My character is... stumbling?

[yunakri]

I've never had this problem with previous installs... but I have recently reinstalled Oblivion with several new mods I wanted to try out. So far everything is working perfectly except my character is literally stumbling around.

 

It only happens on occasion... sometimes one fall after another. I haven't been able to figure out what triggers it. Basically, I'll be walking around and all of a sudden my character stops and I see their hands fly in front of them, they crouch for a moment, and stand back up and I can move again. It all happens in about a 2 second period.

 

The mods that I *think* could be causing it are "Stealth Overhaul" and "Deadly Reflex v5".

 

Here is a list of my currently installed mod list (from OBMM, but I use both OBMM and Wrye Bash). All mods highlighted in red are new mods added this reinstall (if just the version number is highlighted, I just updated to a new version).

 

I use OBSE v0017b and sort my load order by hand (no BOSS or FCOM Helper).

 

Oblivion.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Qarls_Harvest.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

FCOM_Convergence.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Ulrim's Horses.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp

Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Loot.esp

FCOM_Francescos.esp

FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp

FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp

ExnemRuneskulls.esp

FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Cobl Tweaks.esp

FCOM_Cobl.esp

Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

FCOM_WarCry.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-WaterFish.esp

FCOM_Convergence.esp

FCOM_RealSwords.esp

FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp

FCOM_LessRats.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPC & Creatures.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Durzog Addon.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp

Martigen's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp

FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp

FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp

FCOM_BobsGuardUnited.esp

FCOM_Archery.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

Book Jackets DLC.esp

GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp

Better Scrolls.esp

VA_BetterGold.esp

Cliff_BetterLetters.esp

ACCCGR SI.esp

ImprovedSoulgems.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

NoMerchantBarterChatter.esp

SilentPersuasion.esp

Beautiful People.esp

Lattamer.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_water_by_Max_Tael.esp

[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp

Qarls_Harvest.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Slof's Horses Base.esp

Slof's Extra Horses.esp

Ulrim's Horses.esp

StealthOverhaul.esp

SupremeMagicka.esp

SM_ShiveringIsles.esp

SM_Scrolls.esp

SM_SigilStone.esp

SM_DLCSpeallTomes.esp

SM_EnchantStaff.esp

SM_COBL.esp

SM_OOO.esp

SM_MMM.esp

Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp

Scribe Supplies.esp

Better Cities .esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Better Cities IC Market.esp

Better Cities IC Market FPS Patch.esp

Better Cities - COBL.esp

Better CIties Full FPS Patch.esp

Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

SM_DeadlyReflex.esp

 

In the meantime, I'll be disabling each of the mods I think could be causing this problem and run around a bit to see if I'm still stumbling...

 

EDIT: I am having trouble recreating the problem. I ran around once with both Stealth Overhaul and Deadly Reflex disabled, once with just Stealth Overhaul disabled, and once with only Deadly Reflex disabled... I couldn't recreate the problem until I enabled both of them again (but even then, my character stumbled only once). I have a feeling the two mods are conflicting with each other... if I can't find the problem specifically I'll probably just disable Deadly Reflex. It doesn't do much for me now anyways (considering how horse combat isn't included in version 5).

[Dracula420]

what do you have your deadly reflex dodge key bound to? is it something close to another well used button that your hitting by accident? because it sounds like the duck you do when you press the dodge button while standing still. try reseting deadly reflex before your unistall anything.

[yunakri]

Yeah, I thought that too. My dodge key is the 'v' key, but I watched my character carefully and she stumbles most often when I'm looking down (not completely at the ground... like halfway between floor and straight up) and am running into an object like a barrel or rock.

 

When I disable Stealth Overhaul (with Deadly Reflex enabled), I cannot recreate this problem. I've done extensive testing and I just can't get her to trip up... same if I have Deadly Reflex disabled w/ Stealth Overhaul enabled, which is the way I am playing now.

 

Thanks for the suggestion; I didn't think about that myself until late yesterday. But alas, that's not the problem either.

[brianb123]

Had same problem no matter what i did ...uninstall V5 of deadly reflex and install V6 seems to work better but no hose combat :( in V6

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I thought that too. My dodge key is the 'v' key, but I watched my character carefully and she stumbles most often when I'm looking down (not completely at the ground... like halfway between floor and straight up) and am running into an object like a barrel or rock.

 

When I disable Stealth Overhaul (with Deadly Reflex enabled), I cannot recreate this problem. I've done extensive testing and I just can't get her to trip up... same if I have Deadly Reflex disabled w/ Stealth Overhaul enabled, which is the way I am playing now.

 

Thanks for the suggestion; I didn't think about that myself until late yesterday. But alas, that's not the problem either.