gjcampesi63 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I've been working for several weeks on preparing a heavily modded and decently stable loadout from which to start a series of playthroughs, and while I have overcome a majority of hurdles in this regard, there is still one bug that I cannot seem to weed out.For almost every non-hostile NPC in the game, I have a bizarre dialogue option of: "..." (Yes just the three periods) to which they respond: "Praise the Gods! You're from Tamriel aren't you? The Jarl will be most anxious to see you! Pr" (Yes it just cuts off) There is no audio file to go alone with this line, nor is there any lip-syncing. The NPC will just stare back at me silently while the line is displayed. I am especially annoyed at this because whatever mod is doing this adds this option to every NPC, even the ones who would normally have no dialogue options (i.e. Guards and other generic NPCs). But this also adds the option to other NPCs, such as Merchants, Quest-Givers, and others. And no matter what, I cannot seem to get it to go away. I have a very extensive loadout (200+ active plugins) and thus pinpointing the source of this problem has become difficult, and so I turn to you, Nexus community, for any possible assistance. Below is my load order, which may help narrow it down. I have searched Google about a dozen times looking for similar posts but so far I have been unable to locate one. FYI: I started noticing the bug when I began adding new content mods (Quests, Dungeons, and New Locations) so my intuition is that it is one of those. # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espDawnguard.esmUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espHearthFires.esmUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espDragonborn.esmUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espSkyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esmFalskaar.esmWyrmstooth.esp3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esmETaC - RESOURCES.esmJSwords.esmKet_ARMONIZER_v2.esmOmegared99-Compilation.esmLCOA.esmGrytewake.esmAMO.esmFantasy Soundtrack Project.espSkyMoMod.esmLB_MuchAdoSnowElves.esmORS_SolitudeGate.esmORS_MorthalPain.esmGameOfThronesArmors.esmmoonpath.esmdaymoyl.esmTouringCarriages.espCutting Room Floor.espFalskaarDawnguard.espiHUD.espSkyUI.espConvenient Horses.espAMatterOfTime.espAchieveThat.espnaturalclock.espAnimations.espChesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.espRaceMenu.espDead Body Collision.espLock Overhaul.espDeadlyCombat.espGrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_Vanilla.espOmegared99-WeaponSets.espDragonbornArmorFix.espDYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.espDrSKnapsacks.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espETaC - Merged Plugins.espELFX - Exteriors.espImmersiveFP.espDual Sheath Redux.espImportantInformationOverhaul.espIncreased Bounty & Guild Rewards.espRaceMenuPlugin.espChesko_WearableLantern.espSkyRe_Main.espAOS.espDeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.espHroldanNightgateSawmillSingleESP.esp3DNPC.espFCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.espMonster Wars.espAOS_SkyRe-AFTER Patch.espComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espETaC - Riverwood.espReal Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.espSkyRealism - Capacity and Carry Weight.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures.espFSP - Dawnguard Edition.espCastleGrey.esp83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.espHelgen Reborn.espELFXEnhancer.espPureweather.espComplete Solitude.espImmersive Weapons.espSkyRe_EnemyScaling.espRebirth Monster.espASIS-Encounter Zones.espUndeath.espHarvestOverhaul.espHarvestOverhaul_SkyRe_Patch.espWHITEX.espPinewood Village.espOBIS.espBirdsofskyrim.espRebirth Monster - SIC Patch.espStaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.espwizDynamicThings.espWetandCold.espAOS_WetandCold Patch.espWetandCold - Ashes.espWATER Falskaar.espYOT - Your Own Thoughts.espThunderchild - Epic Shout Package.espSolstheim - The Lost Levels.espThirteen Oranges Quests and Places Merged Plugins.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espw2salem.espMoonAndStar_MAS.espMorrowindArmor.espOBISDB.espCivil War Overhaul.espThunderchild Wyrmstooth Patch.espThunderchild - SkyRe Compatibility Patch.espmm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedDGCompatibility.espsjel blad castle.espHidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged - No Map Markers.espESFCompanions.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espSkyRe_EncounterZones.espDawnofWindhelm.espMarchOfTheDwemer.espAMO - Special.espHunting in Skyrim - No Perks.espEbonvale.espHigher Bounties Hold Specific.espHebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.espRE_RealEstate.espTravel By Boat.espArtifactOverhaul.espSkyRe_CraftingFix.espWATER DB Waves.espKet_WEAPONIZER.esp3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.espLrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.espTradeBarter.espRealisticNeedsandDiseases.espWATER.espRND_Dawnguard-Patch.espWATER DG.espRND_Dragonborn-Patch.espSolitude A City Of Trade.espSkyrimsUniqueTreasures.espHeimfeigr.espTheFrontier.espInconsequential NPCs.espCloaks.espStaticMeshImprovementMod.espDiseased.espquest_thebiggertheyare.espORS_ChaptersLinker.espKet_ARMONIZER_LListsNPC.espCommonClothes.espHarvestOverhaulCreatures.espStaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.espHarvestOverhaulCreatures_RND_Animal_Loot_All_DLC.espDawnofRiften.espDragonmournInn.espImmersive Patrols Merged Plugins.espTheDomain.espLB_MuchAdoSnowElves_Quest.espTradeRoutes.espTradeRoutes-RNaD-Patch.espRND_USKP-Patch.espTradeRoutes-SkyRe-Patch.espquest_nomercy.espmoonpath_questdata.espFleetford.espAdalMatar.espSyerscote.espquest_seaofghosts.espelvenwood.espELFX - Moonpath.espAgentOfRighteousMight.espValuungrann.espLostLongSwords.espLCOAUpdate.espDoV.espNuvanja.espJotunheim.espSkyRe_StandingStones.espChesko_Frostfall.espColettesRevenge.espYOT - Frostfall Module.espquest_pitfighter.espRND_HearthFires-Patch.espSkyRe_Races.espMidas Magic Expanded.espBandit Patrols.espSkyRe_Survivalism.espTamriel Compendium - Skill Books.espHidden Hideouts of Skyrim City Edition - Merged - No Map Markers.espFSP - Unique Towns & Locations.espDr_Bandolier.espDragon Soul Relinquishment.esp_tck_SpellCrafting.espNature of the beast.espDA_Skyship.espHHoS Subterranean Hot Spring.espImmersive Dragonborn.espHHoS Ancient Shrine.espAMO - Combat.espPredator Vision.espRND_AnimalLoot.espWATER Plants.espDragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.espInto the Deep.espbobsarmory.espAOS_SkyRe Patch.espSpellsOfTheThirdEra.espExtended Encounters.espPhenderix's Magic Evolved No Perks.espThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.espbhabhilon.espHunterborn.espImmersive Dawnguard.espTheClockworkAdventure.espFishingInSkyrim.espGersonia.espHunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.espHunterborn_RND-Patch.espMzarkWonders.espPP_OgmundsTomb.espSpellblade.espKnapsackEnhanced.espEquipping Overhaul.espSkyRe_Combat.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espHraghenskaagLabyrinths.espApocalypse - SkyRe Compatibility Patch.espACE Synergy.espACE BYOG.espACE Realistic Fighting.espvAutosaveManager.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espBashed Patch, 0.espASIS-Dependency.espASIS.espDual Sheath Redux Patch.espReProccer.espDeadlyCombat_ASIS_Patch.espReProccerDragonborn.espReProccerNONPLAYERfix.esp Thanks everyone who took the time to read this post and especially to those who can help me sort this out!(Unfortunately this is my first time posting and I don't know how to make spoilers or minimizable text-blocks. I will edit this post with one it is against forum rules and someone tells me how :tongue: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piperman123 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 [ spoiler ] txt [/spoiler ] That's how you add spoiler tags, just remove the spaces. As for your issue. I'm on my phone so I can't tell for sure but do you have 'become arl of ivarstead' mod? Sounds like a line that might be in that. Sorry I can't check properly, if I wasn't at work and on my phone I would lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaWulf Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 It's Falskaar.Same thing happened to me when I tried to play it. I got tired of dealing with the bugs in it and just gave up. If you want to play it, I'd suggest doing it with as few other mods as possible because it seems to have serious compatibility issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcampesi63 Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share Posted April 26, 2014 I figured it must have been a mod that added new lands because that would explain why the speaker would be surprised that I was from Tamriel. I suspected Falskaar but I had it installed for a while before the bug popped up, plus I figured that with the mod's notoriety I would have been able to find documentation of it. If it is a compatibility issue, that would explain why it didn't pop up when I first installed it. I'm going to do some testing with various Falskaar plugins enabled to see if I can narrow the bug down any further and report back. Thanks for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcampesi63 Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share Posted April 26, 2014 Not sure how helpful this will be, but if I use the loadout below (which includes Falskaar and all relevant plugins), the bug disappears. # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espDawnguard.esmUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espHearthFires.esmUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espDragonborn.esmUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espSkyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esmFalskaar.esmWyrmstooth.esp3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esmJSwords.esmETaC - RESOURCES.esmKet_ARMONIZER_v2.esmOmegared99-Compilation.esmLCOA.esmGameOfThronesArmors.esmAMO.esmFantasy Soundtrack Project.espSkyMoMod.esmmoonpath.esmdaymoyl.esmTouringCarriages.espCutting Room Floor.espConvenient Horses.espAMatterOfTime.esp83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.espChesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.espRaceMenu.espLock Overhaul.espStaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.espwizDynamicThings.espOmegared99-WeaponSets.espDragonbornArmorFix.espGrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_Vanilla.espDeadlyCombat.espDYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.espDrSKnapsacks.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espETaC - Merged Plugins.espELFX - Exteriors.espImmersiveFP.espAnimations.espImportantInformationOverhaul.espIncreased Bounty & Guild Rewards.espRaceMenuPlugin.espChesko_WearableLantern.espSkyRe_Main.espAOS.espDeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.espHroldanNightgateSawmillSingleESP.esp3DNPC.espFCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.espMonster Wars.espAOS_SkyRe-AFTER Patch.espComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espETaC - Riverwood.espReal Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures.espFSP - Dawnguard Edition.espImmersive Weapons.espSkyRe_EnemyScaling.espRebirth Monster.espASIS-Encounter Zones.espRebirth Monster - SIC Patch.espELFXEnhancer.espPureweather.espComplete Solitude.espUndeath.espHarvestOverhaul.espHarvestOverhaul_SkyRe_Patch.espWHITEX.espPinewood Village.espOBIS.espBirdsofskyrim.espSkyRealism - Capacity and Carry Weight.espSkyUI.espAchieveThat.espDual Sheath Redux.espFalskaarDawnguard.espiHUD.espThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.espWetandCold.espAOS_WetandCold Patch.espWetandCold - Ashes.espWATER Falskaar.espYOT - Your Own Thoughts.espThunderchild - Epic Shout Package.espSolstheim - The Lost Levels.espThirteen Oranges Quests and Places Merged Plugins.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espw2salem.espMoonAndStar_MAS.espMorrowindArmor.espOBISDB.espCivil War Overhaul.espThunderchild Wyrmstooth Patch.espThunderchild - SkyRe Compatibility Patch.espmm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedDGCompatibility.espsjel blad castle.espHidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged - No Map Markers.espESFCompanions.espAMO - Special.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espSkyRe_EncounterZones.espDawnofWindhelm.espHunting in Skyrim - No Perks.espEbonvale.espHigher Bounties Hold Specific.espRE_RealEstate.espTravel By Boat.espArtifactOverhaul.espSkyRe_CraftingFix.espWATER DB Waves.espSolitude A City Of Trade.espKet_WEAPONIZER.esp3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.espLrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.espTradeBarter.espRealisticNeedsandDiseases.espWATER.espRND_Dawnguard-Patch.espWATER DG.espRND_Dragonborn-Patch.espSkyrimsUniqueTreasures.espHeimfeigr.espTheFrontier.espInconsequential NPCs.espCloaks.espStaticMeshImprovementMod.espDiseased.espquest_thebiggertheyare.espKet_ARMONIZER_LListsNPC.espCommonClothes.espHarvestOverhaulCreatures.espStaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.espHarvestOverhaulCreatures_RND_Animal_Loot_All_DLC.espLostLongSwords.espDawnofRiften.espDragonmournInn.espImmersive Patrols Merged Plugins.espTheDomain.espTradeRoutes.espTradeRoutes-RNaD-Patch.espRND_USKP-Patch.espTradeRoutes-SkyRe-Patch.espquest_nomercy.espmoonpath_questdata.espFleetford.espAdalMatar.espSyerscote.espquest_seaofghosts.espelvenwood.espELFX - Moonpath.espAgentOfRighteousMight.espLCOAUpdate.espDoV.espNuvanja.espJotunheim.espSkyRe_StandingStones.espChesko_Frostfall.espColettesRevenge.espYOT - Frostfall Module.espquest_pitfighter.espRND_HearthFires-Patch.espSkyRe_Races.espMidas Magic Expanded.espBandit Patrols.espSkyRe_Survivalism.espTamriel Compendium - Skill Books.espHidden Hideouts of Skyrim City Edition - Merged - No Map Markers.espFSP - Unique Towns & Locations.espDr_Bandolier.espDragon Soul Relinquishment.espRND_AnimalLoot.esp_tck_SpellCrafting.espNature of the beast.espDA_Skyship.espHHoS Subterranean Hot Spring.espImmersive Dragonborn.espHHoS Ancient Shrine.espAMO - Combat.espPredator Vision.espWATER Plants.espInto the Deep.espbobsarmory.espAOS_SkyRe Patch.espSpellsOfTheThirdEra.espExtended Encounters.espHunterborn.espImmersive Dawnguard.espFishingInSkyrim.espGersonia.espHunterborn_RND-Patch.espHunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.espPhenderix's Magic Evolved No Perks.espMzarkWonders.espPP_OgmundsTomb.espSpellblade.espKnapsackEnhanced.espEquipping Overhaul.espSkyRe_Combat.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espApocalypse - SkyRe Compatibility Patch.espACE Synergy.espACE BYOG.espACE Realistic Fighting.espvAutosaveManager.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espBashed Patch, 0.espASIS-Dependency.espASIS.espDual Sheath Redux Patch.espReProccer.espDeadlyCombat_ASIS_Patch.espReProccerDragonborn.espReProccerNONPLAYERfix.esp Anyway, I am not particularly excited to sift through all of these and look for the absent plugins, but I will do some more work on it tonight and see what I can find out. 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gjcampesi63 Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share Posted April 26, 2014 After further testing I have made two conclusions: 1.) The Dialogue bug is definitely caused by Falskaar (So far as disabling Falskaar plugins disables the bug) but... 2.) It only appears when the quest mod Much Ado about Snow Elves - A Tragedy is enabled. Unfortunately for LittleBaron, I will be leaving Much Ado about Snow Elves out of my playthrough for now. Thanks DeltaWulf for pointing me in the right direction. You've saved me a lot of grief! Good News! I was dead wrong!After playing for a while with Falskaar enabled and Much Ado disabled, the bug began to reappear. My false conclusions were drawn from the fact that the dialogue bug only appears after the reload of the game. But, since I was testing for this bug with new characters each time, I didn't notice. So after about 90 minutes of disabling and enabling plugins, I have made two new conclusions: 1.) Falskaar was not the culprit (So far as disabling Falskaar plugins did nothing to disable the bug)Looks like I owe Mr. Alexander J. Velicky an apology for a false bug report >.< and 2.) Lost Colony of Akavir (listed in my load order as LCOA.esm and LCOA Update.esp) was the culprit. After disabling LCOA, the bug is completely removed, as far as all my testing has revealed. Of course, my testing is clearly not the most credible >.<I regret not testing LCOA sooner of course, as it seems like the most obvious suspect in hindsight (Adds new land, comparatively lower production quality, no voice acting, etc. etc.)Anyway, I am greatly relieved to have relieved my loadout of this bug. Thanks again to you guys who replied to my posts! I'll probably be back on the forums in two hours to let you know that I was wrong again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaWulf Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) That's strange, because I was having the same exact bug with Falskaar. I had no other new lands or quest mods installed, and once I uninstalled Falskaar the dialogue bug was gone. Also a lot of the stuff within Falskaar wasn't working right, like I was immediately attacked by everything in sight as soon as I stepped into the first town. Even the Jarl came out of his Longhouse to fight me.Maybe it's a kind of "general" bug that can happen when lots of new quests and dialogue is added. Edited April 26, 2014 by DeltaWulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryWompa Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 (edited) thanks guys for this forum, you saved me countless hours of searching; I had the same problem with the dialogue and couldn't pinpoint it Edited August 9, 2014 by HarryWompa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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