WhiteCat555 Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 I was under the impression that it was legal, provided that the game the assets were sourced from is required to play (e.g., the assets are not offered for download with the mod). Kind of like how you're not able to release DLC content in a mod without including those DLCs as masters.Only legal if the assets are all from the same game and its DLCs. You can't exactly load Skyrim in the load order for FNV. Didn't the NCR ride horses in "All Roads" the comic that was made to hype the release of Fallout New Vegas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteCat555 Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 Bummer guys, looks like that horse mod guy can't upload the mod becuse it uses meshes from oblivion. I sent him a message asking him to upload it elswere or upload it without the mesh and have users extract the mesh from an oblivion BSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 That is the 'proof of concept' (Experimental) mod I was referring to. To the best of my current knowledge, nothing else came out of it. That experimental video came out over 2 years ago. And I haven't seen anything on it since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteCat555 Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 Well based on his other YouTube videos it's practically looks perfected the reason its not on the Nexus is because he's using files that were taken directly out of oblivion which is apparently against the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangman4ever Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I was under the impression that it was legal, provided that the game the assets were sourced from is required to play (e.g., the assets are not offered for download with the mod). Kind of like how you're not able to release DLC content in a mod without including those DLCs as masters.Only legal if the assets are all from the same game and its DLCs. You can't exactly load Skyrim in the load order for FNV. Didn't the NCR ride horses in "All Roads" the comic that was made to hype the release of Fallout New Vegas? Yes but it was also mentioned by Chris Avellone that horses did not survive:http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Horse#cite_note-6 The above also explains the possible reasons why horses showed up in Chance's flashback. Well based on his other YouTube videos it's practically looks perfected the reason its not on the Nexus is because he's using files that were taken directly out of oblivion which is apparently against the rules.It is against the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogogamer Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I was under the impression that it was legal, provided that the game the assets were sourced from is required to play (e.g., the assets are not offered for download with the mod). Kind of like how you're not able to release DLC content in a mod without including those DLCs as masters.Only legal if the assets are all from the same game and its DLCs. You can't exactly load Skyrim in the load order for FNV. Didn't the NCR ride horses in "All Roads" the comic that was made to hype the release of Fallout New Vegas? Yes but it was also mentioned by Chris Avellone that horses did not survive:http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Horse#cite_note-6 The above also explains the possible reasons why horses showed up in Chance's flashback. Well based on his other YouTube videos it's practically looks perfected the reason its not on the Nexus is because he's using files that were taken directly out of oblivion which is apparently against the rules.'s tIt is against the rules. Yeah, totally didn't survive, I guess that's why they directly appeared in the comic... It is against the rules. *Slow clap* Congratulations, you just repeated what he said..... Conformations aside, I too would be interested in a horse mod, HUGE problem is modeling without using meshes from other games, That proof of concept does however look intresting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangman4ever Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I was under the impression that it was legal, provided that the game the assets were sourced from is required to play (e.g., the assets are not offered for download with the mod). Kind of like how you're not able to release DLC content in a mod without including those DLCs as masters.Only legal if the assets are all from the same game and its DLCs. You can't exactly load Skyrim in the load order for FNV. Didn't the NCR ride horses in "All Roads" the comic that was made to hype the release of Fallout New Vegas? Yes but it was also mentioned by Chris Avellone that horses did not survive:http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Horse#cite_note-6 The above also explains the possible reasons why horses showed up in Chance's flashback. Well based on his other YouTube videos it's practically looks perfected the reason its not on the Nexus is because he's using files that were taken directly out of oblivion which is apparently against the rules.'s tIt is against the rules. Yeah, totally didn't survive, I guess that's why they directly appeared in the comic... It is against the rules. *Slow clap* Congratulations, you just repeated what he said..... Conformations aside, I too would be interested in a horse mod, HUGE problem is modeling without using meshes from other games, That proof of concept does however look intresting No he said "apparently" which, to me, sounded like he wasn't quiet sure about the legality of it. As for the horse,there were a few other inconsistencies between the comic and the game itself. So the comic itself isn't 100% canon. Either way, I don't really care about the horse mod not being canon or non-canon since it's not coming to FNV. Well in widespread release anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogogamer Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I was under the impression that it was legal, provided that the game the assets were sourced from is required to play (e.g., the assets are not offered for download with the mod). Kind of like how you're not able to release DLC content in a mod without including those DLCs as masters.Only legal if the assets are all from the same game and its DLCs. You can't exactly load Skyrim in the load order for FNV. Didn't the NCR ride horses in "All Roads" the comic that was made to hype the release of Fallout New Vegas? Yes but it was also mentioned by Chris Avellone that horses did not survive:http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Horse#cite_note-6 The above also explains the possible reasons why horses showed up in Chance's flashback. Well based on his other YouTube videos it's practically looks perfected the reason its not on the Nexus is because he's using files that were taken directly out of oblivion which is apparently against the rules.'s tIt is against the rules. Yeah, totally didn't survive, I guess that's why they directly appeared in the comic... It is against the rules. *Slow clap* Congratulations, you just repeated what he said..... Conformations aside, I too would be interested in a horse mod, HUGE problem is modeling without using meshes from other games, That proof of concept does however look intresting No he said "apparently" which, to me, sounded like he wasn't quiet sure about the legality of it. As for the horse,there were a few other inconsistencies between the comic and the game itself. So the comic itself isn't 100% canon. Either way, I don't really care about the horse mod not being canon or non-canon since it's not coming to FNV. Well in widespread release anyway. Apparently means the person is sure, no? We're talking about horses and not major story elements, It is likely cannon So why try to discourage people? If not, whatever, but don't hassle people over liking the idea, as I said in another thread. no every mod needs to be lore friendly, if you don't like it, just find mods you like rather than hounding those who do enjoy these types of mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarchUntoTorment Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 @Anyone who knows the specific rules of New Vegas Nexus - Are mods using resources from other games permissible if the user of the mod needs to extract the meshes from Oblivion personally? It'd be hell to install, naturally, but it violates no copyright laws that I am aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Demanding that horses only be allowed if and only if they are 'cannon' is absurd. If you don't like the 'cannon' change it. :tongue:Historically, cannon refers to church dogma - and that's the kind of stuff I see with the 'cannon' people in the game - dogma or religious ruling that something should not be allowed because of some reason that they demand must be so. We have a mod for cars - why not horses? Are working cars 'cannon'? If so why are cars not able to be used in the vanilla game? To me the problem is technical and not some 'cannon' or 'lore' that is imaginary anyway. If you insist on following 'cannon' there are ways to get around it if you can find a way to get horses to work in the game. Horses may not be 'known' to have survived, but maybe they did and (almost) no one knew about them. A little creative writing could have a small herd survive in an out of the way location such as an inaccessible side canyon where they may or may not have been changed by the radiation - Then discovered by someone - possibly a Khan clan? and tamed for riding. The clan could be keeping most of the horses to themselves through not allowing any except gelded horses out of their hidden canyon. This would limit the horses to just a few in the wastelands and cut down on the problems that a lot of horses could cause. Or, another scenario - they survived in the far South - say on the Pampas of Argentina, and a man has brought a herd north where he is selling them for a lot of caps or possibly trading for weapons to use for his revolution. One horse cost 50 Chinese assault rifles plus 1000 ammunition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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