FranzKef Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I've started playing Oblivion again recently, got some mods and everything was going fine. No crashes at all (which is what put me off playing last time). Anyways, then I downloaded a few more mods, and now... well, I'm getting CTDs. They're not happening all the time like they used to, which is good, but unfortunately every time I load a save file, there's a crash. Luckily this is just in-game, so I can still load when I start the game up, but as somebody who's a hopeless cheater (>_>) that reloads if a Persuasion doesn't go right, this is a bit of a problem. D: Uh, anyways, here's the mod list, straight from Wrye Bash. The mods that I downloaded just before the crashes started are in red. Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 02 HorseCombatMaster.esm ** TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp ** TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp 03 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] 04 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 05 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] 06 Cities Alive At Night.esp 07 AliveWaters.esp 08 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp 09 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp 0A Portable Campsite - Quickstart.esp 0B Crowded Roads Advanced.esp [Version 1.3] 0C DLCHorseArmor.esp 0D DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 0E DLCOrrery.esp 0F DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] 10 DLCVileLair.esp 11 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 12 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 13 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 14 DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] 15 PersuasionOverhaul.esp 16 Thieves Arsenal.esp 17 Dude Wheres My Horse.esp 18 DLCThievesDen.esp 19 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 1A DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] 1B [b][color="#FF0000"]Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp[/color][/b] 1C [b][color="#FF0000"]OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp[/color][/b] ++ [b][color="#FF0000"]OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp [Version 0.2][/color][/b] 1D OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp 1E [b][color="#FF0000"]Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp[/color][/b] 1F [b][color="#FF0000"]VaultsofCyrodiil.esp[/color][/b] 20 za_bankmod.esp 21 DLCFrostcrag.esp 22 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 23 Knights.esp 24 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 25 [b][color="#FF0000"]Birthsigns Expanded.esp [Version 2.1.][/color][/b] 26 Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 CT.esp 27 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.1.1] 28 RenGuardOverhaul.esp 29 RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp 2A Denock Arrows.esp 2B Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp 2C DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp 2D [b][color="#FF0000"]Oblivion XP.esp [Version 4.1.5][/color][/b] 2E Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp 2F bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D] ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp [Version 9.0EV-U] ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp [Version 10.0EV-D] ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10] ** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp [Version 10.0EV-D] ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalBetterRedguards.esp 30 bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge Better Redguards.esp [Version 10.0EV-D] 31 bgBalancingOptionalNPCDiversityKvatchRebuilt, for Wrye Bash.esp [Version 9.0EV-D] 32 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 33 [b][color="#8B0000"]Streamline 3.1.esp[/color][/b] 34 ++ROOT=====================.esp 35 ++LIBRARY==================.esp 36 ++LIBRARY+1================.esp 37 ++COSMETIC=================.esp 38 ++CLOTHING=================.esp 39 ++WEAPON===================.esp 3A ++TWEAK-1==================.esp 3B ++TWEAK====================.esp 3C ++TWEAK+1==================.esp 3D ++TWEAK+2==================.esp 3E ++OVERHAUL-1===============.esp 3F ++OVERHAUL=================.esp 40 ++OVERHAUL+1===============.esp 41 ++OVERHAUL+2===============.esp 42 ++OVERHAUL+3===============.esp 43 ++OVERHAUL+4===============.esp 44 ++MISC.====================.esp 45 ++MISC.+1==================.esp 46 ++MAGIC====================.esp 47 ++MAGIC+1==================.esp 48 ++MAGIC+2==================.esp 49 ++NPC======================.esp 4A ++HOME=====================.esp 4B ++HOME+1===================.esp 4C ++PLACE====================.esp 4D ++PLACE+1==================.esp 4E ++QUEST-1==================.esp 4F ++QUEST====================.esp 50 ++QUEST+1==================.esp 51 ++QUEST+2==================.esp 52 ++QUEST+3==================.esp 53 ++NONE=====================.esp ++ TML_ShadySam.esp 54 Mercenaries.esp 55 ++LAST-1===================.esp 56 ++LAST=====================.esp 57 ++LAST+1===================.esp About Streamline, it's not quite new, er, I had the 2.1 version, but BOSS told me to get 3.1, so uh, yeah.I have no idea how to get this working properly again, any advice? >.<Thanks for any help. Oh yeah, as for all those QUEST/PLACE/etc things at the bottom, I used the Balo thing on Wrye Bash. I'm pretty hopeless with programs like that to be honest, lol, so I uhh.. kinda didn't know what to do with those. Didn't know whether to check them or just leave them unchecked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Crashes are a part of the Oblivion experience. It's the game's way of telling you that you need to take a break. :whistling: There will always be some crashes, all we can do is minimize them. Save often, it will keep the frustration level down. :wallbash: Anything running in the background can cause a crash. Especially a program that likes to call home, such as an antivirus program that updates without warning, or an instant messaging program trying to connect. :down: Start by disabling everything that accesses the internet when you play. that includes the Vonage, Skype, IM, xfire and anything that calls in or out. You might even disable internet access altogether. Many programs use an auto update feature - such as HP printers (how often does your printer driver need updating?)MS auto update can cause crashes. Some of these will even try to connect when the internet is disabled, and keep trying every ten minutes or so. If you can, disable the autoupdate function, at least while playing. :( Then look for programs that run in the background, they are stealing time from the game and if they don't give control back quick enough - crash. MS indexing service, antivirus progs that scan everything in the background, Auto defrag programs, Scheduling programs all steal cycles from the game. Any of these can cause crashes. >:( After you have cut down the crashes caused by external stuff, start looking at your mods. Some mods just don't play well with others. And for some the load order is very important. BOSS works for most load order problems, but it can't set them all. There are over 15,000 mods on Tesnexus alone. Another often overlooked source of crashes is removing a mod. If you remove a mod that affects game play, it can cause a crash when something from the missing mod is referenced in game. The most common is the unable to enter Bruma crash. This is caused when you complete a part of the main quest with one character, make a new character, load an old save and try to enter Bruma with the new character. There is something (spoiler) in Bruma that references your old character - which is no longer in the game. Then there are the Nvidia black screen crashes. A quick way around them is to disable both AA and HDR in your video settings. Then after you are passed the point where the black screen occurs, re-enable whichever you use. There are many posts telling what has worked for some, and not worked for others, along with several mods that help. Try this, Windom Earle_s Oblivion Crash Prevention System :thumbsup: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22282 It completely eliminated my crash on exit as well as some others (but not all) Note, it is not a mod and doesn't install like a mod, so be sure to read the instructions. :closedeyes: New info. A lot of unused .exe files left in the /data folder can cause problems. It seems that Oblivion likes to look through all of the unused files and even the extra folders in the /oblivion folder. new recommendation, make a new folder - OUTSIDE of /oblivion to keep this unused stuff. such as Bethesda/Oblivion_Mods. Note that Later versions of Wrye bash already do this with the ghosting feature. If you have a folder for unused mods in your /Oblivion folder, move it into the new/Oblivion_Mods folder. :rolleyes: Essentially, clean up your Oblivio/data folder and move everything not needed in /Oblivion and /Data to a new folder outside of /Oblivion. If you are keeping your original or copies of zipped downloads inside of the /Oblivion folder, move them out too. Also, if you can, empty the windows prefetch folder it may be keeping info on older now unused mods, and Oblivion will look for them if it sees that they are supposed to be there. You probably won't be able to get rid of all of them, but you can minimize them. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranzKef Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 Thanks for the help, I tried out all the stuff you suggested, but the game still crashed when I tried to load in-game. I looked around some other forums, and it seems a few people have had the same problem. Couldn't find any solutions, I'm hoping it only happened because I installed mods after starting the game. >.< Anyway, couldn't stop it happening, so I've started a new game. Tested it and so far the crashes aren't happening. *goes to re-complete the quests* >_> [EDIT] Hah, your sig reminds me of my experiences with Fallout 3. While I'm playing, I seem to spend about an hour a night looking for fixes to crashes. >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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