rad-away is totally possible. particles that absob radiation and draw the radiation out by exiting the body. it sounds totally possible. PLUS: we are forgetting on teeny tiny detail here in the survival rate. VAULTS! that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devdrago12 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Areed with the vaults. I mean, we figured out lead wasn't affected in the what- 50's I think? So, who's to say other possibly even cheap materials couldn't be used to make vaults? Also, I don't know if this helps, (and it prob doesn't lol- I'm not THAT much of a scientest) but it was saying under CERTAIN condidtions ghouls could be made- mutation as said, can happen fast, so it's theoretically possible. As for Megaton, the people did need a home, so they could've had up-keep for the crater, possibly making it deeper. Also, when it comes to the EMP stuff, if the machine is turned off- as said- then how did the vaults work whenever the bombs had just hit?? If the people had just gotten in the vaults and they had just closed- the bombs hit- then how were the vaults power not shut down? It's steel- not EMP proof, lol. Certain things we will never know, but some of it's possible- thats good enough for me. That's my 2 cents, I do wonder how ghouls would be made though...... :thanks: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macromicro Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 maybe the vaults are e.m.p.-proof. after all, they were made to withstand big booms. lol.o.k. about the vaults closing, here's how it could have happened! the bombs hit. the people flee to the vaults. BUT after the bombs hit, they turned all the stuff on! the vaults would be turned off while the bombs hit and before, then, when people got in, they turned it on!ABOUT THE GHOUL CHILDREN: children can become ghouls, plus, maybe the rotting is only external. except for that one ghoul that says he's falling apart, but maybe its a rare case. also: why doesn't jet affect them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spammster Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 there's children ghouls ? where does one find one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devdrago12 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 To Spam, there are none. Also, I can see what you're saying Macromicro, but the vault citizens would have to be a little fast, lol, to get in the vaults for them to not shut down as you enter lol. Wouldn't that suck, BTW, to get in a vault only for it to not close for power shortage, lol. And I would think ghouls nervous system would falter after so long- no nerves no pleasure. Also, the ghoul you give sugar bombs to explains, but I don't remember. Someone does need to make a kid ghoul though- that would be awsome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spammster Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 well I assume thats simply because ghoul brain chemistry is different from regular human brain chemistry and they probably have less noradrenaline and dopamin in their brains, therefore Jet is less effective and you either need to push more to increase levels or use a version that results in releasing higher levels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macromicro Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 TO EVERYONE NOT SEEING CHILD GHOULS: go to underworld, and talk to carol about her stories... the became a ghoul by getting a large radiation dose just after the bombs went off.... somehow she didn't die for all the reasons you guys said, I'm not talking about sexual reproduction.. I'm talking about a child becoming a ghoul. which raises the question, How did she grow to a full adult size with a ghoul mutation? P.s. there's something on the wiki about a half- ghoul child, when a normal human... you knows.. with a ghoul and makes a mutant baby! P.s.s. there are no ghoul children in the fallout games, but there should have been..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spammster Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 wonders what would happen if you make a new ghoul NPC and give it a size of 0.7 and 0.7 weight, that should fit about a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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