Riplyn Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Hey all,I need help with a bug I've encountered twice now, the first time I thought it would be a one time thing, but now it happened again with a new save (after I deleted the first one). The bug is NPCs are all acting essential, where I will lower they're health all the way, then they will merely fall to the ground, recover, and get back up as any other essential npc would. Both times this bug happened after I slept at an inn. I found it this time as a the Forsworn guy was attacked by a guard in Markarth, but after the guard "killed" him, the guy just got back up. I then tested this by using the kill command on a guard, and sure enough the guard just fell to his knees. I will paste my load order here, however, keep in mind that I used BOSS for it, so I an betting using it's config with my own adjustments here and there: GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Dawnguard.esm=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1HearthFires.esm=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Dragonborn.esm=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1wyrmstooth.esp=1Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1TradeBarter.esp=1Hunterborn.esp=1Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp=1Immersive Battles.esp=1Immersive Brigands.esp=1Immersive Dawnguard.esp=1Immersive Dragonborn.esp=1Immersive Factions.esp=1Immersive Mercenaries.esp=1Immersive Patrols.esp=1Immersive Travelers.esp=1Immersive Werewolves.esp=1jbs_banking_redux.esp=0ktxcompleteskyforge.esp=1moredragonloot.esp=0retakrew7_chest.esp=1Character Creation Overhaul.esp=1RaceMenu.esp=1RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1iHUD.esp=1dgexoticsmithing.esp=0Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1lefthandrings.esp=1Dr_Bandolier.esp=1SkyRe_Main.esp=1SkyRe_Combat.esp=1SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp=1SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp=1SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp=1SkyRe_StandingStones.esp=1SkyRe_Survivalism.esp=1quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp=0betterdawnstar.esp=1betterinns.esp=1bettermarkarthexterieur.esp=1bettermorthal.esp=1betterwinterhold.esp=1tos_granitehall.esp=1hg.esp=0markarth_plus.esp=1quest_nomercy.esp=0quest_pitfighter.esp=0quest_sorcery.esp=0Run For Your Lives.esp=1When Vampires Attack.esp=1quest_seaofghosts.esp=0quest_thebiggertheyare.esp=0whiterunexenhanced.esp=1betterfactionscomplete.esp=0CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp=1CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp=1Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1longer range vanilla weapons (dawnguard edition).esp=0SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp=1SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.esp=1Convenient Horses.esp=1riverwoodenhancedplugin.esp=1taveriften.esp=1tavesolitude.esp=1tavewindhelm.esp=1tavevillages.esp=1tos_amber_guard.esp=1tos_laintardale_hf.esp=1tos_oakwood_hf.esp=1whiteruninenhanced.esp=1tavefalkreath.esp=1sos - the dungeons.esp=1sos - the wilds.esp=1sos - civilization.esp=1dragon knowledge spell.esp=0teleportarrows.esp=0CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp=1train 99 times per level.esp=0sneaktreerevamp.esp=03DNPC.esp=1RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp=1dovahbit.esp=0dovahbit2.esp=0Inigo.esp=1AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1alternate start - live another life.esp=1CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp=1SkyRe_Races.esp=1cartographers map markers.esp=1Pre ReProccer WAFR IA7 Patch.esp=1ReProccer.esp=1sir. rodney longbar's big book of cheats.esp=0drop_skulls_sp0ckrates.esp=0lordship.esp=0enchantingtreerevamp.esp=0wolves.esp=0Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1Post ReProccer Fixes IA7 Patch.esp=1 Ask me if you have any questions I didn't address, Riplyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebsif Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Hey OP, did u find a way to fix it? Same thing here :( Hey all,I need help with a bug I've encountered twice now, the first time I thought it would be a one time thing, but now it happened again with a new save (after I deleted the first one). The bug is NPCs are all acting essential, where I will lower they're health all the way, then they will merely fall to the ground, recover, and get back up as any other essential npc would. Both times this bug happened after I slept at an inn. I found it this time as a the Forsworn guy was attacked by a guard in Markarth, but after the guard "killed" him, the guy just got back up. I then tested this by using the kill command on a guard, and sure enough the guard just fell to his knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodom87 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I have been having the same issue as well, though it started up only when i traveled to solstheim. Originally when i first arrived all the guards were headless, and upon removing a mod their heads came back, but now every npc is actin essential like Riplyn stated. My master files are cleaned and other than this I am experiencing no issues, no CTD's or otherwise, but obviously, this makes the game unplayable. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Here is my load order GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Dawnguard.esm=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1HearthFires.esm=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Dragonborn.esm=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1Falskaar.esm=1Wyrmstooth.esp=1ApachiiHair.esm=1Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm=1ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1JSwords.esm=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1SPIKE.esm=1WinterholdDestruction.esm=1HighResTexturePack01.esp=1HighResTexturePack02.esp=1HighResTexturePack03.esp=1Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1Morning Fogs.esp=1RevampedExteriorFog.esp=1SplashofRain.esp=1Supreme Fog - CoT.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp=1AMatterOfTime.esp=1Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1BorderSense.esp=1Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1HoldBorderBanners.esp=1Hunterborn.esp=1Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp=1Immersive Brigands.esp=1Immersive Dawnguard.esp=1Immersive Dragonborn.esp=1Immersive Factions.esp=1Immersive Mercenaries.esp=1Immersive Patrols.esp=1Immersive Travelers.esp=1Immersive Werewolves.esp=1Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp=1SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp=1SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp=1SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp=1SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp=1ShootingStars.esp=1Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1Smoking Torches.esp=1TESGLoadingScreens.esp=1TouringCarriages.esp=1WetandCold.esp=1WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp=1Footprints.esp=1JSwords_Load_Screens.esp=1RaceMenu.esp=1RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1towConversation.esp=1vAutosaveManager.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1iHUD.esp=1AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp=1BosmerArmorMATY743.esp=1bosmerarmormaty743part1.esp=1bosmerarmormaty743part2.esp=1bosmerarmormaty743part3.esp=1Cloaks.esp=1Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1DragonbornArmorFix.esp=1haytham kenway apparel.esp=1hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp=1PKNordicSpellweaver.esp=1tomahawkaciiiwepmod.esp=1Wandererarmor.esp=1Dr_Bandolier.esp=1Equipping Overhaul.esp=1SkyRe_Combat.esp=1SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp=1SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp=1SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp=1Dragon Falls Manor.esp=1Hunting in Skyrim.esp=1Mapseller.esp=1Mapseller Dawnguard.esp=1Mapseller Dragonborn.esp=1PumpingIron.esp=1winterhold_improvements.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp=1Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1Book Covers Dawnguard.esp=1Book Covers Hearthfire.esp=1Book Covers Dragonborn.esp=1Differently Ebony.esp=1Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1Headtracking.esp=1SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp=1Convenient Horses.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1WeaponsArmorFixes_ambSkyforge_Patch.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp=1ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp=1RealisticRoomRental.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-PersidRRentalPatch.esp=1RRR_Hearthfire-Patch.esp=1EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1ELFX - NoTaverns.esp=1ELFX - Dawnguard.esp=1ELFX - Dragonborn.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp=1Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp=1CoT-WeatherPatch.esp=1CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp=1CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp=1CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp=1CoT-WeatherPatch_NL2.esp=1ELFXEnhancer.esp=1Better Vampires.esp=1Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp=1DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp=1Locational Damage.esp=1The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=13DNPC.esp=1RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp=1RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1FalskaarRNDHotfix.esp=1moveit.esp=1dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1RealShelter.esp=1spells cast light.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp=1Unique Region Names.esp=1SkyFalls + SkyMills.esp=1SkyFalls + SkyMills Dawnguard.esp=1SkyFalls + SkyMills Dragonborn.esp=1SkyFalls + SkyMills Falskaar.esp=1SkyFalls + SkyMills Wyrmstooth.esp=1Superior Rorikstead.esp=1Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp=1Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp=1Prometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.esp=1AHZmoreHUD.esp=1HearthfireChimneys.esp=1FyrManor_BASE.esp=1FyrManor_HEARTHFIRE.esp=1FyrManor_DAWNGUARD.esp=1FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp=1Falskaar Wildlife.esp=1TreaclemanFalskaarPatch.esp=1merchantsfillsoulgems.esp=1Improved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.esp=0 ================> (this is the mod causing headless guards)WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp=1TradeRoutes.esp=1TradeRoutes-RNaD-Patch.esp=1TradeRoutes-SkyRe-Patch.esp=1BCS - SkyRe Patch EN.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1SkyRe_Main.esp=1SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp=1SkyRe_CraftingFix.esp=1SkyRe_Survivalism.esp=1ReProccer.esp=1ReProccerDragonborn.esp=1ReProccerNONPLAYERfix.esp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrophile Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Old thread, but I've been experiencing the exact same bug. All of the NPCs in Markarth are invincible. When their health drops to zero, it just resets to full again. Some keep going, others go into bleedout. The weird thing is, this seems specific to Markarth - When I went outside, the guards by the gate were killable, but Weylin (who followed me out) was still invulnerable. Any help would be most appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymiandw3et Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 nobody ? bump http://weber.ninecomputer.com/9.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undergroundn9na Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 hey guys Old thread i had the same problem and uninstalled run for your lives mod and everything was okay some guards were still essential but most werent i thinkthere was only one guard marked as essential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cezat Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 If anyone still gets this eror try uninstal run for your lifes . Totaly guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinz92 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) I actually encountered a similar bug today when I loaded up my save to continue the Forsworn Conspiracy in Markarth. I went to gather information from the Treasury House and, after questioning Thornar, Betrid fell to her knees and no one in the house would die until a Markarth Guard from outside came to try and arrest me. Funnily enough, not only were they immune to death, they did not attack at all... And I've ran Run For Your Lives for months without this issue ever cropping up. I even was able to kill the people in the Treasury House just fine last night. Edited April 14, 2015 by mackinz92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamatoo Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 i got the same problem, but when i use "isessential" the value is 0 so they are not essential. i checked the mod that introduced the npcs, but i killed a bandit from better dark brotherhood mod and when i tried on another the npc didn't died. i checked the values but again it's the same for both npc's, as well as the spells and active or inactive effects. i unchecked run for your lives and started a new game and it's still happening :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethal874 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I'm confirming that "Run for Your Lives" was causing this error for me. This is probably due to some incompatibility to another mod I've recently been using. This is an extremely annoying bug so I'm leaving my load order in case anybody wants to try and figure out what "Run for Your Lives" is incompatible with. # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espDawnguard.esmUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espHearthFires.esmUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espDragonborn.esmUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espWyrmstooth.espClimatesOfTamriel.esmJSwords.esmSPERG.esmGray Fox Cowl.esmFalskaar.esmCharacter Creation Overhaul.espAncientTonguesGreatSword.espBishu Osafune-ju Morikage.espPND.espDivine Aegis.espCCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.espSPERG-DB.espSkyUI.espMagicka Sabers.espCoT-WeatherPatch.espAOS.espSPERG.espDeadlyDragons.espDaedricAssassinArmorLight.espWerewolfPerksExpanded.espDeadlySpellImpacts.espAnimated Dragon Wings.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espAOS2_EBT Patch.espDeadlyDragonsArmory.espCCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espDragonboneCrossbow.espFS_NamelessLight.espDCR_Blade_Set_Reloaded_v1_0.espEnchantedArsenal.espWintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.espEternalShineArmorAndWeapons.espFS_Skycutter.espFS_SwordofTruth.espFS_Ygrayne.espInferno Weapons and Armors Set -The Arms of Hell Flame-.espDaedricAssassinArmorHeavy.espImperious - Races of Skyrim.espFrostmourne.espDivine Aegis Sword.espISD_DragonspearCraft.espPrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.espTrueStorms.espMagic of the Magna-Ge.espSPERG-DG.espbrawlbug-plugin.espORM-Arvak.espMasters of Death - Sicarius Armor (Standalone).espmintylightningmod.espPlayer Size Adjuster.espRUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.espRaceMenuPlugin.espChesko_WearableLantern.espRealisticHuskySounds.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.espRaceMenu.espRealistic werewolf speed.espSkyCompleteLegendary.espCCO - Diverse Races And Genders.espSkyrimSizesLore.espSpectraverse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.espThundering Shouts.espTrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.espFudou Myouou.espUnreadBooksGlow.espBetter Dynamic Snow.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures.espRebirth Monster.espRebirth Monster - SIC Patch.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espdD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.espfairy.espHelgen Reborn.espUndeath.espSkyHavenTempleEnhanced.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espSkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.espSoS - The Wilds.esp83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.espAOS2_CoT3_1_patch.espThunderchild - Epic Shout Package.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espImproved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.espSoS - The Dungeons.espLurking in the shadows.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.espImproved Dragon Shouts.espImproved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.espMore Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.espMore Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.espAFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.espSFO - Expanded Diversity.espHebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.espElysiumEstate.espElysiumEstate-HFNoKids.espThunderchild - Dragon Language Words Patch.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espPerfect Legionnaire - Troops Re-equipment.espKynesguard.espCloaks.esp1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.espSoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch-NoGuards.espgarm_jr_no_armor.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espImmersive Weapons.espElementalArrows.espMore Interesting Loot for Skyrim.espGoldenVendors.espERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.espUnique Uniques.espUnique Unique.espAOS2_GDO Patch.espDaedric Dawnbreaker.espDaedricCrossbow.espSMIM-Merged-All.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.espiHUD.espkonahrik_accoutrements_dpe.espgetSnowy.espAdalMatar.espJSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.espPrvtI_HeavyArmory.espLostLongSwords.espSoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeonLighting.espkonahrik_accoutrements.espMiraakFollower.espAgentOfRighteousMight.espxamnant.espBellyachesNewDragonSpecies_FactionlessDragons.espCCO - Permanent Birthsigns.espDovahbit.espDragonbone Weapons.espHvilaHome.espssapbwk.espXavierNecromancerFollower.espUltimateDragons.espDragon Jills.espMidas Magic Expanded.espSoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.espMoss Rocks.espSkyrim Flora Overhaul.espWheelsOfLull.espFalmerLester.espPlush Backpack.espHell Sword.espAV1Dragon_Lords.espThe Paarthurnax Dilemma.espAV1Jills.espThunderchild - Wyrmstooth Compatibility Patch.espBP2Meeko.esplisternersarmorset.espkonahrik_accoutrements_db.espArtifactsOfNocturnal.espisilNarsil.espBrevi_MoonlightTales.espvMYC_MeetYourCharacters.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espIceBladeOfTheMonarch.espdbsword.espMoonAndStar_WATERPlants_compat.espForgottenMagic_Redone.espMy Home Is Your Home.espdbdagger.espdbbownogloss.espSkyFalls + SkyMills Falskaar.espaassassinscraftables.espdbarrows.espKaceAutoloot.espClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-4.espTKDodge.espTamriel Reloaded Trees.espBetter Vampires.espBVandRB_Formlist.espVL No AoE Drain.espPurifier.espADTrueflame.espGizmodian-Obliviweapons.espbalfer.espNicoroshi Creations.espviciousdawnbreaker.espGrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_SFO.espEpisodeParallax.espWATER.espWATER Plants.espWATER - Sir Crabalot Returns.espWATER DB.espWATER DG.espTES5EditMerged.espBashed Patch, 0.espDeadlyCombat.espDeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.espVioLens.espRealisticNeedsandDiseases.espRND_Dawnguard-Patch.espRND_Dragonborn-Patch.espRND_HearthFires-Patch.espRND_USKP-Patch.espthroneroom.espVampirelordroyal.espERSO 03 - Super Mighty Dragons DD.espERSO 03.3 - Super Mighty Dawnguard Dragons.espERSO 03.4 - Super Mighty Dragonborn Dragons.espERSO 04 - Mighty Odahviing.espERSO 04.2 - Mighty Durnehviir.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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