OOO + MMM, a few problems.

[VIadmir]

Well, when i heard about the FCOM convergence i thought "I must have it!". After 3 unsuccessful installations i gave up, and decided to settle for OOO + MMM. I did my research and i think i installed everything properly. This is the step-by-step process of what i did. I started with a clean install, followed by SI, KoTN and the SI patch (SHIVERING ISLES PATCH v1.2.0416 ). I then installed 1.33 OOO and patched it up with 1.34 beta 5. Then i proceeded to installing MMM 3.7 beta 3 (followed all the instructions. Extracted the "bsa" file into oblivion/data and took all the necessary .esp files from the .7zip file + add-ons. Used the BOSS and obmm to figure out and sort the load order.

 

THE PROBLEM: about once every 20-30 minutes the game crashes. I do not know why i haven't noticed any environmental similarities prior to the crash. If i had made a save shortly before the crash, the file becomes corrupted. But this is not the real problem. I do not mind occasional crashed once in a while, they are usually expected when you combine different mods + upgrades. The real problem i am experiencing, and it may be tied in with the crashes is that the "Ghost Apparitions", when they pass through me, paralyze me indefinitely. The spell timer runs out in about 2.5 hours after being paralyzed, but the effect does not disappear, no matter how much i wait. This is clearly a problem with the MMM but i do not know how to fix it.

 

My load order is as follows:

 

Oblivion.esm

 

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent,Stats,Relations}}

 

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent,Relations}}

 

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm

 

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

 

DLCHorseArmor.esp

 

DLCOrrery.esp

 

DLCVileLair.esp

 

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

 

DLCSpellTomes.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relev}}

 

DLCThievesDen.esp

 

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Delev,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Stats}}

 

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent,Factions,Relations}}

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp

. Note: Use either 'More Wilderness Life' or 'More Wilderness Life No Gates' but not both.

 

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp

. Note: Not compatible with Slof's Horses or Slof's Extra Horses.

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp

. Note: Requires OOO.esm

. Note: Requires MMMforOOO or FCOM.

. Note: Not compatible with MMM Gems & Gem Dust.

 

OOO-WaterFish.esp

 

DLCFrostcrag.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Owner}}

 

Knights.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp

 

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Any help will be greatly appreciated. I have been trying to play this amazing game for so long (this is my third day of installations. I literally spent the majority of yesterday and the day before trying to get FCOM to work) and it is very frustrating that i still cant enjoy it.

[VIadmir]

Okay, so i tired reinstalling MMM, this time i installed it through OBMM, rather than manually. I than reloaded my savegame with the ghostly apparition and the same problem still occurs. This is a little frustrating since i cannot do KoTN questline or go to any dungeon with ghostly apparitions....

[VIadmir]

Well still cant fix the problem. I found a semi-pernament solution, to simply use the "kill" console command, but i dont want to have to save every 10 seconds i am in a dungeon, and fear that one of those things will pop-up behind me and paralyze me again.

[Maigrets]

That bug was fixed many versions ago. But the length of time you should remain paralysed depends on your Willpower.

 

At low levels you could be down for 30 seconds or more, but as your Willpower increases you should only be affected for a very short time and if your have high Willpower you should only be knocked down and being able to get right back up.

 

For a bit of extra help getting FCOM running properly go here for a beginner's guide. Once you have it all installed correctly there shouldn't be the issues you're having. The occasional crash is inevitable though the more mods you add and FCOM is the giant among mods so you can expect a few at least.

 

http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/fcominstall.html

[wats6831]

That bug was fixed many versions ago. But the length of time you should remain paralysed depends on your Willpower.

 

At low levels you could be down for 30 seconds or more, but as your Willpower increases you should only be affected for a very short time and if your have high Willpower you should only be knocked down and being able to get right back up.

 

For a bit of extra help getting FCOM running properly go here for a beginner's guide. Once you have it all installed correctly there shouldn't be the issues you're having. The occasional crash is inevitable though the more mods you add and FCOM is the giant among mods so you can expect a few at least.

 

http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/fcominstall.html

 

 

Hello, I have a semi-related question:

 

Does MMM 3.7b3 still require the prior installation of MMM 3.5 as idicated in the excellent devnull.devakm FCOM cheat sheet? Thank you

[Maigrets]

@ wats6831

Yes it does.

 

For more updated info go here to the BGS forums FCOM page.

 

http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.ph...owtopic=1065265

[wats6831]

@ wats6831

Yes it does.

 

For more updated info go here to the BGS forums FCOM page.

 

http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.ph...owtopic=1065265

 

It says to uninstall 3.55 if using 3.7b3. There is a seperate BSA needed for 3.7b3.

[IzzyTheOne]

The Ghostly Aparition paralyzes me for 300 seconds! That's like 6 minutes! What the hell should I do about it?

 

EDIT: I didn't have the patience to wait 30 seconds to see what happens. But the timer showed me 300 seconds at start and the paralyze ended at 270.

[meromex666]

The Ghostly Aparition paralyzes me for 300 seconds! That's like 6 minutes! What the hell should I do about it?

 

EDIT: I didn't have the patience to wait 30 seconds to see what happens. But the timer showed me 300 seconds at start and the paralyze ended at 270.

 

 

I have exactly the asme issue and its really annoying! how do i fix that? even when the thing is dead i get paralize for life just by touching it! i cant even continue the dungeon cuz the corpse there!

 

ps. i have no idea about the bash patch, im using wrye 287, ive tried merging it but that only makes the game not load saved games and i dont really wanna start a new one now!

[EvilOssie]

Waking this up...I have the same problem with being permanently paralyzed (I've waited upwards of 5 minutes Real Time and my char was still down). I have both OOO and MMM up to date, bash patch, etc etc etc. Maigrets say that the bug was fixed some time ago...I'd like to know what/how it was fixed, 'cause it isn't happening in my game. My only solution is to TGM whenever I first hear that gawdawful wail from the Apparition, which isn't a whole lot of fun.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated...I can post my load list upon request, if needed.