spammster Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Is it just me, or is it a bit strange, that no matter where you go and people obviously live for quite some time, nobody ever bothered to clean that place up ? look around in megaton, there's dirt everywhere inside the house, while at the same time a broom/mop etc. is in the dirt pile as well. one would assume that even in a post apocalyptic world people would clean up their houses and throw the clutter thats lying around at least in a closet etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagaoka Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I've always wondered about that myself. Perhaps after living so long in a post apocalyptic world they've forgotten what "clean" means? They're used to it. Paper and tin cans are natural ground formations. Yeah.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaysus Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 they probably learned from the past times overtidiness and the resulting fatal allergies, to counter this harmful threat they developed ways to keep just enough litter around to create a warm atmosphere aswell as a natural allergy resistance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdtryguy Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 They're probably really just all overwhelmed and depressed by the sheer magnitude of such a proposition, and simply can't bring themselves to try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecallred Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I felt the same way so I'm using a mod that gets rid of the clutter. I don't miss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csb Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I guess no one from Merry Maids or other maid services survived the holocaust :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spammster Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 though this does kinda remind me of Fallout 2 (played 1&2 again a couple days ago) and in Vault City a lot of the residents are like:"Why is it so clean here?" and i think in general replaying the old games was a bad idea, cause now I'm all confused, a lot of the stuff that happens in 1 & 2 happens pretty much the same way in 3. and lets not go into how even in Fallout 1 supermutants and humans could work together and in F2 ghouls, humans and sups could all live happily ever after in the same town as neighbours while you're also told, that nearly all supermutants have been killed, now apperantly Vault-Tec is responsible for supermutants and no longer the master. srsly I'm confused like f.... F3 is supposed to play after the first 2 right ? not somewhere in the middle or an alternative timeline ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theLeeHarvey Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Fallout 3 chronologically takes place after Fallout 1&2. The reason Super Mutants are present in such far removed areas is because of the existence of multiple FEV test groups run by the pre-war military and Vault-tec in separate parts of the country. Pre-war, the military under the orders of the shadow government (which became the Enclave), conducted their own experiments with FEV in attempt to create a cure for the "New Plague" independent from the experiments meant to be conducted by Vault-tec, though the experiments by Vault-tec were also ordered by the pre-war shadow government (though for a different purpose). On the west coast after the war, Richard Grey led his expedition to Mariposa and fell into the vat of FEV to become "The Master". He eventually started creating Super Mutants from the humans he could capture or entice. These were the first Meta Humans. After "The Master" was destroyed and the Enclave took over Mariposa, the FEV there started causing mutations among the troops, so the Enclave abandoned Mariposa as the second generation of Super Mutants began to arise. When the Enclave left they sealed the base and inside the Super Mutants formed their own community. On the east coast the Super Mutants were formed as a result of the Evolutionary Experimentation Program assigned to Vault 87 by Vault-tec. These Super Mutants are similar but unique because the strain of FEV used to create them was different. They tend to be less intelligent though they are larger and stronger and get more so the older they get. Once Vault 87 was taken over by the Super Mutants at some point post-war they were forced to continue creating more of themselves through capturing people and "dipping" them, since as with the west coast meta humans, Super Mutants in the Capital Wasteland are sterile. http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Super_mutants And as for the main question of this thread, "Are the wastelanders pigs?" I don't know, what do you think?http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/theLeeHarvey/Fallout32009-10-2322-45-31-45.jpgYou'll find that a lot of NPC's use this sweeping idle animation. Granted it doesn't effect the world around them, but it's pretty plain to me that they are not all pigs, just the raiders ;). Besides, how plain and boring would the game look if there wasn't any clutter and junk laying around. I would expect there to be a lot of crap on the ground, even in populated places, 200 years after civilization as we know it ceased to exist. People living in such a harsh world would have more important things to worry about than scraps of paper and crumbling masonry. Things like not becoming a mid-day snack for a hungry Yao-Guai or being captured and dipped by a Super Mutant for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csb Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Not to mention the inclination of certain Wasteland wanders to meddle and turn your holy relic bomb into a real mushroom cloud :D That's what you call Extreme Cleaning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spammster Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 Not to mention the inclination of certain Wasteland wanders to meddle and turn your holy relic bomb into a real mushroom cloud :D That's what you call Extreme Cleaning! thats what you call Thermal cleaning :D you sure they actually sweep, I have never seen anyone of em clean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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