Performance problems

[Razielchan]

My hardware setup:

 

Athlon 64 X2 5400+ Black Edition @ 2.8 GHZ, 4GB OCZ Platinum Rev. 2 Ram, 4-4-4-15, His Radeon 4850 512 MB.

 

Oblivion simply works slow. And not in the stuttery way - the statters sometimes do appear, but not too frequently. Outdoors work alright too, unless it's close to the cities (that arc-shaped waterfront building for example), but I'm getting HORRIBLE framerate in parts of cities and with many NPCs. Like the IC Market District. Also, for some reason the stone room in the tutorial part was slow as well (the one where you lose sight of the emperor for the first time), even though back then I had very few mods installed.

 

I've installed the Redimized & Reduced QTP3 pack, but removed it due to even lower FPS.

 

All graphics settings are on max, tested on 1680x1050, 1440x900 & 1280x800. Going down to that last one only marginally improved the situation. Going down to the last one with everything but textures to minimum made the game work perfectly, but it looked like something out of N64. >.>

 

My current load list:

 

Oblivion.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Lattamerv3.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
ChaseCameraMod.esp
P1DseeYouSleep.esp
StandingJOJO.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
1masamune.esp
adelina.esp
ALE_Armure_Legere.esp
ASlof'sBraceletsandClaws.esp
Arynns-Heavenly-Sword_hottest.esp
Baedoona_recurve_bow.esp
BowOfShadows.esp
BridFetishGirl.esp
CapesandCloaks.esp
CET_DwemerPrecisionBow_v2.esp
ColourWheels Sexy Servant Uniform.esp
Dancers clothes.esp
Diano.esp
Nico's Dreadweave Bow and Arrows.esp
HGEC_Draconic_Armor.esp
Growlfs Animated Hair.esp
HentaiDarkLilith.esp
Hentai Compilation.esp
Hentai Mania.esp
HentaiSummerFesta.esp
KADdagirbows.esp
Mirage_Rosewood.esp
Nature's_bounty.esp
Nicos Tabaxi Bows.esp
Nicos Ice Bow.esp
Doomshard Bow.esp
RingOfWings v3.esp
SickleIrons_RT.esp
Slof's Boners! v5.esp
SpeedBuster Collection.esp
Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp
Taokaka am.esp
The Bow of Daedric Blood.esp
The Bow of the Mongolian Horseman.esp
The Bow of Thorns.esp
The Soul Reaver.esp
Warglaives by Jojjo v1.0.esp
MHSNKirin.esp
HGEC_SBBewitching.esp
HGECUndiesHCup.esp
0FDemonSet.esp
R18PN - Lingeries.esp
R18PN - Mizugi set.esp
Argent Iron Armor.esp
DianoArmor2.esp
Hentai_LovelySuits.esp
Blakeley's Lachrymal Bow.esp
SoulReaverMod.esp
Mirage_Bronze.esp
Mirage_Maple.esp
Akorithi's Jade Bow.esp
BisPainBringer.esp
Strap-ons.esp
Joe's Energy Bow.esp
DM-Elite Witch.esp
Lamayo's Dragon Bow.esp
HGEC Varied Breasts.esp
ANBDrapeTop.esp
ElyndasShortSack.esp
dmace.esp
SwordDancer.esp
SoulReaver.esp
DarkWings.esp
Colourwheels_Sexy_Sweetclothes.esp
HGEC Futanari.esp
HGEC_Female_Ninja_Armor.esp
AAbuiesdaqun.esp
HGEC_SBVelvetRose.esp
TrawlolsCorinthianGladiator.esp
alllll61-Tiny Demon suit.esp
Colourwheels Sexy Hentais DarkRose.esp
DesuChan's 02-Shiki Armor Recoloured.esp
DesuChan's Ludicrous Staff.esp
DesuChan's Macabre Dancer.esp
SG002_Button.esp
Ageha Tortured Soul HGEC.esp
R18PN - Dancer's Dress.esp
Cowgirl_HGEC.esp
SG003_Slit.esp
DesuChan's Sennen Ring.esp
Shemale for Robert body.esp
Hentai DarkSisterhoodArmor.esp
The Bow of Ash.esp
Captain_Molly_HGEC.esp
ElvenPrincess.esp
Requiem for Hate.esp
The Bow of Bones.esp
The Bow of the Drow.esp
The Bow of the Hunter.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
LetThePeopleDrink.esp
Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp
bondage_sex.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
BasicInstinct.esp
MidasSpells.esp
CTAddPose_v_1.esp
CTAddPose_OTPair.esp
CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp
CTAddPose_bondage_sex-2.esp
actors_in_charge.esp
77_Umpa_Animation.esp
77_Umpa_Sexy_walk.esp
EFGAddPose.esp
shinyEmotions.esp
OSR_pose.esp
SexyWitchPoses.esp
Slof's Sexy Anims.esp
CTAddPose_gobu.esp
CTAddPose_enfant.esp
CTAddPose_Dsk(erori)Pose.esp
CTAddPose_SPB_01.esp
CTAddPose SPB 02.esp
Chain it!.esp
SetBody.esp
zzEstrus.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
Slof's Snow Leopard Race.esp
Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp
Ahtata_Khabaxi.esp
X.Races.Comp.esp
Kosai's Hellcats.esp
DesuChan's Kawa-Khajiits.esp
SexyDance.esp
Cobl Races.esp
Cobl Races - Balanced.esp
Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp

 

+ a few inactive ones:

-Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

-Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp

-SoulReaverModFix.esp

-Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp

-Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

cya

Raziel-chan

[Vagrant0]

Use fewer visual mods. Your videocard doesn't have enough RAM to handle it. Start off with Vanilla graphics and unaltered .ini (probably cranked up loading distances too didn't you?), get things working and THEN see about adding some small improvements. Smaller non-widescreen resolution would also be a good idea.

[Razielchan]

The problem is that the only visual mod I can think of that I'm using are the 2048x2048 resolution textures for characters. No texture packs or anything, though now I'm testing parallax and normal maps.

 

It was slowing down back when I was using very few mods, HGEC H-cup body without animations and maybe two or three other ones, it was still slowing down in that jail dungeon.

 

Well, in menu settings everything's on max with HDR, no AA but 8x AF.

 

The thing that puzzles me is that I run a fairly modded version of Fallout 3 on the same rig, max settings, AAx2, AFx8 with few problems, Gears of War on max and Crysis on max, although at 1440x900 + AAx2 AFx16. And they all work pretty fast.

 

cya

Raziel-chan

[ytsejam91]

Note that the Oblivion engine it's quite a "resource pig", and running so much mods will furtherly slow it down. Try disabling all your mods (or at least all those animation\sexy mods, never seen so many in a load order :P). Also read TweakGuides - Oblivion. ini (link) to make the game use more of you resources to improve performance.

I may be wrong, but I've heard that the game loads every esp file in "data", even inactive ones, but then it uses only those marked active; so if you want to test the vanilla or semi-vanilla game, you'll have to uninstall the mods properly (OBMM is just a bless in this cases).

[Jenrai]

The problem is that the only visual mod I can think of that I'm using are the 2048x2048 resolution textures for characters. No texture packs or anything, though now I'm testing parallax and normal maps.

 

All the Unique Landscapes set (including the Imperial Isle which will murder your FPS, especially around the waterfront district without a higher end graphics card) and the Natural series by Max are graphical memory glutton "visual" mods.

Might be worth trying Streamline to see if you get a jump. I'd suggest lowpoly grass too but you say your problem is focussed more around the cities and indoors in places.

(apologies if you have both or one or the other. My eyes started to bleed reading that wall of text you call a load order. heh heh)

And from my understanding, Ytse is correct, Oblivion will load up every ESM & ESP, but as it won't use them beyond initial loading, thats only going to slow up loading times (I think... I've been wrong before.)

 

Jenrai

[Razielchan]

Well, gone be UL, welcome Streamline and OSR, gone be some of the ini changes (mainly going from 8x the preloadlimit to 4x and back to 3 and 36 for cell buffers, welcome some mesh optimization packs and the script optimizer. Speedline seems to have made the greatest difference.

 

Still, one peculiar fact - what playing with both task manager and Ati overdrive panel open in the side-display, the CPU is utilized from 50 to 80%, but the gfx card never goes past 4%. ._.; While in Gears of War it often went up to 80-99%.

 

Is my CPU too weak for the game?

 

cya

Raziel-chan

 

Update: Well, with ~8 enemies in a cave I managed to get my card to ~30%, ~35% when i opened the inventory and rapidly started rotating and moving my character's silver light armour-clad minature in it.

[bben46]

Here are my Slow Game suggestions

http://tesnexus.com/articles/article.php?id=255

[Razielchan]

Read that, followed, still the same. Whenever there's more NPCs on the screen, like, more than 3-4, the game slows down significantly. It also slows down slightly when looking up a main tower in an Oblivion gate, from the bottom, inside it.

 

For example in Imperial City, when everything is set to maximum and Streamline's StreamSmooth is off, with the 10 or more NPCs there visible, when looking from one of the side-doors (the ones leading to another section of the city on the circle, not to the central part with the tower or outside), the game slows down to around 6-10 FPS. Similar things happened in one Lost Spires quest, when there were several bandits in one part of the cave, on a small island on an underwater lake.

 

The game also tends to stutter when horse-riding, but I guess that's unavoidable.

 

cya

Raziel-chan

[Jenrai]

Last thing I would suggest then is dropping the background tasks. With your revised mod list, your card & machine are certainly powerful enough to handle the game, unless theres a fault with something somewhere we have overlooked, but as your problems seem focussed on just Oblivion, thats unlikely...

As mentioned, Oblivion is a serious resource hog, so clear as much of that background clutter as you can. Things like cftmon, card monitors, mobile phone programs... stuff like that. If its open its using RAM, wether you are using the program or not.

 

Jenrai

[Razielchan]

Well, I'm checking ram usage live and it never goes past ~80% when playing the game... And yeah, just Oblivion, just played Bioshock 2 on max details without a hitch.

 

just checked with a new character, I get ~20 fps in the prison cell once the two guards, one blade member and the emperor appear there, 16-17 in tpp mode. 24 before any characters appear there. Much too slow. :<

 

cya

Raziel-chan