idea assassin Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 And the universe doesn't care. If we wipe ourselves out, the universe will continue its purposeless existence, expanding at an ever faster rate. Somehow, I find this a very cheering thought. :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albareth Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Didn't have time to read this all nor will I have to reply to the majority of it now - just pointing out one thing that caught my eye. Talking about someone (god) being there to start the big bang is IMO adding an useless complication. You have a self-substaining theory, the big bang, adding god into it is just wishful thinking, you can endlessly add extra factors of no relevance into a theory. For example... but maybe there is a god-god who created god, and he is eternal! But maybe that god lives in another world of gods!... that may seem foolish to you, but so is IMO saying god started the big bang. If you adher to that theory being correct - god has no place in it. IMO science may not be perfect but it shows a clearly logical system to a certain degree, even if it's only showing us bits and pieces and not perfect at all in any way it's still logical and coherent and based on valid data. Christianity, like all religion, is based on a perceived "connection to god/<insert-deity>" and the bible/<insert-holy-rite>, etc... personally I think it has a lot to do with how hard you believe in the authenticity of that. Personally I think it's your own mind playing tricks on you when you "perceive a connection with god", it's wishful thinking making you feel things that aren't there, it's not like it hasn't been proved to happen in various other circumstances. As for the bible - there have been so many religions coming up with their holy rites and passages, why is the bible the correct one? There is no factual data for the bible being true. It's just a book, written by humans, we have no reason to think it was written by a true god other than, yes, wishful thinking IMO... Humans invented again and again and again and again religions, either for their own personal purposes or they actually believed them for varying reasons, and everytime the people adhering to that religion through time believed it to varying degrees, what I don't get is what possible logic do you have for christianity being true but not the rest? Now - I've got a fever and it's way past midnight so I'm gonna leave it at that, hehe, hope I made at least medium sense... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltiraaz Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Since you have a fever, i'll let you off with a stern warning that you didn't read my previous posts answering the vast majority of your questions.. :P :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxist ßastard Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Eltiraaz Well there is more evidence to support Christianity then any other religion. I'd first think this was a joke if it came from anyone else... But, since this is you, please enlighten me as to how Christianity has more proof of being correct than any other religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idea assassin Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Religion isn't about proof. It's about faith. Science is about proof. No one can prove the existance of God or Jesus. Either it speaks to you or it doesn't. But people who only believe in what they can see and what can be proven, must live in a very boring world, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Reaper Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Science is about proof. No one can prove the existance of God or Jesus........But people who only believe in what they can see and what can be proven, must live in a very boring world, IMO.Thats were you´re wrong, there are many roman documents that prove the existance of "The king of Jews" at that time.Nope, my world isn´t boring because there is still much to learn and to discover through science. IMHO the people who only believe what is writen in a book thats already been proved wrong in more than one "ocasion" must live in a very boring and pityful world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idea assassin Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 IMHO the people who only believe what is writen in a book thats already been proved wrong in more than one "ocasion" must live in a very boring and pityful world. What part of the Bible has been proven wrong? I must have missed that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Reaper Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 The part where God created man and woman, It has already been proved that humans evolved, and our DNA is only 2% different from other primates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idea assassin Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 The part where God created man and woman, It has already been proved that humans evolved, and our DNA is only 2% different from other primates. When was it proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that humans evolved from anything? I missed that report too. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Reaper Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Thats too bad, because we´ve found bodies in the different stages of evolution, and I don´t remenber seeing in the bible that god created neanderthals, Australopitecus, Homo Erectus and Homo Abilis. :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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