scoobnut Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) I'm relatively new to Skyrim and loving it but recently found some of my textures are missing. So far I have some of my chests with a horrid purple plastic look, bench seats and alter table surfaces. Reading up on the problem I found it could be... lack of memory, graphics card or a mod. Before I start messing around with something I really no little about I thought I would ask here in case anyone could help. I have...I5-4670K @3.40GHz800 GB of ramNvidia Geforce GTX 760 OC - 2GB My mods...SkyUIRealvision ENBUnofficial skyrim patchUnofficial Dawnguard patchUnofficial Hearthfire patchUnofficial Dragonborn patchSkyrim HD textures Apachihair female-v-1-2Race compatibility.Climates of tamriel (including DLC)EC clothes Imperial robes Lady KD circlets Leather armours Convenient horse Enhanced lights (including DLC)CoT weather patchCoT weather patch_DBCoT weather patch _ snow-40CoT weather patch _NL2SGEybrowsThe eyes of beautyBVFE _ Serenacharacter making extenderEnhanced character editRealistic water 2Realistic water 2 - wavesRealistic water 2 - waves - DawnguardRealistic water 2 - LegendaryBashed patch, 0Skyfalls + skymills + DG + DBSkyfalls Dragonborn small waterfallsWater colour for ENB _ RWTCandrians Balanced MagicCinematic fireDust effects V1.0Young male face texture by Fuse00EotW mage robes of skyrim + DLCBetter hands Mesh for UNPDimonized UNP female bodyDimonized UNP female DIMfaceHigh resolution scarsHorizon of dreamsAOF Detailed mountiansI wash- New skin for for skyrim ver 93Natural grass texture floorPorcelain vampire skin for CBBE UNP...UNP texture blenderSG textures renewalWeapon Retwxture project - WRPMagic runes HD full packHigh res legible road signsBetter vampire Fangs and eyesTrees HD- skyrim veriation - LOWEldrids Armopur mash up UNPUNP Dawnguard armours for base bodyEnhanced lightes + DLCVivid landscapes Enhanced lights and FX compatability patchVivid landscape Dungeons and RuinsaMidianborn Caves and Mines 1kDetailed chests Texture replacersShow race Menu Precache killer 1-3 I used a mixture of 2K and 1K so as not to stress my PC. All were installed in correct order and are in the correct load order according to BOSS. Dirty edits cleaned. I had steam verify which replaced five files but this never fixed the texture problem. My game is also a new re-install (following instructions)While the missing texture don't affect the gameplay it is annoying and a fix would be nice if possible, hopefully without re-installing my game. I think that's it...I hope the info I gave is what you need and helpful.Thank you. Edited April 6, 2014 by scoobnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Garon Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) I'm not familiar with all your mods, but many texture replacers install "loose" files (individual dds texture files instead of bsa files). Different mod managers *cough* MO *cough* also install (unpack) bsa files. There is a chicken and egg issue which crops up with loose files; they need to be installed (not sorted by BOSS, INSTALLED by the mod manager) in the correct order because they may over-write loose texture files installed before them. Many texture replacers don't have an esp and can't be sorted by BOSS, so determining the correct installation order requires info from the mod authors, educated guesses, or a mod manager that identifies file conflicts (Wrye BASH). Mods with bsa files simply replace, they don't over-write, textures loaded before them and usually come with an esp to, at least, set the bsa load order. But, any existing loose files will override any bsa resource. One bad result of all this is a potential texture mis-match (purple), especially if any meshes were also changed by mods. I notice that you have a chest texture replacement mod. I would just un-install it, re-install it to restore it's textures as the most recently added and then see if your issue clears up. What mod manager do you use? Did you install ALL your mods with the mod manager, or did you do some manual installs? BTW, the only mod lists that really help are BOSS/LOOT logs; they show the actual order that mods are loaded and that order is the information we need in order to help. Edited April 6, 2014 by Lord Garon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobnut Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 Hi and thank you for your help.The chest replacer texture was added last night in the hopes it would fix the problem (it didn't).I use NMM to install and check the modders info in case the mod needs to go somewhere else than what BOSS says and had been working until I re-installed. Question, boot/loot logs, where do I find them. Sorry about my list, so much for being helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Garon Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 BOSS logs - the easy way: On the desktop, goto Start-->All Programs-->BOSS. Click BOSS GUI, not BOSS. On the little BOSS GUI window, go to the Output Options-->Output Format drop-down and select Plain Text. Make sure that "Show BOSS log on completion" is ticked. Click "Run BOSS" and now a Notepad window will open with the BOSS log in it. You can copy all that and post it, preferably in Spoiler tags (in the post editor window, click the third icon on top (Special BBCode) and select Spoiler from the drop-down. Just paste your logs into the text area of the little window that opens.) Purple textures: There's a load order or data conflict, especially if your mod setup worked before. In fact, I might guess that the re-install was done without removing your old "textures" and "meshes" directories from Skyrim\Data. Those directories contain your "loose" files. Steam won't mess with files/directories it doesn't actually install, so it would have left your old textures and meshes directories alone, unless you deleted them yourself. I would try this next: 1. Find a bad chest in-game and make a Save there. Exit.2. Run BOSS and keep the Notepad window up.3. From NMM, disable and un-install all texture mods that aren't body or character related (Dust Effects, Amidian Caves, Skyrim HD textures, Detailed Chests, etc.)4. Fire up Skyrim and see what the chest looks like.5. If its okay, there's a load order problem or data conflict with the mods you uninstalled. I would re-install them in the order they're listed in the BOSS log you kept open from step 2, or the order you discovered from the mod authors if they're not in BOSS, ONE at a time. I would install Skyrim HD first, in any case. Go back in-game and check the chest. If okay, keep re-installing mods one-at-a-time and checking.6. If the chest is still broken in step 4, I would do a complete mod un-install. Use NMM to uninstall everything. Then go to your Skyrim\Data folder and delete the textures and meshes folders. Fire up Skyrim (it will complain about a lot of stuff missing, but should load. Don't save while testing.) and check the chest. If its still bad, we have bigger problems. If its good, start installing mods again, in the BOSS or your discovered order, a few at a time, then check in-game. Keep going until everything is back in, or the chest breaks. Pain in the arse, I know, but its a brute force process that's worked for me many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobnut Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 Before re-installing I deleted the entire skyrim folder from Steam/ SteamApps/ Common and all files from My Documents keeping my saves listed in another folder elsewhere. I used to play The Sims and it was the same way to do a re-install (don't laugh). Will try what you suggested and let you know. Below is what you asked for, thank you again for your help. BOSSVersion 2.2.0======================================Summary======================================Plugin Type CountRecognised (or sorted by user rules) 43Unrecognised 4Inactive 0All 47Plugin Message Type CountWarning 0Error 0All 7* Masterlist updated; at revision: 3092018fd.* No change in recognised plugin list since last run.* Note: Latest BOSS thread ("http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1485022-relz-boss-for-skyrim/")* Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date.======================================User Rules======================================Rule Applied Details (if applicable)Sort "Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp" after "Update.esm" ✓Sort "Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp" after "Dawnguard.esm" ✓Sort "Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp" after "HearthFires.esm" ✓Sort "Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp" after "Dragonborn.esm" ✓======================================SKSE Plugins======================================SKSE Version: 0.1.6.16CFM_extensions.dllCharacterMakingExtender_plugin.dllshowRaceMenu_preCacheKiller.dll======================================Recognised Plugins======================================These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Dawnguard.esm Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Version 2.0.2 Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Version 2.0.2 ActiveDragonborn.esm ActiveUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Version 2.0.2 Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}ApachiiHairFemales.esm Version 1.2 ActiveRaceCompatibility.esm Version 1.60a ActiveClimatesOfTamriel.esm Version 3.1 ActiveHighResTexturePack01.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack02.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack03.esp ActiveSkyUI.esp Version 4.1 ActiveEC Clothes.esp Activeimperialrobes.esp ActiveLadyKdCirclets.esp ActiveLeather Armors.esp ActiveConvenient Horses.esp Version 14950 Active* Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ActiveELFX - Dawnguard.esp ActiveELFX - Dragonborn.esp ActiveCinematicFireFX.esp ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp Version 3.1 ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp Version 3.1 ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Version 3.1- Active* Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhaulClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp Version 3.1 ActiveCoT-WeatherPatch.esp ActiveCoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp ActiveCoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp ActiveCoT-WeatherPatch_NL2.esp ActiveSGEyebrows.esp ActiveTheEyesOfBeauty.esp Version 9 ActiveBVFE_Serana.esp ActiveCharacterMakingExtender.esp ActiveEnhancedCharacterEdit.esp ActiveRealisticWaterTwo.esp Version 1.11 ActiveRealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp ActiveRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp ActiveRealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp ActiveBashed Patch, 0.esp Active======================================Unrecognised Plugins======================================The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed.SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp Version 3.0.esp ActiveSkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp ActiveWatercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp ActiveCandrian's Balanced Magic.esp Version 1.05 Active Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobnut Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 Found it! Vivid landscape dungeons and ruins was the culprit. Following your instructions I removed all texture mods then added them one by one. When the purple chest reappeared I removed the last mod added (Vivid landscape), the purple vanished. Installed the mod again and the purple chest came back so it was definitely that. I also found I had Bethesda's HD packs which had installed automatically. I disabled them as I use Skyrim HD which I'm happy with, not sure if that was okay to do but saw no point in having to packs installed. Thank you for your help.Off to play now with no purple chests...yippee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Garon Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) DOH! You posted while I was writing. You might try the Vivid Landscape mod page and see if the author knows about, or has a fix for it. EDIT: Problem resolved If your current mods include ONLY what's listed above (no manual installs), that narrows things down as I have many of them running right now without the chest texture issue. (I did jump from Unofficial patches 2.0 to 2.0.3, but I haven't heard of your issue on the 2.0.2 versions.) Try disabling the HiResTexturePacks (just un-select their esp files, you don't have to un-install them cause they're bsa based and won't load if the associated esp is disabled). If the chest comes back, enable one at a time and see which one is causing the problem. Also, I didn't know you had BASH. If you merged any mods into the Bashed Patch (and a lot of texture mods will merge), they will still be in the patch even if you disable the original mod in NMM. Disable the Bashed Patch to see if a merged texture mod is hanging around in there. Future Info: BASH can do a lot in helping to find mod conflicts. If you add your mod archives to the "Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim Mods\Bash Installers" folder, you can look at the mods on the Installers tab of Bash. If you sort them to your desired installation order on the Installers tab (just drag them around) and highlight a mod, Bash will show you any loose file conflicts in your install order. That is, it will show which mods are trying to change the same loose files. If we suspect a mod is changing loose chest texture files, BASH will tell us which mod is doing it. Edited April 7, 2014 by Lord Garon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobnut Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 I only recently added BASH, I'm still reading up on the program so haven't really done much with it apart from open and look to get familiar with it, merging anything is not for me until I know what I'm doing. Someone else posted on the download page that they too had the same problem, from what I understand the Smim folder was needed from optional downloads. No idea what Smim is and if it says optional I tend to ignore it unless otherwise stated in main description. I have left the mod out for now as I am happy enough without it. Maybe in the future I will re download, this time with the Smim files. Thanks again for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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