Experiencing CTD's during Intro

[CthuLuke]

I keep experiencing random CTD's during the Intro of Skyrim, usually around the time I get off the carriage and am called forward, but a lot of times get passed that and am able to play quite a bit before a CTD.

 

Here is my Load Order, anyone got any idea why? All my Mods are clean and I use LOOT to sort the order out, with the exception of Manually rearranging some myself:

 

(0) Skyrim.esm

(1) Update.esm

(2) Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

(3) Dawnguard.esm

(4) Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

(5) HearthFires.esm

(6) Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

(7) Dragonborn.esm

(8 ) Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

(9) ApachiiHair.esm

(10) VHVP.esm

(11) TouringCarriages.esp

(12) FreckleMania.esp

(13) CharacterMakingExtender.esp

(14) Fhaarkas Font Mod - SkyUI.esp

(15) Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp

(16) DragonFire.esp

(17) abotFiresHurt.esp

(18) Sit Anywhere.esp

(19) Beards.esp

(20) argonianraptor.esp

(21) DragonBoneEbonsteel.esp

(22) Brows.esp

(23) AMatterOfTime.esp

(24) ShootingStars.esp

(25) Brawl Bugs CE.esp

(26) AFT_NoDances.esp

(27) CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp

(28) DragonFire-Dragonborn.esp

(29) StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp

(30) ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

(31) Convenient Horses.esp

(32) Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp

(33) dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

(34) Dead Body Collision.esp

(35) Dovahkiin prayer.esp

(36) DSAMG - Greybeard Fix.esp

(37) Duel - Combat Realism.esp

(38) ELFX - Exteriors.esp

(39) EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp

(40) EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

(41) AOS.esp

(42) dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

(43) dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

(44) Clanking Armor.esp

(45) ELFX - Dragonborn.esp

(46) SFO - Dragonborn.esp

(47) ELFX - Dawnguard.esp

(48) Book Covers Skyrim.esp

(49) Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

(50) ELFXEnhancer.esp

(51) SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

(52) One With Nature - DG+DB.esp

(53) SoS - The Wilds.esp

(54) getSnowy.esp

(55) EpisodeParallax.esp

(56) ImmersiveFP.esp

(57) Footprints.esp

(58) DSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.esp

(59) SplashofRain.esp

(60) Headtracking.esp

(61) SkyUI.esp

(62) iHUD.esp

(63) Immersive Interiors.esp

(64) SoS - Civilization.esp

(65) Civil War Overhaul.esp

(66) Birdsofskyrim.esp

(67) DeadlyDragons.esp

(68) Dr_Bandolier.esp

(69) StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp

(70) mintylightningmod.esp

(71) MoreSnowWindy.esp

(72) Player Size Adjuster.esp

(73) randomthunder.esp

(74) realrainextended.esp

(75) SoS - The Dungeons.esp

(76) skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp

(77) RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

(78) RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

(79) SoundPropagationOverhaul DSAMG Patch.esp

(80) SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

(81) StaticMeshImprovementMod-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp

(82) The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

(83) TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

(84) Thundering Shouts.esp

(85) TimingIsEverything.esp

(86) towConversation.esp

(87) WATER DG.esp

(88) WATER.esp

(89) WetandCold.esp

(90) WetandCold - Holidays.esp

(91) BFT Ships and Carriages - HF.esp

(92) BloodyFacials.esp

(93) WATER DB Waves.esp

(94) RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp

(95) MVABasic.esp

(96) Cloaks.esp

(97) 1nivWICCloaks.esp

(98) Immersive Interiors - ELFXEnhancer Patch.esp

(99) StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

(100) 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

(101) ACE Enchanting.esp

(102) ImprovedFishBASIC.esp

(103) 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp

(104) RND_USKP-Patch.esp

(105) Spousetocustomhome.esp

(106) TheChoiceIsYours.esp

(107) ACE Archery.esp

(108) Armored Skeleton.esp

(109) Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp

(110) HorsesGoneWild.esp

(111) ACE Melee.esp

(112) Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

(113) Chesko_Frostfall.esp

(114) RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp

(115) RND_AnimalLoot.esp

(116) Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp

(117) RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp

(118) WhiterunInEnhanced.esp

(119) ACE Smithing.esp

(120) RiverwoodEnhancedPlugin.esp

(121) Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp

(122) ACE Armor.esp

(123) WATER Plants.esp

(124) WellsOfSkyrimRND.esp

(125) HoldBorderBanners.esp

(126) Hunterborn.esp

(127) alcoholiceffect.esp

(128) Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp

(129) ACE Speech.esp

(130) Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp

(131) Equipping Overhaul.esp

(132) Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp

(133) Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

(134) Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp

(135) TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp

(136) AE_animation_ENG.esp

(137) DDD-Passtime.esp

(138) ACE Synergy.esp

(139) Real Clouds.esp

(140) dovahkiinrelax.esp

(141) ACE BYOG.esp

(142) ACE Magic.esp

(143) ACE Realistic Fighting.esp

(144) Dual Sheath Redux.esp

(145) Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

Edited May 18, 2014 by ArmatageShanks

[Leubast]

Well, I only have one thing to say: "Who do people have 100+ mods when mine can only get 70-80 and be on the edge?"

[JobVanDam]

Depends how script intensive the mods are. I got 170+ mods and my game runs amazing.

[Markmid]

-edit As well as the below
Have you tried the memory patch?
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50305/?

 

 

Sorry for only the generic fix.

Using the mod manager:

1, Disable half your mods, see if you find the culprit.

 

1A If you have found the one causing the issues, renable half of the ones you disabled, keep doing it in halves till you narrow down the exact mod. It can take a little while but its much quicker than doing them individually. Remember the ones you've tried.

 

1B If you haven't found the culprit, mark down the last one you disabled, then disable half of the ones left. See if you find the culprit. Again do this in halves, same process but in reverse.

 

At first - I prefer to keep disabling more mods to test not renable them till I find out which one it is, as it's remotely possible sometimes it's 2 mods but in my years of modding, it's nearly ever only one conflicting with another, it just removes that possibility for you. Thankfully its happening early in your game so you won't have to test much. Then you can get advice on that particular mod.

Hope it helps. - NB it seems the best way to test is to repeatedly start new games for you? I'd also be tempted to try the big ones like the overhauls, realistic needs, real clouds and SoS first.

Edited May 19, 2014 by Markmid

[michaelkenner]

Don't forget to go over the list manually in NMM, checking the master files on each and make sure that any required masters are earlier in the load order. Theoretically LOOT should pick these up, but sometimes it's best to take a look manually.

 

Just from a list of the names it's hard to get the required details, particularly since I haven't run some of those mods myself yet.

 

However is 87 and 88 in the wrong order? This is just a guess from the filenames, but I would suspect that "Water" is the main ESP and that "Water DG" extends it for DawnGuard DLC. Having WATER DG first in the load-list might be wrong. (This is purely a guess but it's the only suggestion I can really offer from a quick visual check). If I'm correct, that would be enough to cause a CTD error, although I could be wrong and it's also possible that it might not be the only conflict in the load order.

 

Edit: Thinking about it a bit more, it doesn't necessarily sound like a load-order problem. Load order CTD are usually instantly on game-load, rather than allowing you to play and crashing in game. That's usually more of an issue with memory usage. Are you running some form of memory patch to get around the 256kb memory allocation issue?

Edited May 19, 2014 by michaelkenner