A House New Vegas

[devinpatterson]

Place holder for the Post game mod for those that follow House's All or Nothing quest, securing New Vegas and much of the Mojave in his hands.

[Devilman1975]

Sorry I'm late with it but here's my research into the House endings for New Vegas and some ideas.

 

Boomers

 

If Loyal and Pearl are dead then the Boomers will leave Nellis and we will see prospectors move into the area. If Volare was not completed then House will choose to ignore the Boomers. If Volare was completed the only difference we will see is the Boomers starting to venture out of Nellis to trade with outsiders. I would imagine they would also trade with the Gun Runners and possibly Crimson Caravan if the player got Janet and Jack together.

 

Brotherhood of Steel

 

Considering that House orders the player to destroy the Mojave chapter I would expect to see them removed from the game. I also believe that killing off the chapter in the other versions should result in Veronica finding out about the player's involvement in the chapter's destruction and lose her as a companion. I think it would be unrealistic if she continued to hang out with the player after all that.

 

Fiends

 

If Three Card Bounty was completed and Motor Runner is dead then I would expect the NCR to repel the raid on Camp McCarren. Otherwise they will take over McCarren and the Securitron army will be deployed to remove them altogether. I will expect them to remain in the Outer Vegas area until the player is tasked to remove them so that House can make use of steel plant and other facilities in the area.

 

 

Followers of the Apocalypse

 

If the Followers are still around I would expect them to face the same difficulties that they face in the Independent version in regards to supplies. Again I would offer them Vault 3, which can be used as a drug lab after the player has cleared the Outer Vegas area of any remaining Fiends.

 

Arcade

 

Arcade is said to be unhappy with House winning Hoover Dam and I would expect to lose him as a companion in this outcome. If he was advised to assist the Followers then he will become disillusioned with the followers and eventually move to Boneyard where he becomes a family doctor. If convinced to aid the Remnants then he is said to leave the Mojave for parts unknown and never be heard from again.

 

Goodsprings

 

If the player defended Goodsprings against the Powder Gangers then Victor will be sent to keep watch over the town as a token of appreciation for helping the Courier. Victor will be viewed as a mixed blessing by the residents. If the player supported the Powder Gangers instead then Goodsprings will become a ghost town. If the Powder Gangers are still in Goodsprings I can't imagine Mr House having any inclination to remove them.

 

Great Khans

 

If not convinced to break their alliance with Caesar's Legion and immigrate from the Mojave then the Great Khans will cease to exist as a tribe after their suicidal attack on Hoover Dam. They will join up with other tribes and gangs in the Mojave and eventually forget their heritage. It's worth noting that they still hold a grudge against House when he organized the three families and removed the Khans from the Vegas area.

 

The Kings

 

If the player has incite full scale war between the Kings and NCR then we learn that some of them will attack NCR citizens and soldiers during Hoover Dam. House will view these actions favorably and will decide to leave the Kings alone. Any other outcome will result in the Kings being wiped out by the Securitron army. It's also worth mentioning that Freeside becomes an unsafe place for citizens of the NCR if full scale war was incited. I believe this should have a negative effect on the money made from NCR tourists since people have to travel through Freeside on their way to the Strip unless House plans to let NCR citizens enter the Strip through McCarren.

 

Novac

 

If the quest Come Fly with Me was not completed then feral ghouls will move into Novac. If the quest was completed by sabotaging the rockets then Novac will be contaminated by the radioactive fuel from the wrecked rockets and the residents will abandon the settlement. If the quest was completed without sabotaging the rockets then the Legion will attack Novac and the Bright Followers will help out the residents. I imagine that during the battle at Hoover Dam and Legion attack on Novac, a group of Bright Followers who missed the flight will help residents evacuate to the Repconn Test Site. When Bright and his followers return later on ( I'm assuming the rockets are re-useable here ) they help the residents of Novac strengthen their defences.

 

Since House has plans to start sending people into space I would imagine that he'll be interested in securing the Repconn Test Site and would consider the Bright Brotherhood as nothing more than squatters. The player may tasked to remove them but this would make Mr House unpopular to the people of Novac.

 

Boone

 

Depending on his own quest he will stay in Vegas and either find work as a caravan guard or become a mercenary instead.

 

Powder Gangers

 

Depending on Eddie being alive and how the Vault 19 Powder Gangers are dealt with then they will continue to be a problem for caravans in the Mojave. I doubt House would have any inclination to deal with them unless the caravan attacks begin to affect his profit margins in some way. I can't see House willing to take over the prison and restore law and order to the area.

 

Primm

 

Primm will be heavily taxed by House when he offers his "protection service" if the player convinced the NCR to defend Primm. If Primm Slim or Meyers were recruited to defend the town then House will leave Primm alone.

[devinpatterson]

Thanks Devilman1975. I don't know if I mentioned how much I appreciate your help (along with sgtKraigO adn the other frequent contributors), but if I havn't said it before, thank you. My time has been in short supply and split among several projects so I havn't had a chance to really consider and reply to the viva threads nearly as much as I'd like. But I'll try to contribute tonight.

[Devilman1975]

No probs, man. Happy to help.

 

I've just started up a new game recently and I've decided to go along with the House path. Asides from the main quests the only things I will probably do different from the Independent version is incite war between the Kings and NCR (which will keep the Kings alive in the House mod post Hoover) and install Hardin as Brotherhood Elder (just so I don't feel guilty later on when I destroy the Brotherhood on House's orders). I'm sorely tempted to activate ARCHIMEDES 2 at Helios One just so I can have a handy weapon to use in critical situations.

[Devilman1975]

I've just finished my House playthrough of New Vegas recently and I thought I should mention my findings.

 

As I stated in my previous post the only things I differently compared to a NCR or Independent playthrough was setting up Hardin as the Brotherhood Elder, destroying Hidden Valley on House's orders and inciting full scale war between the Kings and NCR. The last one was something was inconsistent with the choices that my good karma Courier usually makes but it was the only way that I could keep the Kings alive at the end of a House game.

 

Before completing G.I Blues I was trying to keep a watch on my NCR reputation. I finished the other NCR missions and made sure my NCR reputation was set at Idolized before killing the NCR during G.I Blues. Thankfully I didn't take much of a reputation hit and my rep with the NCR went down to Good Natured Rascal.

 

I decided to do a bit of testing with my NCR rep and carried out Cass' quest Heartbreak by the Number the violent way by attacking the Crimson Caravan and that resulted in a more serious loss to my NCR reputation compared to G.I Blues. Even killing President Kimball ( multiple times with Euclid C-Finder. It was fun :devil: ) resulted in going from having a high NCR rep to becoming the wasteland version of Osama Bin Laden in the eyes of NCR citizens. For some reason I found it funny when I was getting chewed out by House for failing to save the President.

 

Of course I went back to a previous save, exposed the Crimson Caravan and saved the President but I thought it is important to mention this as I'm sure that some players will want to play as a retarded psychopath with little regard to the consequences of their actions. Maybe actions like these could result in a version where House annexes the Strip to the NCR but I have my doubts that House will continue to allow players who are despised by the NCR to remain in the Lucky 38 especially if Kimball was killed by the player.

Edited June 28, 2014 by Devilman1975

[blaze1514]

 

 

Considering that House orders the player to destroy the Mojave chapter I would expect to see them removed from the game. I also believe that killing off the chapter in the other versions should result in Veronica finding out about the player's involvement in the chapter's destruction and lose her as a companion. I think it would be unrealistic if she continued to hang out with the player after all that.

 

There is a file called House/Brotherhood Alliance. It has had many downloads and replaces cut content of house accepting the brotherhood. If you take them totally out after someone does this, it would be very Immersion braking. Maybe add an optional file for people that use that mod.

[devinpatterson]

I've just finished my House playthrough of New Vegas recently and I thought I should mention my findings.

Excellent. I don't see myself doing any gaming other than testing mods, for quite a while..........much less a faction playthrough. So I appreciate the help.

 

Of course I went back to a previous save, exposed the Crimson Caravan and saved the President but I thought it is important to mention this as I'm sure that some players will want to play as a retarded psychopath with little regard to the consequences of their actions. Maybe actions like these could result in a version where House annexes the Strip to the NCR but I have my doubts that House will continue to allow players who are despised by the NCR to remain in the Lucky 38 especially if Kimball was killed by the player.

Hmmmm interesting. My thoughts on the annexation (under a House faction playrhought) is that it hinges solely on the securitron vault. I was thinkking if he has the military power to hold NV he'll never cede control. Even if his relations (by proxy, the courier) result in completely alienating the NCR (resulting in a similar situation to his solution to the Legion) he will hold the throne. But of course he'd greatly prefer to have the caps rolling in from the NCR (in exchange for h20 and juice). If the player fubars that arrangement, maybe the repercussions are on the player specifically? A lot of caps at stake.

 

There is a file called House/Brotherhood Alliance. It has had many downloads and replaces cut content of house accepting the brotherhood. If you take them totally out after someone does this, it would be very Immersion braking. Maybe add an optional file for people that use that mod.

OK I'll look into it, but I suspect it's such a small fraction of players that it probably won't be a priority.

[blaze1514]

I didn't mean prioritize it or work a lot on it, I just meant that if you take them out on the main ESP, then just make an optional one that puts them back in your spare time. That really all you would need to do.

[devinpatterson]

Here's some discussion of the possibilities of the Mr. House ending on the r/falloutlore subreddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/falloutlore/comments/2vyg3u/in_the_case_of_mr_house_winning_at_the_second/). People made some very interesting points. I'm not sure how far into development you are, but suggestions can't hurt.