Crashing, causing problems

[FranzKef]

I recently became a vampire, thanks to Vincente, but I decided I wasn't a big fan of having to feed just to be able to Fast Travel in the sun. >_<

 

Anyway, I went and got the Cure for Vampirism quest and after seeing the Count of Skingrad, I went to Cheydinhal so I could start moving to... er, whoever it is I'm supposed to see for the cure. Some witch or something.

 

Anyway, I started moving south, and a crash occurred. Fairly normal, so I restart Oblivion and start moving again. The crash occurs once more, in the same place. Repeat three more times before I finally realize that 'hey, this isn't normal! D:'.

 

So I restarted it again, and decided to try moving in a different direction. Luckily, it seems I can go in any other direction with no crashes.

Anyway, I tried reloading an earlier save to see if I could go there then. Before I accepted the Cure quest, I still can't go South of Cheydinhal.

 

I guess... there must be something there that the game can't find? I've looked at Wrye Bash, and all my saves are purple, tried changing my mod load order around, I looked in some other topic and someone suggested going to the Testing Room, waiting 24 hours and going back to Cyrodiil. Tried that, unfortunately... things got a whole lot worse.

 

Now it seems that whenever I load a game, no matter how far back it is, I crash as soon as it's finished loading. I see my character and the world for a few seconds then BAM! Crash.

 

I tried starting a new game to see if it happens on that too, but it doesn't. I reeeeeeally don't wanna start another game, considering how much I've done on this one. :\

 

In fact, it'll be the second time I've had to do so, which is really putting me off an otherwise great game. Anyway, here's my mod list, if it'll help -

 

Oblivion.esm

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp

TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

AliveWaters.esp

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

Portable Campsite - Quickstart.esp

Crowded Roads Advanced.esp

PersuasionOverhaul.esp

Thieves Arsenal.esp

Dude Wheres My Horse.esp

OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp

VaultsofCyrodiil.esp

za_bankmod.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

Birthsigns Expanded.esp

Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 CT.esp

Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp

Denock Arrows.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp

bgBalancingEVCore.esp

bgBalancingEVOptionalBetterRedguards.esp

bgBalancingOptionalNPCDiversityKvatchRebuilt, for Wrye Bash.esp

bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

++ROOT=====================.esp

++LIBRARY==================.esp

++LIBRARY+1================.esp

++COSMETIC=================.esp

++CLOTHING=================.esp

++WEAPON===================.esp

++TWEAK-1==================.esp

++TWEAK====================.esp

++TWEAK+1==================.esp

++TWEAK+2==================.esp

++OVERHAUL-1===============.esp

++OVERHAUL=================.esp

++OVERHAUL+1===============.esp

++OVERHAUL+2===============.esp

++OVERHAUL+3===============.esp

++OVERHAUL+4===============.esp

++MISC.====================.esp

++MISC.+1==================.esp

++MAGIC====================.esp

++MAGIC+1==================.esp

++MAGIC+2==================.esp

++NPC======================.esp

++HOME=====================.esp

++HOME+1===================.esp

++PLACE====================.esp

++PLACE+1==================.esp

++QUEST-1==================.esp

++QUEST====================.esp

++QUEST+1==================.esp

++QUEST+2==================.esp

++QUEST+3==================.esp

++NONE=====================.esp

Mercenaries.esp

++LAST-1===================.esp

++LAST=====================.esp

++LAST+1===================.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

 

Oh, I've definitely done something wrong when installing the Race Balancing Project, because all my Redguards have completely black faces, but I can live with that. All I want is to be able to play. ;.;

 

Help would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

[EDIT]

 

I've decided that the new, instant crashes could be because I changed my mod-load order around. No new mods, didn't get rid of any, but I did change the order around. Could that be the case? If it is, I should be able to set it back to the way it was, although I'll still have the South of Cheydinhal problem.

 

[EDIT 2]

 

Nope, reverting to the old load order didn't help. =\

 

[EDIT 3]

 

Found a slightly earlier save that doesn't crash immediately. From what I can tell, if I'm not in the wilderness, no crashes occur. I was indoors and I was fine. I walked around the Imperial City and I was fine. I then fast travelled to Skingrad Castle... crash. Reloaded and travelled to Troll Candle Camp. Crash. However, Arcane Uni and Imperial City work fine. This save pretty close to where I was, so hopefully if I can't fix the other saves, this one can at least be used.

[Maigrets]

Is this your actual current load order?

 

I don't see Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul ESM so your game shouldn't even start without it since you have the esp listed.

 

Any mods that have OOO compatibility should be loaded after Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp otherwise the changes or compatibility for it aren't even going to work.....for example:

 

Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp - this should be loaded after OOO and you should probably even move the Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp higher up the list.

 

Otherwise, I can't see anything that jumps out at me that would cause the issue with Cheydinhal and surrounding areas.

 

I would suggest you download BOSS (Better Oblivion Sorting Software) to help sort your mods. Keep in mind it's not foolproof and some mods, particularly newer ones will need sorting manually.

 

One of the versions of Crowded Roads was known to cause crashes in the wilderness. I'm not asure if it was Crowded Roads Advanced or the normal one. I was using it for a little while but eventually removed it.

Perhaps uncheck that and see if you can travel near Cheydinhal.

[FranzKef]

I checked my OOO data folder again, can't find an .esm.

 

I looked in the folder where I keep all my .rars and mod installers, and OOO has a .exe file. I used it again and it extracted two .esps (lite and full) as well as the add-ons. Still no .esm. D:

 

I've got BOSS, but I'll use it again and then change those things you mentioned. I'll also try disabling Crowded Roads if that doesn't work.

 

Thanks, I'll edit with the results. ^_^

[Maigrets]

I use the exe file as well and the esm should be in your data folder with the esp when you install it. If you have the 1.34 update it also comes with an esm so you must have it somewhere.

 

:biggrin:

 

As an example this is one of my characters load order showing the ESM in bold:

 

Oblivion.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Qarls_Harvest.esm
Ulrim's Horses.esm
[b]Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm[/b]
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm
TamrielTravellers.esm
Armamentarium.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
LoadingScreensAddOn.esp
oc_darker_nights.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
phinix-waterfix.esp
Symphony of Violence.esp
MIS Low Wind.esp
MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp
IWR - Windows Lights Shutters - Optimised.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
Book Jackets DLC.esp
Days&Months.esp
More_Vegetables.esp
OSRCustom.esp
Qarls_Harvest.esp
SummonChest_v2.1.esp
Tc2rPoisonsOfNamira.esp
Living Economy.esp
JOJOeffect.esp
StandingJOJO.esp
Crowded Roads.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
CSR - Fine Iron.esp
CSR - Golden Saint.esp
Darkgreen Glass Armour.esp
Jade Dishes.esp
JQ-Amulets.esp
UFF Blood Ice.esp
tona_simple_dress-armor.esp
tona_simple_dress-armor_ver3.esp
Gloria Armor.esp
Slof's Horses Base.esp
Slof's Extra Horses.esp
LadyDeadlock_LoveYourHorse.esp
ExnemRuneskulls.esp
Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp
ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp
Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - No Uberhulks.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Durzog Addon.esp
TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp
TamrielTravellers4MMM.esp
Travellers4MMMHostileFactions.esp
TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp
ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp
TamrielTravellersHorseTextures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO+FCOM.esp
LoadingScreens-OOO.esp
Qarls_Harvest addon_MMM.esp
OOO-No_Clutter_Ownership.esp
ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp
OOO-WaterFish.esp
ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
The Ayleid Steps.esp
Ulrim's Horses.esp
road+bridges.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
JQ-PotionReplacer.esp
RemoveTrainerBounds.esp
Slof's Dogs.esp
Quest Award Leveller.esp
RealisticForceMedium.esp
RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp
MidasSpells.esp
Midas OscuroGems.esp
Mighty Magick - Settings.esp
Mighty Magick - Spells and Creatures.esp
Mighty Magick - Shivering Isles.esp
Mighty Magick - Skills.esp
MidasSpells_MM.esp
EnchantRegen ArcaneBank.esp
Lem - Bounty Reduction Over Gametime.esp
No psychic guards v1.2.esp
Realistic Arrow Flight.esp
KseAliLeveling.esp
actors_in_charge.esp
Auto Potion.esp
BadderFireFX.esp
BadderShockFX.esp
MGothic Breton Race.esp
BJsGuildPortals1.1.esp
Cosmetic Compilation Merge.esp
AliveWaters_nofish.esp
REBetterLCB.esp
ICshack_OG.esp
Ayleid Sanctuary.esp
REBetterLHF1.1.esp
ForecastersWill.esp
Improved Willpower.esp
SexyWitchPoses.esp
D2k-DeadlyPoison.esp
green market district.esp
BlueAndWhitePorcelain - Full.esp
adalyn_home2.0.esp
talon.esp
Flaming Fearblade.esp
Maigret's Vampire Bats.esp
Josef Grey's Natural Starlight.esp
CTAddPose_Le02.esp
Underworld Armor.esp
Maple Leaf Cottage.esp
Maigrets House Cats.esp
DesuChan's Demon Huntress.esp
EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
Armamentium female.esp
EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp
Satu Ra - Lord of Beasts.esp
Sher Ja Lion Companion.esp
My Dog Rosie.esp
Bashed Patch, Siouxie.esp

[bben46]

Here is a link to Bben's Crash Help

http://www.tesnexus.com/articles/article.php?id=298.

[FranzKef]

T_T Looked again, it's definitely not there. I've tried using the .exe again, twice, and neither time an .esm came out. Only the Full/Lite .esp files, and the addons.

 

Anyway, I used BOSS (which moved the OOO addons to after OOO) and I disabled Crowded Roads, but... same ol' same ol'. I'm still crashing every time I get outside of a city.

 

@BB - I've tried all of that, but I'm still experiencing crashes every time I'm out of a city. Thanks anyway. D: