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I did this quest before a number of times before installing the Legendary edition, and all went smoothly, but I've got a whole host of problems with this quest now. The only difference is that it's the first time, playing on the Dawnguard side, that I've asked Serana to make me a vampire in order to go into the Soul Cairn.

 

I am running all Unofficial Patches.

 

 

Firstly, when I got to Valerica she wouldn't come over and speak to me. I tried waiting an hour, twenty-four hours, reloading the save, going through the barrier and hitting her down to her knees, moving Serana over to her, and moving her over to Serana, but I couldn't get her into a conversational mood at all. Eventually, I fixed this by using the console command setstage dlc1vq05 20, bumping me forward to the "speak to Valerica" stage. For some reason it hadn't triggered, or if it did then not properly.

 

Next, I went and killed all three Keepers and ran back. This time Valerica still wouldn't chat, but in addition the barrier hadn't come down and she was still unreachable. I used moveto player on Valerica, and then her dialogue triggered and I was able to get the "follow Valerica" objective. However, the barrier still wasn't down. I looked this up online and while I couldn't find any information on the barrier glitch, other people said that if Valerica doesn't lead you then once you got to the Boneyard, the quest should progress normally. So I used tcl to get through the barrier, unlock on the door, and went into the Boneyard where Serana and Valerica spawned next to me. I then got the "kill Durnehviir" objective.

 

Now I went to fight Durnehviir, and it was all progressing normally until he reached 0 health. Instead of dying, his health bar jumped back up to full. I tried killing him with a different weapon just in case, but he miraculously recovered every time his health bar was empty and started attacking again. I can't kill him at all! Setting the quest to the next stage with the console doesn't fix it, as he's still attacking me. Using the console command killall does nothing. It's as if he's been marked as essential.

 

I recognise that one bug leads to another-- and that using the console to debug, especially when it comes to quests, can cause further bugs to happen-- but there's no way for me to get around this. I've tried loading from earlier saves and I still run into the first bug, Valerica won't talk.

 

I'm not using any mods that change Serana, Valerica, or the Soul Cairn. There are a couple of mod issues I considered:

 

  • I have Vampires Rebalanced installed. I don't see any particular reason why the changes this mod makes, which are generally pretty minor, should break the quest, and it's never given me any other problems, but it's worth noting since I've never played the quest option where Serana turns me.
  • The weapons with which I'm trying to kill Durnehviir are modded (the bow from Bound Weapons Redux and Dawnbreaker from Daedric Dawnbreaker) but, like VR, have never caused me problems. Additionally, seeing as the entire quest so far has been bugged to Oblivion and I've had to use the console to keep it moving, not being able to kill Durnehviir isn't exactly a glitch coming out of the blue.
  • I set the timescale to 4 with every new character I make as I find 20 a bit too fast, especially when using Realistic Needs and Diseases. I know that setting the timescale to too low a value can cause problems with quest triggers, but I did the same thing with characters where this quest went as smoothly as a baby's bottom. I never set it below 4, either-- internet sources generally agree that that's the minimum safe value.
  • Since installing Dragonborn, I've had problems absorbing Murmilnir's soul, so Durnehviir's immortality is not the only dragon-related problem I've encountered.

 

Has anyone else had these glitches, and if so, is there anything you can do about it?

 

 

 

Here's my load order, for the sake of interest:

 

 

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
ApachiiHair.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
Creepy Dungeons.esp
CrossbowsRevamped.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
MoreChildrenItem.esp
SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp
Traps Make Noise.esp
BlackSacramentArmor.esp
BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp
bound weapons redux.esp
Cloaks.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
LeatherBackpackBlack.esp
LeatherBackpackBrown.esp
LeatherBackpackDarkBrown.esp
LeatherBackpack.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp
MaceofMolagBalEnhanced.esp
NobleFemaleClothes.esp
Skyrim Scaling Stopper - Misc Edits - Dawnguard.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
CastleVolkiharImmersive.esp
gonkishvampdens.esp
Shadowmarks for Player Homes.esp
Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
nighteye.esp
AdaptiveNightEye.esp
Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
Auriel's Bow Reloaded.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Headtracking.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
xvisionchildren.esp
xvisionchildren - hearthfire.esp
WinterholdDecay.esp
RealisticRoomRental-Basic.esp
3DNPC.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
FootstepsSoundsOverhaul.esp
RealisticCarryWeight.esp
Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
BetterMagic_FULL.esp
Realistic crime report radius.esp
RespectTheJarls.esp
Crimson Tide - Blood.esp
Skyrim Scaling Stopper.esp
Sit Anywhere.esp
Scarified Dunmer.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
RND_USKP-Patch.esp
FriendlyBrynjolf.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp
Purewaters.esp
RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp
Blacksmithforge water fix Vanilla.esp
Blacksmithforge water fix DG.esp
Blacksmithforge water fix DB.esp
Skyrim Scaling Stopper - Misc Edits - Non-Dawnguard.esp
CommonClothes.esp
SpeechTree.esp
Better Archery 1.0.esp
BosmerArmorMATY743.esp
alva.esp
Extended Encounters.esp
Skyrim+ALL DLC.esp
HarvestOverhaul.esp
HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp
HarvestOverhaulCreatures_RND_Animal_Loot_All_DLC.esp
humans drop human parts.esp
Provincial Courier Service.esp
KillThemGenerals.esp
nosalt.esp
Dunmerized Grey Quarter.esp
Reanimate FX.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp
AlternateBreezehomePurchase.esp
Advanced Alteration - Kinetics.esp
Sleep Anywhere.esp
Female Orc Walk Only.esp
orc-female-idle-fix.esp
GrammaticalLoading.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
Binocular Vision Extra.esp
Binocular Vision Game Settings 135.esp
VRMain.esp
VRPatch.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
Daedric Dawnbreaker.esp
MagicIsLight.esp

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