Crashes problem

[SS2394161]

Normally I don't have a lot of issues with crashes however for some reason i'm having a pretty bad one now. Specifically i'm playing and i'm using the underground house player home, the one with the fish tank in it and such and i'm consistently crashing in the armory either just by walking in or when i attempt to click on the container for parts just above the workbench. My instinct tells me its either A one of the two mods I added today that add an E-11 blaster and various storm trooper armors into the game and or another that adds lightsabers (I'm a star wars fan and they're fun to play with shush up :P) or B the fact I removed about 16ish mods from my game today attempting to help with performance, running 127 mods will hurt your performance with any computer even if just a little. That said heres my load order and below that will be the mods I removed.

 

[X] FalloutNV.esm
[X] CaravanPack.esm
[X] ClassicPack.esm
[X] MercenaryPack.esm
[X] TribalPack.esm
[X] DeadMoney.esm
[X] HonestHearts.esm
[X] OldWorldBlues.esm
[X] LonesomeRoad.esm
[X] GunRunnersArsenal.esm
[X] Detect Traps.esm
[X] Advanced Recon Tech.esm
[X] YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm
[X] Military NV Backpacks.esm
[X] More Perks.esm
[X] Project Nevada - Core.esm
[X] Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp
[X] Project Nevada - Equipment.esm
[X] Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp
[X] Sortomatic.esm
[X] Afterschool Special.esm
[X] Caliber.esm
[X] CaliberXgunrunners.esm
[X] CaliberXhonesthearts.esm
[X] SelectFire.esm
[X] Stalker Weapons Pack.esm
[X] oHUD.esm
[X] ForgeBeyond.esm
[X] UHNV.esp
[X] UHNV-Brighter Lighting.esp
[X] UHNV-Honest Hearts.esp
[X] UHNV-Dead Money.esp
[X] UHNV-Lonesome Road.esp
[X] UHNV-OWB.esp
[X] ss2others.esp
[X] DarNifiedUINV.esp
[X] Detect Traps - Traponator 4000.esp
[X] Detect Traps - Perk.esp
[X] Detect Traps - DLC.esp
[X] Armored PA Gloves.esp
[X] Advanced Recon Gear.esp
[X] Advanced Recon Tech.esp
[X] Advanced Recon Tech - Detect Traps.esp
[X] Advanced Recon Gear-Locations Doc Mitchell.esp
[X] keepcompanionperks.esp
[X] Easy Unlocking and Easy Hacking and Guaranteed Pick Pocket.esp
[ ] Military NV Backpacks - Vendor Script Replenish.esp
[X] Military NV Backpacks - BumBagUseSlot1.esp
[X] Glove_be_gone.esp
[X] betsybrahmin.esp
[X] WeightlessAmmo.esp
[X] PortableCampsite.esp
[X] WeaponModsExpanded.esp
[X] WMX-DeadMoney.esp
[X] WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp
[X] WMX-HonestHearts.esp
[X] WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp
[X] WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp
[X] RRP.esp
[X] CASM.esp
[X] MaxCasinoWinnings.esp
[X] Fellout.esp
[X] DriveableMotorCycle.esp
[X] SpecialEveryTwoLevels.esp
[X] More Perks Update.esp
[X] LFox Bottle That Water.esp
[X] LFox Missing Ammo Recipes.esp
[X] LFox Missing Ammo Recipes GRA DLC.esp
[X] LFox Missing Ammo Recipes HH DLC.esp
[X] Burning CampFire.esp
[X] XFO - 4bb - Perks - Two per level.esp
[X] ammoingredientsloot.esp
[X] Improved-ammoingredientsloot.esp
[X] FlashlightNVSE.esp
[X] CourierCacheWSE.esp
[X] NewVegasBounties.esp
[X] NewVegasBountiesII.esp
[X] Steady Recipe.esp
[X] The New Bison Steve Hotel.esp
[X] SWP40 Patch 01.esp
[X] SWP40Pistols.esp
[X] ZLArmaments.esp
[X] ZLArmaments-NoCaliberX.esp
[X] The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
[X] The Weapon Mod Menu.esp
[X] BetterGamePerformanceV4.esp
[X] ASG.esp
[X] AA12.esp
[X] Mail Order Catalogs.esp
[X] Mail Order Catalogs DLC01.esp
[X] Mail Order Catalogs DLC02.esp
[X] Mail Order Catalogs Hardcore.esp
[X] Mail Order Catalogs WMX.esp
[X] Mail Order Catalogs DLC02 WMX.esp
[X] Mail Order Catalogs DLC01 WMX.esp
[X] NV Desert Eagle.esp
[X] Project Nevada - WMX.esp
[X] Project Nevada - Dead Money.esp
[X] Project Nevada - Honest Hearts.esp
[X] Project Nevada - Old World Blues.esp
[X] Project Nevada - Lonesome Road.esp
[X] Project Nevada - Gun Runners' Arsenal.esp
[X] Exciters M4 Pack.esp
[X] ss2weapons.esp
[X] ss2Armors.esp
[X] Zan_AutoPurge_SmartAgro_NV.esp
[X] Stormtroopers Early Release - Armors.esp
[X] LightSaber.esp

 

and the mods I removed are

 

tactical vests - with ammo pouches by krux1015
I got spurs by gopher
JIP companions command & control by jazzisparis
Euclid C finder tweak-no Archimedes II power required version 1 by boomer678
Mbile truck base by tdx73 (3 files)
silenced 9mm pistol by baronToffel
AEVegas Vol5 Gatling Alice by eomanv (3 files)
AK74 by millenia
bushmaster m4a1 by milenia
imi uzi by melenia
marsman carbine with mods by muskau
red glare nuclear capable by Rob

[alienzerox]

noticed that you are running nv bounties 1 & 2 ---> but I don't see the someguyseries.esm in your LO ... you need that.

[SS2394161]

Not sure how I need a file when i've played the game for some time without said file and had absolutely no problems from the mods that were directly the mod's fault. I'd rather not add more files for my game to load when my ultimate goal is reducing the number. If you can explain to me why I "need" it i'll add it but as I said i'm trying to reduce the number of files i'm loading so my game runs better and would like to avoid doing so if possible.

Edited March 27, 2014 by SS2394161

[alienzerox]

??? why don't you just read the page I linked ... It will explain it better than I ever can ............................

[SS2394161]

I did look it over, all i've gotten out of it is that it'll make it so that NVB2 doesn't or can't be started until after i've completed 1 and makes the mods run a little nicer which i don't see how thats possible considering i've never had issues with either. It also doesn't solve my crashing problem and adding it would likely make the problem worse by adding just that much more the game has to load. I don't see any point in adding the file and as far as I now it would require me to download two other mods because of them being required masters meaning i'd have added 3 files to my game just to do effectively nothing. My ultimate goal is not making new vegas bounties work better in the game (especially since it doesn't cause me issues) its figuring out why the heck my game is suddenly crashing so much in a very specific spot.

[WhiskeyRiver2]

I did look it over, all i've gotten out of it is that it'll make it so that NVB2 doesn't or can't be started until after i've completed 1 and makes the mods run a little nicer which i don't see how thats possible considering i've never had issues with either. It also doesn't solve my crashing problem and adding it would likely make the problem worse by adding just that much more the game has to load. I don't see any point in adding the file and as far as I now it would require me to download two other mods because of them being required masters meaning i'd have added 3 files to my game just to do effectively nothing. My ultimate goal is not making new vegas bounties work better in the game (especially since it doesn't cause me issues) its figuring out why the heck my game is suddenly crashing so much in a very specific spot.

First off, Someguy.esm doesn't require -any- of Someguy's mods - it's the other way around. If you're running two or more of Someguy's mods, you -need- Someguy.esm, or things will eventually get f*#@ed up.

 

 

Second, have you tried poking around in FNVEdit to see if there are any obvious mod conflicts? If not, do so. Might be something easily fixable by creating a merged patch or shuffling your LO a bit.

 

 

Third, I see three areas where you could easily cut out about a dozen .esp files while still retaining all their functionality. If you don't mind the plug, I recently published a mod that does the same thing as LFox's Missing Ammo Recipes (pretty much, anyway - granted, the mod I made is a total overhaul of the vanilla system, and right now it only touches Guns ammo). Aside from that, make sure your PN installation is up-to-date - the last time I reinstalled it (yesterday, FWIW), I got an All DLC .esp, not all the individual ones. Same goes for CaliberX and WMX - just make sure you delete all the DLC-related .esps first.

 

 

Fourth, calm down, take a step back, and think. Did the problem only start after you installed those two new mods? If so, odds are it's one of them that's screwing with things (this is where FNVEdit comes in damned handy). When you try to load a save, do you get the "This save relies on content that is no longer available" warning? If so, find out what went wrong there - could be that your game is shitting itself because you deleted some stuff you had in storage while you were in the same cell as your storage container. Been there, it ain't fun. Again, s#*! like that is why a lot of modders recommend getting and learning to use FNVEdit (trust me, FNVEdit is pretty simple to use, so long as you can read and punch keys).

[alienzerox]

WMX-DLCMerged & WMX-POPMerged would save 6 slots in your LO if you used the 2 instead of the 8 loose ones

 

 

did you have any of the weapons that you removed stored in the armory when you decided to remove them?

 

NVB spans across the entire worldspace ... events are triggered by actions and proximity to locales ... the someguyseries.esm is needed to help prevent errors that can break quests .... are any weapons from NVB stored in the armory?

 

edited to add --->you can use the fnvplugin to make merge patches to save slots in your LO

Edited March 27, 2014 by alienzerox

[SS2394161]

I'll look into the WMX stuff later. I might have have one or two of the guns stored away most of them i chose to ignore or just didn't use because of finding better ones which is mostly why i removed them. Like I said i've never had issues involving the quests that were directly the mod's fault any I had were caused by me and were easy enough to fix. I do have all of the NVB 1 weapons stored away but i haven't yet started NVB 2 on the save yet. Thats unfortunately not what a merged patch does, a MP just acts as a patch between plugins helping them run better together to actually consolidate mods you have to renumber a bunch of IDs and throw them all into a new file. I've never done it my self but i've read the FNVEdit training manual on that.

[alienzerox]

fnvplugin will allow you to consolidate plugins into one super mod ---> do what you want.... I'm done with you

[SS2394161]

well no thanks to you i managed to figure out what was causing problems. and yes i know it can but a merged patch does not consolidate mods merging mods and a merged patch are two completely different things.