Conjuration Spell Merchant Crash

[kyubey2]

Within the past week, I've noticed that, whenever I asked to purchase an item from a conjuration vendor (i.e. Phinis Gestor), Skyrim crashes to the desktop. This has also happened with the vendor you can activate in the Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim mod.

I've tried uninstalling the magic-oriented mods I've tried around that time (Druid Conjuration, Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim, Forgotten Magic Redone, and Druid Essentials), but the problem still occurs even with a clean save and a newly created character. I've also cleaned my mods through TES5Edit, sorted them with BOSS, and kept them all up to date through Nexus. I'm using SKSE ver. 1.7.0.

I greatly appreciate any help with this problem!

Skyrim Mod List:

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Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
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Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
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Edited April 25, 2014 by r1t30f5pr1n6

[chanchan05]

Your load order is a mess. You shouldn't rely completely on BOSS. All unrecognized mods should be sorted manually. For example, changes by reproccer to book covers skyrim is being changed by BCS skyre patch which is supposed to go before reproccer. Also get your missing patches from xathra for SkyRe. This would affect books in game (maybe the conjuration books in particular?)

[kyubey2]

Your load order is a mess. You shouldn't rely completely on BOSS. All unrecognized mods should be sorted manually. For example, changes by reproccer to book covers skyrim is being changed by BCS skyre patch which is supposed to go before reproccer. Also get your missing patches from xathra for SkyRe. This would affect books in game (maybe the conjuration books in particular?)

 

Okay, I'll try fixing up the load order and see if that helps! Thanks!

 

Edit (10:56pm PST): I've tried uninstalling all the mods I've downloaded at the time the issue started, but trying to activate the merchant window for Phinis Gestor still made Skyrim crash. Also, whenever I downloaded xathra's patches, it said Book Cover Skyrim.esp was missing according to the Reproccer, but uninstalling the patches made it work. I'm wondering if maybe it's the merchant itself? All the other merchants, including the spell ones, work (minus the one with Apocalypse).

 

I can always add the master spells via console (that worked perfectly fine).

Edited April 25, 2014 by r1t30f5pr1n6

[Lysander9]

I'm Having the exact same problem. All vendors that sell conjuration spells crash when I ask "What have you got for sale?". I don't know if my load order is correct:

 

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

HearthFires.esm=1

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Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

Falskaar.esm=1

Wyrmstooth.esp=1

Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm=1

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Lootification.esm=1

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[StCroix]

I had the same problem this week. After extensive investigation, I found the problem is the Skyre patches from Insects Begone. The problem is they delete the records for certain Skyre added spells and spell-tomes, and that's the problem when magic merchant lists are activated in the game. I'm no expert at this stuff, but what I did was edit the Insects Begone - Skyrim Main to not remove the spell-tomes. Instead, I changed their spells to the summon wolf spell instead of summon spider/chaurus spells. This works - the merchants now load Summon Spider tomes in their list, but those tomes don't actually summon spiders.

 

 

[kyubey2]

I had the same problem this week. After extensive investigation, I found the problem is the Skyre patches from Insects Begone. The problem is they delete the records for certain Skyre added spells and spell-tomes, and that's the problem when magic merchant lists are activated in the game. I'm no expert at this stuff, but what I did was edit the Insects Begone - Skyrim Main to not remove the spell-tomes. Instead, I changed their spells to the summon wolf spell instead of summon spider/chaurus spells. This works - the merchants now load Summon Spider tomes in their list, but those tomes don't actually summon spiders.

 

 

Oh, that makes sense! How did you edit the mod to not remove the spell tomes?

[ChadChadborn]

I had the same problem this week. After extensive investigation, I found the problem is the Skyre patches from Insects Begone. The problem is they delete the records for certain Skyre added spells and spell-tomes, and that's the problem when magic merchant lists are activated in the game. I'm no expert at this stuff, but what I did was edit the Insects Begone - Skyrim Main to not remove the spell-tomes. Instead, I changed their spells to the summon wolf spell instead of summon spider/chaurus spells. This works - the merchants now load Summon Spider tomes in their list, but those tomes don't actually summon spiders.

 

 

I'm having the same issue listed, but I don't have the Insects Begone mod or patches for it anywhere in my loadout. How do I determine which mod(s) are to blame for causing this problem?

[Rodr1sen]

I have deleted my comment, if it is a post that I created feel free to delete it from nexus, thank you

Edited December 9, 2023 by rodr1ss