Does Snap-To-Grid Just Not Work Very Well?

[David Brasher]

I am working on a cave dungeon, and I really don't like all the seams between floor tiles. I know that they exist in vanilla Oblivion dungeons, but it seems like Snap-To-Grid generates more of them than you find in the vanilla dungeons. Manual adjustment is very time-consuming, and the results are spotty. Tiles too close together give the brown flashing effect, and tiles too far apart give you the chasing black dots as you can intermittently see between tiles into black nothingness.

 

I am using the cave tileset, and Snap-to-Grip 32 (16 behaves the same way, and 24 is wrong for the cave tileset.)

 

Maybe in TES 5 they will make it impossible to foul up. Have overlap that does not occupy the same identical space, and have auto Snap-To-Grip in three dimensions that you can turn off with a manual override.

 

I am also wondering if seams are rendered differently on different computers with different resolution settings. A scary thought. I could get my cave perfect on my machine, and mod users might see seams. Conversely, my system might be worse than average, and I may be chasing ghosts. Fixing problems which are not even rendered on better systems.

[David Brasher]

I had another thought. Maybe the cave tileset is defective and is prone to developing these problems. When I made an Oblivion cave awhile back, and when I modified a ruined fort, I do not remember having issues with seams.

[Pronam]

There are some cave-statics that use a strange grid indeed. I either manually move them or try to find a good number.

But after a few times you realize it isn't really working well with some of the other statics...

I never examined the things closely though, I've never finished that dungeon.

 

any modern user is above either near or above the 1200, and never lower than 1000. Unless you've got anything above 1600, I don't think there is much to worry about. But yes, everything looks different at other computers...but that has always been the case.

[David Brasher]

There has not been much of a response to this question. I guess it is about time to close it. I am just not sure what conclusion to draw. Here are the choices as I see them:

 

(1) Almost nobody else has this problem. It is unique to my computer or settings. The black chasing dots and lines are only visible on my system.

 

(2) Everybody has this problem. It is a flaw in the game. Everyone sees so many black dots and lines on the floors of caves that they learn to ignore them and not think about them.

 

So does anyone have an opinion on this matter?

Does anyone have black dots and lines?

[Maigrets]

No, it's definitely not unique to your system. Just extremely frustrating. :pinch:

 

I sometimes have a lot of trouble lining things up and my patience wears very thin. But, I persevere. It doesn't help that my right hand shakes a bit at times and just when I have a wall or something perfectly aligned, whoops, my hand twitched and it's all undone.

 

The vanilla dungeons have more faults than you'd believe, they are just, in most cases, well hidden. Like falling through floors and walls without collision. I know the Leyawiin Fighter's Guild Basement mesh has a wall you can just fall through. :wallbash: A Collision box fixed that one.

 

I don't have black dots and lines, but I have had the brown flashing effect on occasion. It doesn't seem to matter what I have my Prefs set at they still don't co-operate without a lot of minute and time consuming adjustment.

 

After my first house mod I vowed never to do another, but I have, and another is in progress as a request for a friend. I must be a glutton for punishment, but actually after awhile it becomes relaxing and addictive.