Random CTDs - Help Please?

[nxjohnson]

I can't figure out any pattern to where/when I crash. Happens in any location, with anything (or nothing) going on, after minutes or hours of gameplay.

 

My game is completely up to date according to Steam. I have all 3 DLCs, but not the official HD pack.

 

System:

Windows 8.1 64bit

Intel Core i5-4200H (2.8 GHz)

8.00 GB RAM

GeForce 840M (2 GHz onboard)

 

BOSS Log (First time doing this, sorry if the formatting is off):

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Immersive Dragonborn.esp Active

Immersive Factions.esp Active

Immersive Travelers.esp Active

JK Crafting Breakdown.esp Active

JK Crafting Breakdown - Hearthfire.esp Active

Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp Active

Point The Way.esp Version 1.0.2 Active

Skippy's Book Overhaul.esp Active

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NoxUE2.00.esp Active

RaceMenu.esp Active

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StaticMeshImprovementMod-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp Active

CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp Active

 

Any help, feedback, suggestions, etc. will be greatly appreciated. Please let me know if there's any missing info, and I'll be sure to provide it. Many thanks!!

Cheers,

NJ

[nxjohnson]

Bump?

[ripple]

Did BOSS output additional information, like SKSE version, BOSS version, etc.? Can you include that information as well? Also, please list all mods you use which do not come with plugins, like texture or body replacers. Lastly, more details about your CTDs. Are they mostly 'outdoors' in the worldspace? In interior cells?

[darklogrus]

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Version v6.5.2 Active

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Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Version v6.5.2 Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Might be this MoD especially if it was added into a game thats already been started for awhile.

[nxjohnson]

Did BOSS output additional information, like SKSE version, BOSS version, etc.? Can you include that information as well? Also, please list all mods you use which do not come with plugins, like texture or body replacers. Lastly, more details about your CTDs. Are they mostly 'outdoors' in the worldspace? In interior cells?

 

BOSS version 2.3.0

SKSE is up to date. (version 0.1.6.16)

 

I have 2 unrecognized plugins:

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp

CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp

Both of these are at the end of my load order.

 

My crashes mostly seem to happen in the exterior world. They used to happen a lot when I quick traveled, but that has abated somewhat since I turned off autosaves. Other than that, there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to when they happen. It's the "silent" crash - no error messages, pop ups, etc.

 

 

 

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Version v6.5.2 Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Version v6.5.2 Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Might be this MoD especially if it was added into a game thats already been started for awhile.

 

 

I've had this mod going from the start. What's the reason this mod could cause crashes?

 

Thanks again for the help! I'll keep an eye out for further questions/suggestions.

[darklogrus]

A lot of people i talked to who had that MoD reported a huge increase in CTD including myself so I always just point it out just as a word of caution and something you can simply disable and see what happens.

 

Have you installed the memory patch for Skyrim?

 

[ripple]

1) You need to download Wrye Bash and generate a bashed patch. Those mods with 'bash tags suggestions' beside them require it.

 

2) If you are CTDing near the small towns and settlements, you might considering uninstall the 'Immersive..' town mods. They can add an additional stress to your game stability in those areas.

 

3) Try reducing the number of 'Immersive Patrol' plugins you use. Same reason as above (except it's the spawn points for those NPCs rather than the towns).

[nxjohnson]

Getting rid of SIC seems to have worked - I've only had one CTD in the past 8-10 hours of gameplay instead of every 15-20 minutes. Thanks for the tip!

[spookymunky]

Sorry, but I honestly think this is a memory issue like darklogrus mentioned. Removing npc / creature mods is only a temporary fix really. You can test this by installing Memory blocks log .. if your memory usage for block 1 is over 200 when out and about then you have found the issue :smile:. check the vid darklogrus linked to fix it.

 

Edit: By temporary fix I mean hmm, ok you have cleared up 10 or 20 meg or so from memblock 1.. as you continue to play and interact with the world that will get swallowed up in 5 hours or so hehe, complete guestimate :).. from my experience it will fill up though and you will be back to CTDs.. then you look at the next mod that adds exterior edits / npc / whateer hehe... have been down this slippery slope to the point where I was basically running vanilla skyrim ! :)

 

As a side note, remember to rest till a full cell respawn occurs when adding / removing mods as severe as SIC.. by default this is 30 days I think.

Edited June 16, 2014 by spookymunky