bloa2 Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 this as never happend before and i played oblivion on my pc account before and it worked fine. tocheck this i made a new account and still had the same problem, whenever i press "new game" then "yes" it stops responding and i tried it with all mods off and i also reinstalled and tried to load a previous save but still can't get it to work. Please help me :wallbash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 You don't say if you have any mods installed or not, whether you have (or need )OBSE, or if you have the latest patch installed. Or what operating system, what patch version, whether you are installing using a disk, the GOTY, D2d, Steam or other. Or if you have Shivering Isles installed or not. You must be signed on as an administrator, Assuming a DVD install, non GOTY, on XP and in the default location (the most popular configuration) And no mods in the data folder. There is a bug - if you uninstall and reinstall too many times it can stop working. I don't think it is an exact number. I have lost count of the number of uninstall re installs I have done without a problem, but I always use the procedure in the link below. Also, if you have added any hardware since the last time you had a working game, or have installed on a different computer, your Oblivion.ini may be wrong. Erase the Oblivion.ini file. The one in C:\documents and settings\your user name\my documents\my games\Oblivion (That's where your save games are located also. When you start Oblivion again, it will create a new one with the new hardware information. If all else fails, Here is a link to my complete uninstall/reinstall procedure located in the articles section of the Nexushttp://www.tesnexus.com/articles/article.php?id=240 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloa2 Posted November 27, 2009 Author Share Posted November 27, 2009 You don't say if you have any mods installed or not, whether you have (or need )OBSE, or if you have the latest patch installed. Or what operating system, what patch version, whether you are installing using a disk, the GOTY, D2d, Steam or other. Or if you have Shivering Isles installed or not. You must be signed on as an administrator, Assuming a DVD install, non GOTY, on XP and in the default location (the most popular configuration) And no mods in the data folder. There is a bug - if you uninstall and reinstall too many times it can stop working. I don't think it is an exact number. I have lost count of the number of uninstall re installs I have done without a problem, but I always use the procedure in the link below. Also, if you have added any hardware since the last time you had a working game, or have installed on a different computer, your Oblivion.ini may be wrong. Erase the Oblivion.ini file. The one in C:\documents and settings\your user name\my documents\my games\Oblivion (That's where your save games are located also. When you start Oblivion again, it will create a new one with the new hardware information. If all else fails, Here is a link to my complete uninstall/reinstall procedure located in the articles section of the Nexushttp://www.tesnexus.com/articles/article.php?id=240 ok i deleted the oblivion.ini file from my documents. i do have a lot of mods installed, i dont have OBSE and have never used it as could never figure out how to use it, i have the newest patch, my operating system is windows vista home premuim and im installing using the normal disc (not GOTY) i don't think this is a problem with installing the game, as its already installed just when i go to make a new save at the main screen i click it and then confirm but it never loads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Many mods actually Require OBSE. If it is not installed and needed, what you describe - not being able to get passed the intro screen before crashing. You can also get that if you do not have the latest patch and a mod needs it to work.Just unclicking a mod does not remove it- it only prevents the esp from starting when you play. All of the textures, meshes and other non esp files are still there, and can still cause problems. As to using OBSE. The only thing you have to do is start OBSE instead of Oblivion. There are no option and nothing you do either with it or to it. If you use OBMM to start Oblivion, if OBSE is installed, it will automatically detect it and start OBSE first. OBSE only does anything when a mod requires it. It does not affect the game at all if it is not needed but installed. Note: OBSE is not a mod and does not install like a mod. It is a program, and must be installed properly to work. Copying it will not work. OBSE also will not work with the D2D version of Oblivion- that is D2D and not OBSE's fault. Here is something to try. rename your data folder to oldata (or anything else that you will easily remember)create a new data folderCopy (do not move) the following files from the oldata folder to the data folder you just made. Contents of a clean install \data folder Music (folder)Shaders (folder)Video (folder)Credits (text) Oblivion - Meshes.bsaOblivion - Misc.bsaOblivion - Sounds.bsaOblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsaOblivion - Voices1.bsaOblivion - voices2.bsaOblivion.esm This is a clean oblivion install, with no mods or anything else (As OBMM and OBSE are not in the data folder they should still work)If you have patched the game, the official patch will still be in effect as they make changes to the actual game file.If you have SI installed, this may not work, you may try copying The Shivering Isles esp over to see if that makes it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloa2 Posted November 28, 2009 Author Share Posted November 28, 2009 Many mods actually Require OBSE. If it is not installed and needed, what you describe - not being able to get passed the intro screen before crashing. You can also get that if you do not have the latest patch and a mod needs it to work.Just unclicking a mod does not remove it- it only prevents the esp from starting when you play. All of the textures, meshes and other non esp files are still there, and can still cause problems. As to using OBSE. The only thing you have to do is start OBSE instead of Oblivion. There are no option and nothing you do either with it or to it. If you use OBMM to start Oblivion, if OBSE is installed, it will automatically detect it and start OBSE first. OBSE only does anything when a mod requires it. It does not affect the game at all if it is not needed but installed. Note: OBSE is not a mod and does not install like a mod. It is a program, and must be installed properly to work. Copying it will not work. OBSE also will not work with the D2D version of Oblivion- that is D2D and not OBSE's fault. Here is something to try. rename your data folder to oldata (or anything else that you will easily remember)create a new data folderCopy (do not move) the following files from the oldata folder to the data folder you just made. Contents of a clean install \data folder Music (folder)Shaders (folder)Video (folder)Credits (text) Oblivion - Meshes.bsaOblivion - Misc.bsaOblivion - Sounds.bsaOblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsaOblivion - Voices1.bsaOblivion - voices2.bsaOblivion.esm This is a clean oblivion install, with no mods or anything else (As OBMM and OBSE are not in the data folder they should still work)If you have patched the game, the official patch will still be in effect as they make changes to the actual game file.If you have SI installed, this may not work, you may try copying The Shivering Isles esp over to see if that makes it work. I have moved all the files to a new folder, and completly reinstalled. I load up data files and only oblivion.esm is in there, which was supposed to happen but when i load the game and click "new" it still crashes there i have done all of the above steps which you told me to try but still nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloa2 Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 It's possible there is a problem in the Windows registry. The only way around this is a full uninstall and reinstall - including cleaning the registry. Here is a link to my complete uninstall/reinstall procedure located in the articles section of the Nexushttp://www.tesnexus.com/articles/article.php?id=240 For registry problems, the rebooting the computer both before and after running the registry cleaner is very important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloa2 Posted December 16, 2009 Author Share Posted December 16, 2009 It's possible there is a problem in the Windows registry. The only way around this is a full uninstall and reinstall - including cleaning the registry. Here is a link to my complete uninstall/reinstall procedure located in the articles section of the Nexushttp://www.tesnexus.com/articles/article.php?id=240 For registry problems, the rebooting the computer both before and after running the registry cleaner is very important. OK thanks so much for all the help its just im 14 and never done this before and seems if i do something wrong it will be unuseable so im not going to risk it, unless there is a way someone could use that thing where you take over anothers PC and do that but anyway again thanks for the help :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Yes, if you directly edit the registry, and make a mistake, it can make your computer unbootable. That's why I recommend using ccleaner as a part of my complete uninstall/reinstall and NOT directly going into the registry yourself. It's a safe way of cleaning the registry, and much much faster than doing it manually. (My last cclean took all of twelve seconds!) The way it works, is if you use the uninstall from the Oblivion disk. that leaves some stuff behind in the registry. By rebooting those entries get flagged by the Operating system as 'orphan' entries , meaning they no longer have a program installed that they were associated with. As part of its cleaning, ccleaner automatically deletes those orphans. Then when you reboot again, those entries are completely removed. I, and the maker of ccleaner recommend backing up your registry anyway before doing anything to it. So you can restore it to it's original condition if anything does go wrong. A system restore point includes the registry in its archive. If you do have a problem (not very likely) you can restore back to that exact state, including the registry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloa2 Posted December 18, 2009 Author Share Posted December 18, 2009 Yes, if you directly edit the registry, and make a mistake, it can make your computer unbootable. That's why I recommend using ccleaner as a part of my complete uninstall/reinstall and NOT directly going into the registry yourself. It's a safe way of cleaning the registry, and much much faster than doing it manually. (My last cclean took all of twelve seconds!) The way it works, is if you use the uninstall from the Oblivion disk. that leaves some stuff behind in the registry. By rebooting those entries get flagged by the Operating system as 'orphan' entries , meaning they no longer have a program installed that they were associated with. As part of its cleaning, ccleaner automatically deletes those orphans. Then when you reboot again, those entries are completely removed. I, and the maker of ccleaner recommend backing up your registry anyway before doing anything to it. So you can restore it to it's original condition if anything does go wrong. A system restore point includes the registry in its archive. If you do have a problem (not very likely) you can restore back to that exact state, including the registry. ok thanks i will try this ccleaner thing, but how do i back up my registry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts