Fallout crashes & CTD!?

[jolly2807]

I've recently installed all 5 DLC's (not tried these yet) plus updated some mods on FO3.

 

I used to occassionally get the odd crash here n there (especially in water..?), but I seem to be getting a few more since my update, especially to the desktop for some reason.

 

If anyone can recognise the problem please let me know, and Many Thanks!

 

I'm using FO3 v1.7 & these are the mods I have active (in order):

 

--IGNORE THE LOADING FILE BIT--

 

[Fallout3.esm] Loading file

[unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm] Loading file

[Anchorage.esm] Loading file

[ThePitt.esm] Loading file

[brokenSteel.esm] Loading file

[PointLookout.esm] Loading file

[Zeta.esm] Loading file

[CALIBR.esm] Loading file

[streetLights.esm] Loading file

[Project Beauty HD version.esm] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod.esm] Loading file

 

These ESPs have file headers marked as .ESM files (don't know why)

[CrossRepairWeapons.esp] Loading file

[NoBattleMusic.esp] Loading file

[Weight.esp] Loading file

[dD-Reduced Dismember Force.esp] Loading file

[dD-More Gore.esp] Loading file

[dD-More Gore-The Pitt.esp] Loading file

[dD-More Gore-BrokenSteel.esp] Loading file

[dD-More Gore-PointLookout.esp] Loading file

[dD-More Gore-Zeta.esp] Loading file

 

Normal ESPs

[unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp] Loading file

[unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp] Loading file

[unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp] Loading file

[unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp] Loading file

[unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp] Loading file

[dD-No Screen Blood.esp] Loading file

[VDSP-01.esp] Loading file

[uPP - Pack 2.esp] Loading file

[Dree Perks Anchorage.esp] Loading file

[Dree Perks Pitts.esp] Loading file

[Dree Perks Point Lookout.esp] Loading file

[Dree Perks Mothership Zeta.esp] Loading file

[bzArmour.esp] Loading file

[bzArmour-non-nude.esp] Loading file

[bzBodySuits.esp] Loading file

[boS_FOOKedition_Armor.esp] Loading file

[Outcast DX.esp] Loading file

[Crusaders Armor.esp] Loading file

[JSBlack'sNanoArmor.esp] Loading file

[Remove That Glove.esp] Loading file

[EVE.esp] Loading file

[EVE Operation Anchorage.esp] Loading file

[WeaponModKits.esp] Loading file

[1alexscorpionsnipergear.esp] Loading file

[MPammo.esp] Loading file

[VashDeagleV5.esp] Loading file

[Tactical Weapons-Calibr-V3.esp] Loading file

[ZL-SVD-CALIBR.esp] Loading file

[DanWessonPPC357(CALIBR).esp] Loading file

[ERFatman75.esp] Loading file

[sniper's Bliss.esp] Loading file

[LightingOverhual-FULL-1.0.esp] Loading file

[DarNifiedUIF3.esp] Loading file

[DUIF3Extras.esp] Loading file

[Mavroshs Facticius Humanus.esp] Loading file

[Crosshair Toggle.esp] Loading file

[GNRfix.esp] Loading file

[NoTheftComments.esp] Loading file

[Fast_but_dramatic_VATS_0.9.esp] Loading file

[VatsLongerDistance.esp] Loading file

[Realistic Explosions.esp] Loading file

[burnification.esp] Loading file

[Explosive Entry.esp] Loading file

[CrossRepairArmor.esp] Loading file

[AnchoRepair.esp] Loading file

[PittRepair.esp] Loading file

[bSteelRepair.esp] Loading file

[PLookoutRepair.esp] Loading file

[MZetaRepair.esp] Loading file

[CBOv1.4.esp] Loading file

[Comp_dont_steal_xp_hereticus.esp] Loading file

[DisableVanityMode.esp] Loading file

[richvendors.esp] Loading file

[KillableKidsNormalHealth.esp] Loading file

[PowerArmorTraining.esp] Loading file

[PowerArmorTraining_Linden.esp] Loading file

[PowerArmorTraining_MedicArmor.esp] Loading file

[Megaton and Tenpenny Easy Access.esp] Loading file

[Megaton Walkway.esp] Loading file

[DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esp] Loading file

[Reilly's.esp] Loading file

[beefedUpCitadel.esp] Loading file

[Owned!.esp] Loading file

[Project Beauty.esp] Loading file

[Raider preset beta.esp] Loading file

[Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp] Loading file

[Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Increased Spawns.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - No Floaters.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - No Wanamingos.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - No Size Scaling.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp] Loading file

[PB MMM HD.esp] Loading file

[Project Beauty- MMM Raiders.esp] Loading file

[Peaceful Tenpenny without 3 Dog.esp] Loading file

[tptPayback.esp] Loading file

[CRBSOR.esp] Loading file

[Choose your own hairstyle (load this last on FOMM).esp] Loading file

[Skotte]

while nothing strikes as odd about your modlist, I can tell you why some of your ESPs are marked as ESMs

 

They might have been altered by FO3edit masterupdate mode which was needed for some mods to work correcly with Fallout 3 v1.5

[jolly2807]

I've made a few changes, used FO3MasterUpdate & re-arranged the mod list a bit & removed Crusaders Armor mod.

The game seems to be a tad snappier than before and more reliable, though I'm still getting random CTD's occurring that didn't before I installed the DLCs.

 

This is the current list (in order):

 

[Fallout3.esm] Loading file

[Anchorage.esm] Loading file

[ThePitt.esm] Loading file

[brokenSteel.esm] Loading file

[PointLookout.esm] Loading file

[Zeta.esm] Loading file

[CALIBR.esm] Loading file

[unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm] Loading file

[Project Beauty HD version.esm] Loading file

[streetLights.esm] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod.esm] Loading file

 

[unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp] Loading file

[unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp] Loading file

[unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp] Loading file

[unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp] Loading file

[unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp] Loading file

[dD-Reduced Dismember Force.esp] Loading file

[dD-More Gore.esp] Loading file

[dD-More Gore-The Pitt.esp] Loading file

[dD-More Gore-BrokenSteel.esp] Loading file

[dD-More Gore-PointLookout.esp] Loading file

[dD-More Gore-Zeta.esp] Loading file

[dD-No Screen Blood.esp] Loading file

[VDSP-01.esp] Loading file

[uPP - Pack 2.esp] Loading file

[Dree Perks Anchorage.esp] Loading file

[Dree Perks Pitts.esp] Loading file

[Dree Perks Point Lookout.esp] Loading file

[Dree Perks Mothership Zeta.esp] Loading file

[bzArmour.esp] Loading file

[bzArmour-non-nude.esp] Loading file

[bzBodySuits.esp] Loading file

[boS_FOOKedition_Armor.esp] Loading file

[Outcast DX.esp] Loading file

[JSBlack'sNanoArmor.esp] Loading file

[Remove That Glove.esp] Loading file

[EVE.esp] Loading file

[EVE Operation Anchorage.esp] Loading file

[WeaponModKits.esp] Loading file

[1alexscorpionsnipergear.esp] Loading file

[MPammo.esp] Loading file

[VashDeagleV5.esp] Loading file

[Tactical Weapons-Calibr-V3.esp] Loading file

[ZL-SVD-CALIBR.esp] Loading file

[DanWessonPPC357(CALIBR).esp] Loading file

[ERFatman75.esp] Loading file

[sniper's Bliss.esp] Loading file

[LightingOverhual-FULL-1.0.esp] Loading file

[DarNifiedUIF3.esp] Loading file

[DUIF3Extras.esp] Loading file

[Mavroshs Facticius Humanus.esp] Loading file

[Crosshair Toggle.esp] Loading file

[GNRfix.esp] Loading file

[NoTheftComments.esp] Loading file

[NoBattleMusic.esp] Loading file

[Weight.esp] Loading file

[Fast_but_dramatic_VATS_0.9.esp] Loading file

[VatsLongerDistance.esp] Loading file

[Realistic Explosions.esp] Loading file

[burnification.esp] Loading file

[Explosive Entry.esp] Loading file

[CrossRepairWeapons.esp] Loading file

[CrossRepairArmor.esp] Loading file

[AnchoRepair.esp] Loading file

[PittRepair.esp] Loading file

[bSteelRepair.esp] Loading file

[PLookoutRepair.esp] Loading file

[MZetaRepair.esp] Loading file

[CBOv1.4.esp] Loading file

[Comp_dont_steal_xp_hereticus.esp] Loading file

[DisableVanityMode.esp] Loading file

[richvendors.esp] Loading file

[KillableKidsNormalHealth.esp] Loading file

[PowerArmorTraining.esp] Loading file

[PowerArmorTraining_Linden.esp] Loading file

[PowerArmorTraining_MedicArmor.esp] Loading file

[Megaton and Tenpenny Easy Access.esp] Loading file

[Megaton Walkway.esp] Loading file

[DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esp] Loading file

[Reilly's.esp] Loading file

[beefedUpCitadel.esp] Loading file

[Owned!.esp] Loading file

[Project Beauty.esp] Loading file

[Raider preset beta.esp] Loading file

[Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp] Loading file

[Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Increased Spawns.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - No Floaters.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - No Wanamingos.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - No Size Scaling.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp] Loading file

[Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp] Loading file

[PB MMM HD.esp] Loading file

[Project Beauty- MMM Raiders.esp] Loading file

[Peaceful Tenpenny without 3 Dog.esp] Loading file

[tptPayback.esp] Loading file

[CRBSOR.esp] Loading file

[Choose your own hairstyle (load this last on FOMM).esp] Loading file

 

Thanks for the info Skotte, anymore/anyone else's help is greatly appreciated.

[csb]

In addition to playing with the load order in FOMM, you'll want to use FO3Edit to find and resolve conflicts (run Master Restore). You'll want Miax's great FO3Edit Guide - Web-enized, especially the chapter on Conflict Detection & Resolution. Load order setting in FOMM will only get you so far, especially with a long mod list. After which, you really need a merge patch specific to your mods.

[Branimirzg]

just one advice for possible issues in the future...To copy your load order- open fomm, right click on load order, copy to clipboard and then paste to comment

 

yestarday i saw similiar load order with crashing problems...Belive it or not... problem was solved by removing

alexscorpion sniper gear...try it!