Strongest Daedric prince.

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Hey all! i was wondering who (in your opinion) is the strongest daedric prince at the time of skyrims events. Jyggalag IS included in this list and is a separate entity from sheogorath because: shivering isle spoilers following

At the the end of the shivering isles, you become sheogorath and defeat Jyggalag, ending the greymarch and allowing him to remain as himself and not turn back into sheogorath. the hero from oblivion becomes sheogorath and is the sheogorath you meet in skyrim, voice actor confirmed this so no saying things like "OMG you so dumb oblivion guy no sheogorath why you no smart!?!?!" but i digress

list them from strongest to weakest! There are 17 daedric princes in all.

[Lachdonin]

The power of the Daedric Princes is constantly in flux. Jyggalag rose to prominence during the creation of Mundus because the Aedra were imposing more and more Order on the universe, empowering his own sphere of influence. It's also hard to judge absolute power of entities which are not only eternal, but totally outside the mortal concepts of power...

 

At the time of Skyrim, however, i'd break it down more or less like;

 

Nocturnal (she is the oldest Daedra, and all others bow to her influence)

Sheogorath

Molag Bal

Azura

Mehrunes Dagon

Boethia

Hermaeus Mora

Malacath

Mephala

Meridia

Vaermina

Namira

Peyrite

Sanguine

Hercine

Clavicus Vile

Jyggalag (we're not even sure if he's recovered enough to form his own realm yet)

 

IF Camoran is right, and Lorkhan is a Daedra, he's be at the top of this list though.

Edited April 20, 2014 by Lachdonin

[chanchan05]

I'm pretty sure that Peyrite is weaker than either Sanguine, Hircine or Clavicus Vile, he can't even manifest in Nirn without a ritual, unlike those three who just walks around the plane with no issues. We could possibly gauge their power by looking at how much they influence Skyrim. IMO it's more:

 

Nocturnal - Daughter of Sithis FTW. There's a freaking door to her realm in Skyrim, plus her influence affects every little thing done in the world, even if it is subte.

 

Sheogorath - He defeated Jyggalag, who was touted as one of the most powerful daedra. Unless any evidence to say otherwise, we'll put him here. Plus the fact he can manifest himself and the DB in the mind of a man dead thousands of years ago in Skyrim.... A mad god with powers over time and space.

 

Sanguine - Can manifest in Skyrim himself, albeit disguised as a mortal. Has power to take multiple humans in his realm too. I think he's quite a powerful daedra, just party crazy though.

 

Clavicus Vile - With just half his power he can manifest in Skyrim fully as an immortal annoying noisy dog Not even other Daedra can do that at full power.

 

Hircine - Lord of the Hunt. The fact that werewolves supposedly abound in Skyrim, there's also a lot of hunters, plus the fact that the Companions and Silver Hand exist hunting each other, quite possible empowers his realm. Heck he runs around the forests of Falkreath himself every now and then.

 

Hermaeus Mora - So many stuff about him in game and manifests at will, but seems to have few followers.

 

Boethiah - We know she's more powerful than Malacath, and her supporters abound in Skyrim for some reason, empowering her realm. However weaker than the ones above her because while she can influence Nirn, she needs a Nirn body to possess in order to manifest.

 

Mehrunes Dagon - Has no power to manifest in the world even after his artifact is restored. Even then can only send dremora through, and not manifest a physical presence even through possession.

 

Malacath - Cursed an ENTIRE Orc tribe to misery, with his shrine desecrated and no active worshippers at that place too. Can't manifest physically though.

 

Vaermina - The mere presence of her artifact affects an entire freaking town a mile away speaks of how much her presence in Skyrim is felt.

 

Azura - her artifact is desecrated, so her influence which flows through that should be weakened (her power should be returned after her quest though, but doesn't do much to influence Nirn so her level is suspect). However despite that, she was still able to curse Malyn Varen and make life miserable for him and supporters, and guided you to her shrine.

 

Meridia - she can talk to you through her beacon anywhere in Skyrim, thereby able to manifest a physical form in Nirn albeit very limited. However has no power to influence events to punish her temple's desecration. Same level possibly as Azura.

 

Mephala - Her influence is limited by a freaking door. But considering that the room is magically sealed, we can say that perhaps her influence level is somewhere near Meridia's.

 

Molag Bal - His influence is confined to locking doors in a house above his shrine. :)

 

Namira - this one is suspect. It's like she can't do much stuff to influence Skyrim other than watch her worshippers eat

 

Peryite - You can't even talk to him unless you perform a smoke signal thiny, thus very limited influence.

 

Jygallag - unsure how much he has recovered

[Lachdonin]

You're making a lot of assumptions on what a Daedra CAN do, as opposed to what they're WILLING to do. Nothing says that Peyrite can't talk to you whenever he wants. Considering he's also a Daedra of Order it's far more likely that he ignores you until you cross your T's and dot your I's.

 

Also, no Daedra can freely manifest on Nirn. It took almost a century of conspiracies and catastrophies for Dagon to pull that off. Sanguine, Vile and Hercine are able to create reflections of themselves, but they can't be confused with the Daedra it's self.

 

As far as Peyrite goes, he's one of the few Daedra who commands more than one plane. Yes, he's generally regarded as 'weak' compared to the others, but Clavicus Vile got the tar beaten out of him by his own sword. Vile actually has something of a penchant for losing most of his power...

[chanchan05]

Clavicus Vile's own fault for giving dividing his power/himself into separate sentient beings IMO. However as you stated, the powers of daedra are in flux, which means they can be stronger or not.

 

 

Also, if daedra can't freely manifest on earth, how do you explain Sam? :D, considering at the time of Skyrim, with several daedra actually manifesting on Nirn, I'll just assume that whatever happened in Oblivion wasn't as foolproof as the older version of having the Septim Kings.

[Lachdonin]

 

Also, if daedra can't freely manifest on earth, how do you explain Sam? :D

 

Heh, well, believe me, if the REAL Sanguine were on Nirn, there would be more shenanigans than just some drinking, stealing a goat and marrying a Hagraven. Sam is little more than a petty-Avatar with a few parlour tricks.

[chanchan05]

 

 

 

I'm not saying that Daedra can fully materialize on Nirn. That's what Dagon did and it's not that easy I'd think. But Sam is an avatar, a projection of Sanguine, and so are the other manifestations. Nocturnal is possibly the only one who can do so fully right now since there's an actual doorway between her realm and Nirn. And I'm just basing my assumptions on how big an influence they have on Nirn at the moment of the game. Heck, Sam and Sheo can freely yank you off into their own realm.

 

That reminds me. Since Sheo was originally part of Nirn because he is the Hero of Kvatch, does that mean he can get around the daedric block because he is actually of Nirn, and thus fully materializing in any period of time and psyche in Nirn???? :D