Extreme Load Order

[UserJM]

Hello TES Nexus community! Well, as you can see this is my first Thread asking help, the last month i have downloaded lots of mods and looking arround for bug fixes for preventing posting a new thread about something i can search and find, but now i have a big problem and can't find a solution for this:

 

I have installed lots of mods and now i get my Loading Screen (After Logos) freezed, i know this is due to Load Order, but i have too much mods, BOSS can't sort it all out, so please, can anyone help me to re-order this and/or give me any suggestions?.

 

 

LOAD ORDER:

 

Oblivion.esm
AWS-Core.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
MD_Saddle_Master.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
FCOM_Convergence.esm
Armamentarium.esm
Artifacts.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp
FCOM_Francescos.esp
FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp
FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp
Fran Armor Add-on.esp
Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp
AWS-ShiveringIsles.esp
PJs Lightning Strikes.esp
Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp
Immersive Combat Music.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp
BlackLuster.esp
StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp
Armamentium female.esp
Dude Wheres My Horse.esp
MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp
HRMHorseCommands.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
ExnemRuneskulls.esp
FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp
FCOM_AyleidCoinDelev.esp
Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp
FCOM_Cobl.esp
Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
FCOM_BobsArmory.esp
Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp
Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
FCOM_WarCry.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp
ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp
FCOM_Convergence.esp
FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp
FCOM_RealSwords.esp
FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp
FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp
FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp
FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp
FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp
FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp
FCOM_Archery.esp
FCOM_ArcheryArmamentarium.esp
FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp
FCOM_ArcheryHunting&Crafting.esp
FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp
FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp
FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp
TIE In.esp
TIE In - ExnemRuneskulls.esp
TIE In - Cobl.esp
TIE In - FCOM Convergence.esp
TIE In - RealSwords.esp
TIE In - MMM Gems.esp
TIE In - MMM Craft.esp
TIE In - DiverseGuardUnity.esp
TIE In - BobsGuardUnity.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp
ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp
Fransfemale.esp
MMM-Cobl.esp
Artifacts.esp
Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp
BravilSeaDomes.esp
Servant of the Dawn.esp
Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp
Knights_fem.esp
TIE In - Knights.esp
FCOM_Knights.esp
FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp
JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp
FCOM_FighterGUnited.esp
FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp
NPC new clothes V2.6.esp
FCOM_NewNPCClothes.esp
HelmetFOV.esp
P1DkeyChain.esp
TIE In - DLCOrrery.esp
TIE In - DLCThievesDen.esp
TIE In - DLCFrostcrag.esp
NoBackwardsRunning.esp
RealisticForceMedium.esp
RealisticMagicForceLow.esp
LTDVampireOverhaul.esp
sr_spell_deletion.esp
DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
CuteElf11.esp
DemonRace.esp
Elves Of Lineage II.esp
IDKRRR_C_race.esp
Chocolate Elves.esp
AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp
Ren+Exnem+Cosmetic.esp
Comprehensive Style Collection RM.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
English Silent Voice Fix.esp

 

OBSE Plugins:

 

Elys Universal Silent Voice

Enchanced Music Control (for Immersive Combat Music)

Fast Exit 2

weOPCS (That oblivion crash prevention)

 

:thanks:

[ptbptb]

I have installed lots of mods and now i get my Loading Screen (After Logos) freezed, i know this is due to Load Order, but i have too much mods, BOSS can't sort it all out, so please, can anyone help me to re-order this and/or give me any suggestions?.

 

The punchline is "Well, I wouldn't start from here."

 

Seriously, what happens is that you add a mod, play a bit, add a mod, play a bit and when it stops working you remove the last mod you added.

 

Unfortunately I don't think BOSS keeps a backup of the order you used to have before using it. Therefore it is essential to backup your current (working) order before playing around with BOSS.

 

If you added a whole bunch of mods at once, or if you used BOSS without backing up a copy of your old load order you may be in for a world of pain. (Sorry)

 

This sort of situation is also why I very strongly recommend taking a clean copy of the Data folder after adding official patches but before adding any mods. I also recommend using (creating if necessary) .omod versions of mods as it makes it a lot easier to manage (add/remove) them.

 

You may find the thread mentioned in my .sig interesting. You can at least note down which .esp files / mods BOSS did not recognize.

[UserJM]

What about unchecking all the .ESP, and test one by one?. But keeping all the FCOM stuff checked, because everything was fine when i just installed FCOM.

[ptbptb]

What about unchecking all the .ESP, and test one by one?. But keeping all the FCOM stuff checked, because everything was fine when i just installed FCOM.

 

Worth a try. It might not work because mods are more than .esp files but I'm not sure about that.

[UserJM]

Working with all DLC, SI and Unofficial Patches, now starting to test one by one...

[UserJM]

Managed to get all of this activated:

 

Active Mod Files:

•  00 Oblivion.esm 

•  01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm 

•  02 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33] 

•  03 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  04 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3] 

•  05 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.3a] 

•  06 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 

•  07 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 

•  08 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 

•  09 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] 

•  0A Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp 

•  0B Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp 

•  0C Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp 

•  0D Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp 

•  0E Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp 

•  0F Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp 

•  10 FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  11 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  12 DLCHorseArmor.esp 

•  13 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 

•  14 DLCOrrery.esp 

•  15 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] 

•  16 DLCVileLair.esp 

•  17 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 

•  18 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 

•  19 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 

•  1A DLCSpellTomes.esp 

•  1B DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] 

•  1C DLCThievesDen.esp 

•  1D DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 

•  1E DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] 

•  1F FCOM_AyleidCoinDelev.esp 

•  20 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp 

•  21 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  22 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp 

•  23 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3] 

•  24 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33] 

•  25 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3] 

•  26 FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2] 

•  27 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  28 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  29 Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  2A FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  2B FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  2C Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  2D Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  2E Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  2F Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  30 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  31 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  32 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  33 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  34 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  35 FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  36 FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  37 FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  38 FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  39 FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  3A FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  3B TIE In.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  3C TIE In - FCOM Convergence.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  3D TIE In - MMM Gems.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  3E TIE In - MMM Craft.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  3F TIE In - DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  40 TIE In - BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  41 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  42 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 

•  43 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 

•  44 DLCFrostcrag.esp 

•  45 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 

•  46 Knights.esp 

•  47 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 

•  48 TIE In - Knights.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  49 FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3] 

•  4A TIE In - DLCOrrery.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  4B TIE In - DLCThievesDen.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  4C TIE In - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  4D English Silent Voice Fix.esp 

 

But freezes when i try to activate Francesco's Optional New Items Add-on.

 

Maybe something conflicts with FraNewItems.bsa, also is included in Oblivion.ini.

 

Freezes when activating COBL too.

 

Freezes with Atmospheric Weather System.

 

Freezes with MD Saddlebags.

[ptbptb]

But freezes when i try to activate Francesco's Optional New Items Add-on.

Freezes when activating COBL too.

Freezes with Atmospheric Weather System.

So you need to ask yourself how much you want those.

 

There are more things you can try if you're willing to (quite possibly) waste a lot of time. :confused:

[UserJM]

I have a lot of time ;) . Ill just need to search arround and maybe start with some suggestions ;D .

 

Meanwhile ill keep testing the other ESPs...

[ptbptb]

I have a lot of time ;) . Ill just need to search arround and maybe start with some suggestions ;D .

 

Meanwhile ill keep testing the other ESPs...

 

Well, one idea might be to start from a 'clean' Data folder and adding the ones that crashed earlier (as early as possible). The re-add the ones that you had installed before. That way you might find out what mod it is that is causing trouble with the ones that crashed.

 

Also, just starting from a clean copy of the Data folder might make some of your problems disappear.

 

If you have the patience then conversion of mods to .omod form and increased use of OBMM might be a good idea too.

[mooncarver]

Managed to get all of this activated:

 

Active Mod Files:

•  00 Oblivion.esm 

•  01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm 

•  02 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33] 

•  03 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  04 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3] 

•  05 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.3a] 

•  06 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 

•  07 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 

•  08 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 

•  09 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] 

•  0A Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp 

•  0B Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp 

•  0C Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp 

•  0D Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp 

•  0E Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp 

•  0F Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp 

•  10 FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  11 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  12 DLCHorseArmor.esp 

•  13 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 

•  14 DLCOrrery.esp 

•  15 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] 

•  16 DLCVileLair.esp 

•  17 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 

•  18 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 

•  19 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 

•  1A DLCSpellTomes.esp 

•  1B DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] 

•  1C DLCThievesDen.esp 

•  1D DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 

•  1E DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] 

•  1F FCOM_AyleidCoinDelev.esp 

•  20 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp 

•  21 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  22 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp 

•  23 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3] 

•  24 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33] 

•  25 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3] 

•  26 FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2] 

•  27 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  28 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  29 Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  2A FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  2B FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  2C Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  2D Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  2E Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  2F Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  30 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  31 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  32 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  33 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  34 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  35 FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  36 FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  37 FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  38 FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  39 FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  3A FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9] 

•  3B TIE In.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  3C TIE In - FCOM Convergence.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  3D TIE In - MMM Gems.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  3E TIE In - MMM Craft.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  3F TIE In - DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  40 TIE In - BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  41 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 

•  42 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 

•  43 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 

•  44 DLCFrostcrag.esp 

•  45 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 

•  46 Knights.esp 

•  47 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 

•  48 TIE In - Knights.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  49 FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3] 

•  4A TIE In - DLCOrrery.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  4B TIE In - DLCThievesDen.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  4C TIE In - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 1.2b] 

•  4D English Silent Voice Fix.esp 

 

But freezes when i try to activate Francesco's Optional New Items Add-on.

 

Maybe something conflicts with FraNewItems.bsa, also is included in Oblivion.ini.

 

Freezes when activating COBL too.

 

Freezes with Atmospheric Weather System.

 

Freezes with MD Saddlebags.

 

regarding francesco: after activating the optional items and creatures .esp's, my game crashed as well. i guess you have to download the huge addon file, which you may find here: http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View...tail&id=268

so if you haven't done this already, give it a try.