Weapons Of Oblivion: Spears

[the lone knight]

well i always knew there werent spears in oblivion until i did the coc testinghall and saw a wabbajack. i stared at it and thought..thats a spear...so i try to kill an imperial guard with it, turns him into a sheep. thus, now i know what a wabbajack spell does.

 

p.s. there are throwing stars in oblivion, called azuras stars. look them up! :happy:

 

 

 

 

 

 

happy travelings,

 

the lone knight

[Giggsy]

Oblivion Community!

Are you saying it is impossible to add a spear-type weapon into the game because of the animations?

Why? Is it so hard to animate/create animations?

It only needs a good stabbing animation, and a power stab animation.

Well, I'm just starting my modding journey, so I don't really know how hard stuff like this is, but I would appreciate an explanation why it is so hard, to get spears into the game :)

 

Thanks for your time :)

[Vagrant0]

Oblivion Community!

Are you saying it is impossible to add a spear-type weapon into the game because of the animations?

Why? Is it so hard to animate/create animations?

It only needs a good stabbing animation, and a power stab animation.

Well, I'm just starting my modding journey, so I don't really know how hard stuff like this is, but I would appreciate an explanation why it is so hard, to get spears into the game :)

 

Thanks for your time :)

It isn't creating new animations so much as getting them linked to a new weapon type, and having that new weapon type somehow registered with a skill. Since weapon types are hard coded, and cannot be changed or added to, this cannot be done without overwriting an existing animation group currently used by one of the existing weapon types. This means that in order to add a spear, you would need to replace ALL the 2hand weapon animations with ones suited to a spear type weapon, then go through and change all the 2 handed weapons to look right when using that animation... Never mind the fact that you would have blunt and bladed spears since blunt 2hand weapons use the same animations as bladed 2 hand weapons. You cannot use the staff type weapons since these aren't tied to any weapon skill, so will never do any physical damage, furthermore, within the CS all staffs use target based enchantments, so you could not even make a spearlike staff with a damage health enchantment without it being range based.

 

Simply put, it cannot be done without totally vulking everything up royally. Mods do have spear type weapons, but they are used like standard 2 hand weapons.

[Giggsy]

ah, ok, I see.

so in order to actually get correctly functionly spears in the game, with right stabbing animations that do damage,a completely new weapon "base" would be made.I see. Thank you for this, Vagrant0.

 

And thanks for your time :)

[Sypron]

What you may have missed in Vagrants post is that making the new weapons base is the impossible part, that's hard-coded. But I don't have a problem with that. Sure, it would be NICE for bethesda to have given us that ability, but they probably had a decent enough reason not to. They don't make the game based around satisfying modders, they just decide to provide us with the means to.

[Giggsy]

Sypron : Hello :) Yes, I got the idea that it would be impossible to do. My post wasn't ment to be smuck or have any negative thoughts implanted. I think it is sad that there are no spears, but I can live without them, and will not try to do this. I wouldn't only fail, I would super-über fail.Infact, it makes me laugh , haha.

 

I am doing some modding now, and I've done aclub and a sword/cutlass like weapon.

 

Thanks for your time :)