Oblivion Robe Trader invisible hands

[Timarot]

Download this mod from slof hive and actually got a strange problem - on some robes(like gray robe or necromantic one) male player character has no hands and Sheogorath has pretty nasty clipping of feet through his boots) I use average robert male body so there shouldn't be any problems...

I did archive invalidation(BSA redirection exectly) and it still doesn't help... Is there a fixed esp somewhere or I do semowhat wrong?

[Timarot]

Yeh, I know no bump rules, but I get some new info on my problem...

 

Rechecked esp and files - strange part is that now I understand that game load wrong models for problematic robes. Not the one it supposed to. Esp is allright and models are right but somehow models that loads are off. For example instead of Syl male version(added by mod) game load fem Thadon vercion. So now I'm really startled. What can be the reason? Can it be Wrye Bash problem? O_o

[The_Vyper]

The "invisible hands" issue could be caused by and incorrect setup of the robes in question. Clothing items have certain slots that are selectable in the CS. These are: Head, Hair, Upper Body, Lower Body, Hand, Foot, Right Ring, Left Ring, Amulet, Weapon, Back Weapon, Side weapon, Quiver, Shield, Torch, & Tail (in that order). If you have a robe that only covers the upper & lower body areas, then only the Upper Body & Lower Body slots should be checked in the CS. If Player/NPC hands are invisible when wearing a robe that doesn't cover them, it may be that the Hand slot has also been selected on the robe.

[Timarot]

Rechecked through Tes4 Edit. Here is something much funnier - yes, there are hand slots set for this robes, BUT it not set in esp itself. Like for example "Syl dress" cover feet, lowerbody and upperbody in esp, but also begin to cover hands in game itself(by the way, this dress DO cover hands in vanilla). Look like there is a conflict comewhere. Maybe even with bash patch itself.

 

Pretty interesting situation...

Hmm, which mod can overwrite robes slots... Here is load order:

BOSS
Version 2.3.0


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Summary
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Plugin Type Count
Recognised (or sorted by user rules) 170
Unrecognised 0
Inactive 31
All 170


Plugin Message Type Count
Warning 0
Error 0
All 98


* Masterlist updated; at revision: 9693e321c.


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User Rules
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Rule Applied Details (if applicable)
Sort "_No_ persistant enchantment glow fix-1843.esp" after "Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp" ✓
Sort "DLCHorseArmor OCOv2 patch.esp" after "_No_ persistant enchantment glow fix-1843.esp" ✓



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OBSE Plugins
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OBSE Version: 0.0.20.6

Better Cities Helper.dll Version: 1.0.0.908

Blockhead.dll Version: 8.1.6.1225

MenuQue.dll

NifSE.dll

OBGEv2.dll Version: 2.0.0.0

obse_jail_fix.dll

OBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue.dll

obse_training_fix.dll

sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll Version: 4.1.26.0

weOCPS.dll


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Recognised Plugins
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These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

Oblivion.esm Active

All Natural Base.esm Version 1.34 Active

Cobl Main.esm Version 1.72 Active
* Note: Do not use Tamrielic Ingredients and COBL at the same time.


Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm Version 1.35Beta Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.Spells, Graphics, Invent, Relations, Scripts, Stats}}
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): Remove [Relations] tag, when used as part of FCOM or with MMM for OOO. More info("http://u.to/PCQMAg")
* Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.


Mart's Monster Mod.esm Version 3.8b1 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Spells, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}


Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm Version 0.9.9MB8b1 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Factions, Relations, Relev}}


Kvatch Rebuilt.esm Version 2.x Active

Better Cities Resources.esm Version 5.4.1 Active

HorseCombatMaster.esm Active

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Version 3.4.4 Active
* Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here: "http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/28537"
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood, Delev, Factions, Invent, NPC.Class, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}} and remove [C.Water] tag(s) (only exist in older version).


DLCShiveringIsles.esp Active

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Version 1.5.2 Active
* Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here: "http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/28537"
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Name, C.Owner, Delev, Factions, Invent, Names, Relev, Scripts, Stats, Relations}}


Better Cities .esp Active
* Note: Dummy file to load Better Cities .BSA


Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}


All Natural.esp Version 1.34 Active
* Note: Required for All Natural. Make sure this is active and not just imported into your Bashed Patch.
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Climate, MustBeActiveIfImported}}


All Natural - SI.esp Version 1.34 Active
* Note: Required for All Natural SI support. Make sure this is active and not just imported into your Bashed Patch.
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Climate, MustBeActiveIfImported}}


All Natural - Real Lights.esp Version 1.34 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics, MustBeActiveIfImported, Scripts}}
* Note: Do not use with original Real Lights mod.


WindowLightingSystem.esp Active

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}


Enhanced Economy.esp Version 5.4.3 Active
* Incompatible with: Living Economy.


Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp Version 0.42 Active

DLCHorseArmor.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Scripts}}


DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.8 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Owner}}


DLCOrrery.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages}}


DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.5 Active

DLCVileLair.esp Active

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.9 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}


DLCMehrunesRazor.esp Active

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.6 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Invent, Relev}}


DLCSpellTomes.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}


DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.1
* Incompatible with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.


EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics, NoMerge}}
* Note: For Vanilla, do not use with OOO/MMM/FCOM, use that version instead.


Gypsy_Clothes.esp Active

Weapon Improvement Project.esp Version 1.7

Robert SinfulMage.esp Active

Slof's Horses Base.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}


DLCThievesDen.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Name, C.Light, Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Stats}}


DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.11 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.Stats, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Relev}}


Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}


Cobl Glue.esp Version 1.72 Active

Cobl Si.esp Version 1.63 Active
* Requires: Shivering Isles expansion.


Cobl Tweaks.esp Version 1.44

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp Version 1.35Beta Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.Spells, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, R.ChangeSpells, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): Remove [Factions, Relations] tag, when used as part of FCOM or with MMM for OOO. More info("http://u.to/PCQMAg")
* Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.


OOO-Water_Weeds.esp Version 1.33

OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp Version 1.33 Active
* Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.


OOO-BirthSigns.esp Version 1.33
* Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.


OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp Version 1.33 Active
* Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.


OOO-DaedraLord_Quests.esp Version 1.33 Active
* Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.


OOO-Dangerous_Traps.esp Version 1.33
* Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.


OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp Version 1.33 Active
* Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.


OOO-DLT_Immersion.esp Version 1.33 Active
* Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.


OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp Version 1.33 Active
* Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.


OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp Version 1.33 Active
* Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.


OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp Version 1.33 Active
* Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.


OOO-Potions.esp Version 1.33
* Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.


OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp Version 1.33 Active
* Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.


OMOBS_SI.esp Version 2.0
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NoMerge, Stats}}


OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp Version 1.72 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Invent}}


Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp Version 0.9.9MB8b1 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}


Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp Version 3.8b1
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}


CurseOfHircine.esp Version 20 Active

CoH Werewolves Mixed.esp Active

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp Version 3.7b7 Active
* Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.


Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp Version 3.8b1

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp Version 3.8b1 Active
* Note: Use either 'More Wilderness Life' or 'More Wilderness Life No Gates' but not both.


Mart's Monster Mod - Curse of Hircine.esp Version 3.8b1 Active

Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp Version 3.8b1 Active

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp Version 3.8b1 Active

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp Version 3.8b1 Active

Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp Version 0.90
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}


Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp Version 3.8b1
* Requires: Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul.
* Requires: MMMforOOO or FCOM.
* Incompatible with: MMM Gems & Gem Dust.
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}


Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Wisp and VASE Addon.esp Version 3.8b1

Mart's Monster Mod - RadiantAITweaks.esp

KDCircletsOOOOptimized - Loot Only.esp Version 1.2 Active
* Note: Avoid using Potion Belt and KD Circlets at the same time. Character can wear belt or circlet, not both.


EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp Version 1.33.
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics, NoMerge}}
* Note: For OOO, do not use with MMM/FCOM or EVE_stockequipmentreplacer.esp.


EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics, NoMerge}}
* Note: For MMM, do not use with OOO/FCOM or EVE_stockequipmentreplacer.esp


Kvatch Rebuilt.esp Version 2.1.3 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages, Invent}}


Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp Active

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp Active

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.8 Active

Artificerens Battlehorn Coblized.esp Active

DLCFrostcrag.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Name, C.Owner, Factions}}


Kvatch Rebuilt_Frostcrag.esp Active

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.8 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood}} and remove [C.Climate, C.Light] tags


DLCFrostcragCoblAddons.esp Active

Knights.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations}}


Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.1.3 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations}}


EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics, NoMerge}}


Knights - Cobl.esp Version 2.6 Active

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp Version 0.9.9MB8b1
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Relations, Relev, Stats}}


Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Knights of Nine.esp

DLC_MOBS.esp Version 2.0
* Note: Don't use BattleHorn_MOBS.esp, VileLair_MOBS.esp, MehrunesRazor_MOBS.esp, Knights_MOBS.esp or ThievesDen_MOBS.esp if using this as this includes all those.
* Note: Recommended to use version 2.0 or greater: "http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/28537"
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Deactivate, Filter, Stats, NoMerge}}


TOTF.esp Version 1.22 Active

xuldarkforest.esp Version 1.0.5 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Music, C.Water}}


xulStendarrValley.esp Version 1.2.2 Active

xulTheHeath.esp Active

xulEntiusGorge.esp Version 1.2.1 Active

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp Version 1.3.1 Active

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp Version 1.2.2 Active

xulChorrolHinterland.esp Version 1.2.3 Active

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp Version 1.6.5 Active
* Note: Make sure version is 1.6.3 or later.


xulBravilBarrowfields.esp Version 1.3.4 Active

xulLushWoodlands.esp Version 1.3.2 Active

xulAncientYews.esp Version 1.4.4 Active

xulAncientRedwoods.esp Version 1.6 Active

xulCloudtopMountains.esp Version 1.0.3 Active

xulArriusCreek.esp Version 1.1.4 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Water}}


xulPatch_AY_AC.esp Version 1.1 Active

xulRollingHills_EV.esp Version 1.3.3 Active
* Note: Only use one UL Rolling Hills plugin.


xulPantherRiver.esp Version 1.1.1 Active

xulRiverEthe.esp Version 1.0.2 Active

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp Version 1.1.1 Active

xulImperialIsle.esp Version 1.6.8 Active

xulBlackwoodForest.esp Version 1.1.0 Active

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp Version 1.0.1 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Water}}


TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp Active

KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp Active

xulAspenWood.esp Version 1.0.2 Active

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp Version 1.0.2 Active

xulSnowdale.esp Version 1.0.5 Active

OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp Version 1.1 Active

xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp Version 1.12 Active

OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp Version 1.2 Active

xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp Version 1.0.3 Active

xulJerallGlacier.esp Version 1.0.1 Active

OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp Version 1.0 Active

CurseofHircine-JerallGlacier patch.esp Version 1.0 Active

xulTheEasternPeaks.esp Version 1.0 Active

Better Cities - House price patch.esp Version 1.0 Active

Harvest [Flora].esp Version 3.0.0 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics, Scripts}}
* Note: Make sure you have v3.0.1 or later, which removes a CTD bug with the Harrada root.


Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp Version 3.0.0
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics, Scripts}}


Better Dungeons.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Light, C.Water}}


HUD Status Bars.esp Version 5.3.2 Active
* Requires: OBSE and MenuQue


Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp

SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp Active

Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp Version 5.4.3 Active

MidasSpells.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Invent}}


FrostcragMidasLab.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Invent}}


Midas Assimulator Addon - Oscuro.esp Active

Midas Assimulator Addon - Shivering.esp Active

Soolie'sBetterEnchantmentEffects.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp Active
* Note: Use no more than one Timed Block plugin.


Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp Active

OOO-Level_Slow.esp Version 1.33

CTAddPose_Pinups.esp Active

CTAddPose_Pinups_2.esp Active

CTAddPose_Halo.esp Active

CTAddPose_Pinups_3.esp Active

The Uguu Poser.esp Active

SP1stPLegs.esp Active

Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp Version 2.0 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Eyes, NpcFaces, R.Head, R.Mouth}}


_No_ persistant enchantment glow fix-1843.esp

DLCHorseArmor OCOv2 patch.esp

Better Cities Full.esp Version 5.4.1 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Water}}


Better Imperial City.esp Version 5.4.0 Active

Better Cities - All Natural.esp Version 5.3.0 Active

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp Version 1.3 Active

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp Version 1.3 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Water}}


Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp Version 5.3.0 Active

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp Version 1.4 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Water}}


Better Cities - Unique Landscape Panther River patch.esp Version 1.4 Active

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp Version 5.3.0 Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Water}}


Better Cities - COBL.esp Version 5.4.1

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp Version 5.3.0 Active

DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}
* Requires: NifSE ("http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/21292")
* Requires: Drop Lit Torches OBSE ("http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/16282")
* Note: For use both DR6b101 and NifSE 1.0+ use fix ("http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/40336")


Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp

Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp Version 01 Active

All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp Version 1.34
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Filter, C.Climate, Deactivate, NoMerge}}


Bashed Patch.esp Version 22 Active

 

Edited May 30, 2014 by Timarot