Load Order Confusion

[assass1n1]

I hope this is the right place to post this. Could someone help me with Mod Load Orders please? I'll show you what I currently have installed. This is after running Auto Sort with Boss through TES Mod Manager for Oblivion.

 

I'll attach a Notepad file as copying thefle from Notepad didn't work as required.

 

I hope I've given you enough information, and someone can help me.

 

Thanks.Active Mod Files:

 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]
02  Children Shivering Isles.esm
----> Delinquent MASTER: Children.esm
03  Children.esm
04  CM Partners.esm
05  Cross_Goodies.esm
06  Hammerfell.esm
----> Delinquent MASTER: TR_OoT_Main.esm
07  Oblivifall Master File.esm  [Version 1.1]
08  Skingrad24Vars.esm
09  Teenagers Shivering Isles.esm
----> Delinquent MASTER: Teenagers.esm
0A  Teenagers.esm
0B  Toddlers.esm
0C  TR_OoT_Main.esm
0D  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]
0E  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]
0F  No Glarthir-7732.esp
10  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion KOTN.esp  [Version 1.0]
----> Delinquent MASTER: Knights.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp
11  PeaceRoom.esp
12  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 1.42]
13  Sexy Ghost Armor.esp
14  New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp
15  More Female Servants.esp  [Version 1.10]
16  Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp
17  Moner ring.esp
18  MBJBloodRedVamp.esp
19  Player Family.esp
1A  Player's Diary.esp
1B  Punk Stevo - Brutal Underground.esp
1C  Queensarmory.esp
1D  R18PN - Lingeries.esp
1E  Raven Elves.esp
1F  ReclaimSancreTor.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
20  HoarfrostCastle.esp
21  SG011_Seductive.esp
22  HGEC_BodyGlove.esp
23  em_extrabedLeyaw.esp
24  EM_RedRoseManor.esp  [Version 2.0]
25  Encumbrance100.esp
26  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]
27  Faction Rank Fix.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: Knights.esp
28  GoldCoinBagger.esp
29  HammerfellBorders.esp
2A  HentaiCelestialArmor.esp
2B  Marine Bunny.esp
2C  Hidden_Elves.esp  [Version 1.2]
2D  Swimming Costume.esp
2E  Hotkey Pro.esp  [Version 1.2]
2F  IDKRRR_C_race.esp
30  Kaleencolors.esp
31  KitRae Exotic Dual Remake.esp
32  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp  [Version 3.0]
33  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.61]
34  Vampire Race Reloaded Patch by Xtudo.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: Vampire Race Reloaded.esp
35  Think to Yourself.esp
36  Toddlers Patch.esp  [Version 1.2]
37  Tona's_ModsStore.esp
38  TR_Stirk.esp
39  Unofficial Elsweyr Anequina Patch.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: ElsweyrAnequina.esp
3A  UVIII.esp
3B  VailenaCompanionValeria.esp
3C  VailenaRace.esp
3D  The Lost Spires.esp
3E  Vampire Race Reloaded.esp
3F  Vampiria.esp
40  ViljainRedRoseManor.esp  [Version 1.2]
----> Delinquent MASTER: 1em_Vilja.esp
41  VipCxjHHTest.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: VipCxj_HighHeels.esp
42  VipCxj_HighHeels.esp
43  Vsleepinjail.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: 1em_Vilja.esp
44  Warglaives by Jojjo v1.0.esp  [Version 1.0]
45  X.Races.Comp.esp
46  sycNiceToMeetYou.esp
47  ShiveringIslesTransportationNetwork.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: TamrielTransportationNetwork.esp
48  Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp
49  Soulshade Dragonslayer Sword.esp
4A  Special chest.esp
4B  Storms & Sound.esp
4C  SuccubusRace.esp
4D  XeniaRace.esp
4E  SwimmingEquipment.esp
4F  ShezriesTownsMaster.esp
50  Synx.esp
51  Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp  [Version 2.0]
52  Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: ElsweyrAnequina.esp
53  Tamriel.esp
54  TamrielTransportationNetwork.esp
55  Teenagers Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
56  Teenagers Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
57  Terimer.esp
58  CGAddonsComplete-OrgasmitronArea.esp
59  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 6.3]
5A  bladesfactionmod.esp
5B  Camping.esp
5C  CGAddonsComplete-AddonArea1.esp
5D  CGAddonsComplete-AddonArea2.esp
5E  CGAddonsComplete-AddonArea3.esp
5F  CGAddonsComplete-AddonArea4.esp
60  CGAddonsComplete-AddonArea5.esp
61  CGAddonsComplete-AddonArea6.esp
62  CGAddonsComplete-BrewerArea.esp
63  Basic Physical Activities.esp  [Version 1.3]
64  CGCMPartnersDecrashification.esp
65  CGLostSpiresPatch11.esp
66  Chapel Shop.esp
67  Cheat Spells.esp
68  Children Patch.esp  [Version 1.2]
69  Children Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.2]
6A  em_extrabedChey.esp
6B  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
6C  CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
6D  CM Partners More NPCs.esp
6E  Android_Jenny_EN.esp
6F  0WeynonPrioryAlive.esp
70  1em_GiveAGift.esp  [Version 1.2]
71  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 4.04]
72  1SB NineTongues Sword.esp
73  1SB_LethalMajestyOutfit.esp
74  300_White Stallion 4.esp
75  AdrenalineOblivion-SpawnElement.esp
76  AdrenalineOblivion-SupportElements.esp
77  Aetheric Cuteblade.esp
78  AmbientTownSounds.esp
79  Chocolate Elves.esp
7A  Anduril Reforged.esp
7B  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
7C  Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp
7D  ArrowSong.esp
7E  AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp
7F  AutoBookPlacer.esp  [Version 3.02]
80  Azure Warrior Chest.esp
81  bartholm.esp
82  Basic Personal Hygiene.esp  [Version 3.0]
83  CM Partners NPC.esp
84  em_extrabedBravil.esp
85  EM_CompInnsleeping.esp  [Version 0.9]
86  Elves Of Lineage II.esp
87  ElsweyrAnequina.esp
88  ElsweyrAnequina - Races HGEC-Robert.esp  [Version 1.2]
89  Dynasty.esp
8A  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1.1]
8B  Drake Knight Armor and Weapons v1.0.esp
8C  DesuChan's Store.esp
8D  DesuChan's Persocoms RECONSTRUCTED.esp
8E  DesuChan's Dolls.esp
8F  Demoness.esp
90  Dark Raven Elves.esp
91  CuteElf11.esp  [Version 1.3.5]
92  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
93  CM Partners.esp
94  Colourwheels Sexy Silk Lingerie HGEC.esp
95  Colourwheels Sexy Tavern HGEC.esp
96  Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp
97  Cross_Goodies.esp
98  Cross_Goodies_CMPartners.esp
99  CRTRenewed.esp
9A  CuteElf11 Blue Portal Bug-Fix Patch.esp
9B  DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp
9C  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
9D  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]
9E  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
9F  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34Beta3]
A0  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3.2]
A1  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
A2  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
A3  UOPS Additional Changes.esp
A4  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
A5  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.5]
A6  USIPS Additional Changes.esp
A7  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.3]
A8  Get Wet - just droplets.esp
A9  DMCWeapons.esp
AA  Iron Maiden Set.esp
AB  Iron Maiden - Jo's Rest.esp
AC  KaleencolorsP2.esp
AD  CRHalfOrsimer.esp
AE  TGSGWeaponsPack.esp
AF  Knights.esp
B0  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
B1  Living Economy - Items.esp
B2  Cutthroat Merchants.esp
B3  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

[mhahn123]

What mod manager are you using? Is it OBMM (Oblivion Mod Manager)? And are you using LOOT instead of BOSS. I have never ever had a problem with BOSS sorting load order. But yours is all wonky and isn't even close to correct. I have seen a lot of comments about LOOT messing up load orders, although I have never tried LOOT myself. From what I can see on your load order list you have master files out of place with files that depend on them and the text is telling you that. Look at the areas in your load order where the text says "Delinquent Master". Example:

 

02 Children Shivering Isles.esm

-----> Delinquent Master: Children.esm

03 Children.esm

 

So you have the master file installed, it just needs to be loaded above the file which depends on it as a resource. If your sorting tool isn't doing this properly then manually move "Children.esm" to a position just above "Children Shivering Isles.esm". Then go through and do the same thing with the rest of your Delinquent Master warnings. That will mostly fix things...although I see other load positions that just don't look right compared to my load order.

[assass1n1]

I went through the whole thing, and sorted it as best as possible using Oblivion Load Order Manager. Still didn't work.

 

I was using TES Mod Manager For Oblivion. I auto sorted using Boss as a last resort. I also used both BOSS and LOOT. All of them posed problems. I've returned to using Oblivion Mod Manager Extended. I've had no problems with this.

 

Apart from load orders, there were problems with two installs. TES Mod Manager For Oblivion wouldn't install HUD Alive, even though Oblivion Mod Manager Extended has always installed this. There appeared to be a problem with missing OBSE, even though this is installed. Oblivion XP also posed problems. I installed both using Wrye Bash. Probably not wise under the circumstances.

 

I find load order managers throw up too many problems. What I usually do is move mods up and down the load order in OBMM Extended. I've never had any problems using this.

 

I also used Oblivion Load Order Manager. More problems. Oblivion steadfastly refused to start. I unstalled, reinstalled, deleted the Oblivion folder from My Games, and began again. Working perfectly as of last night- Sunday 8th June 2014. I'm reinstalling my OMODs using OBMM Extended. Think I'll give load order managers a miss till I know mmre about them.

[mhahn123]

Well....glad you got things working. Honestly never heard of those other utilities you mentioned, but have to admit I haven't looked at utilities for a very long time either. The only programs I've ever used are OBMM (not extended, didn't know there was an extended), Wrye Bash, and BOSS for sorting (last updated version is 2.30 before it was changed to LOOT). These were and still are the top 3 Mod Managing utilities for Oblivion. And they all work perfectly together. Never had any problems at all other than newer, unrecognized mods which can be submitted for addition to the BOSS masterlist directly from BOSS.

[assass1n1]

Sorry I didn't reply earlier than this. Everything is working well.

 

I sorted out the Wrye Bash problems. Used BOSS and BOSS User Masterlist. Both made mod installating much simpler. Thanks for your help mhahn123. Much appreciated.

 

HUD Status Bars and Oblivion XP have been corrected. Think there was a problen with HUD Alive.

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Teenagers.esm
02  Teenagers Shivering Isles.esm
03  Children.esm
04  Children Shivering Isles.esm
05  Toddlers.esm
06  TR_OoT_Main.esm
07  Hammerfell.esm
08  Skingrad24Vars.esm
09  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]
0A  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]
0B  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]
0C  CM Partners.esm
0D  Oblivifall Master File.esm  [Version 1.1]
0E  Cross_Goodies.esm
0F  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.5]
10  UOPS Additional Changes.esp
11  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
12  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
13  Teenagers Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
14  Teenagers Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
15  Toddlers Patch.esp  [Version 1.2]
16  Children Patch.esp  [Version 1.2]
17  Children Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.2]
18  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
19  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.3]
1A  USIPS Additional Changes.esp
1B  Symphony of Violence.esp
1C  AmbientTownSounds.esp
1D  Storms & Sound.esp
1E  1em_GiveAGift.esp  [Version 1.2]
1F  More Female Servants.esp  [Version 1.10]
20  Camping.esp
21  Living Economy.esp
22  DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp
23  Get Wet.esp
24  sycNiceToMeetYou.esp
25  P1DlookHereYou.esp
26  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1.1]
27  Hotkey Pro.esp  [Version 1.2]
28  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
29  VipCxj_HighHeels.esp
2A  1SB_NightWeaveOutfit.esp
2B  1SB NineTongues Sword.esp
2C  Azure Warrior Chest.esp
2D  ArrowSong.esp
2E  Chapel Shop.esp
2F  DesuChan's Store.esp
30  DMCWeapons.esp
31  Drake Knight Armor and Weapons v1.0.esp
32  Dynasty.esp
33  Dynasty Recolor.esp
34  HentaiCelestialArmor.esp
35  Iron Maiden Set.esp
36  Iron Maiden - Jo's Rest.esp
37  KitRae Exotic Dual Remake.esp
38  Marine Bunny.esp
39  MBJBloodRedVamp.esp
3A  New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp
3B  Queensarmory.esp
3C  Soulshade Dragonslayer Sword.esp
3D  SG011_Seductive.esp
3E  Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp
3F  Special chest.esp
40  TGSGWeaponsPack.esp
41  Thunderbird Armor.esp
42  Vampiria.esp
43  VipCxjHHTest.esp
44  Warglaives by Jojjo v1.0.esp  [Version 1.0]
45  1SB_LethalMajestyOutfit.esp
46  Colourwheels Sexy Silk Lingerie HGEC.esp
47  HGEC_BodyGlove.esp
48  R18PN - Lingeries.esp
49  Sexy Ghost Armor.esp
4A  Swimming Costume.esp
4B  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]
4C  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]
4D  AdrenalineOblivion-SupportElements.esp
4E  AdrenalineOblivion-SpawnElement.esp
4F  EM_CompInnsleeping.esp  [Version 0.9]
50  0WeynonPrioryAlive.esp
51  Aetheric Cuteblade.esp
52  Android_Jenny_EN.esp
53  Anduril Reforged.esp
54  CRTRenewed.esp
55  EM_RedRoseManor.esp  [Version 2.0]
56  300_White Stallion 4.esp
57  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp  [Version 3.0]
58  bladesfactionmod.esp
59  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.61]
5A  Player Family.esp
5B  PeaceRoom.esp
5C  Punk Stevo - Brutal Underground.esp
5D  Tona's_ModsStore.esp
5E  TR_Stirk.esp
5F  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.5.6]
60  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
61  Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp
62  Knights.esp
63  The Lost Spires.esp
64  HoarfrostCastle.esp
65  Tamriel.esp
66  ElsweyrAnequina.esp
67  Unofficial Elsweyr Anequina Patch.esp
68  ElsweyrAnequina - Races HGEC-Robert.esp  [Version 1.2]
69  Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp
6A  ReclaimSancreTor.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
6B  HammerfellBorders.esp
6C  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 1.42]
6D  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion KOTN.esp  [Version 1.0]
6E  ShezriesTownsMaster.esp
6F  Colourwheels Sexy Tavern HGEC.esp
70  bartholm.esp
71  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
72  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
73  AutoBookPlacer.esp  [Version 3.02]
74  em_extrabedLeyaw.esp
75  em_extrabedChey.esp
76  em_extrabedBravil.esp
77  GoldCoinBagger.esp
78  Player's Diary.esp
79  SwimmingEquipment.esp
7A  Encumbrance100.esp
7B  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 6.3]
7C  Basic Personal Hygiene.esp  [Version 3.0]
7D  Basic Physical Activities.esp  [Version 1.3]
7E  Moner ring.esp
7F  Cheat Spells.esp
80  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]
81  UVIII.esp
82  Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp
83  CM Partners.esp
84  Demoness.esp
85  Hidden_Elves.esp  [Version 1.2]
86  Kaleencolors.esp
87  Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp
88  CuteElf11.esp  [Version 1.3.5]
89  CuteElf11 Blue Portal Bug-Fix Patch.esp
8A  Elves Of Lineage II.esp
8B  IDKRRR_C_race.esp
8C  DesuChan's Dolls.esp
8D  DesuChan's Persocoms RECONSTRUCTED.esp
8E  Chocolate Elves.esp
8F  VailenaRace.esp
90  Vampire Race Reloaded.esp
91  Vampire Race Reloaded Patch by Xtudo.esp
92  XeniaRace.esp
93  Raven Elves.esp
94  Dark Raven Elves.esp
95  AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp
96  SuccubusRace.esp
97  Synx.esp
98  X.Races.Comp.esp
99  CRHalfOrsimer.esp
9A  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
9B  CM Partners NPC.esp
9C  CM Partners More NPCs.esp
9D  CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
9E  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
9F  Terimer.esp
A0  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 4.04]
A1  ViljainRedRoseManor.esp  [Version 1.2]
A2  Vsleepinjail.esp
A3  VailenaCompanionValeria.esp
A4  Think to Yourself.esp
A5  Faction Rank Fix.esp
A6  Cross_Goodies_CMPartners.esp
A7  CGCMPartnersDecrashification.esp
A8  CGAddonsComplete-AddonArea1.esp
A9  CGAddonsComplete-AddonArea3.esp
AA  CGAddonsComplete-AddonArea2.esp
AB  CGAddonsComplete-AddonArea4.esp
AC  CGAddonsComplete-AddonArea5.esp
AD  CGAddonsComplete-AddonArea6.esp
AE  CGAddonsComplete-OrgasmitronArea.esp
AF  Cross_Goodies.esp
B0  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
----> MISSING MASTER: HUD Status Bars.esp
----> MISSING MASTER: Oblivion XP.esp
B1  CGAddonsComplete-BrewerArea.esp
B2  CGLostSpiresPatch11.esp