Sacremas Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 (edited) I have a bit of a game-breaking problem here that I don't know how to fix. It's mod related of course or I would be on the official site asking, but doing so with mods have not worked out well in the past. A specific area in my game contains a monster or effect of some sort that causes an instant CTD (Crash To Desktop) when I approach that area or load into it. The game-breaking part is that it's a huge area around the Thalmor Embassy, and I'm trying to do the party infiltration quest, as soon as I get on the carriage and load the Thalmor embassy, the game crashes. I have tried waiting several days, and going there at different times in the day with the same effect. Now what I'm wondering is if there's any way of narrowing down what it could be doing so, some sort of error logger or the like that told me 'crashed on attempting to load PinkHornySkeever" or the like, or if I have to disable mods one by one until I find the culprit. I'd rather not do that as I have an extremely modded game, with 250 ESP mods and a lot more texture mods or merged mods, so not only would that take ages, by the time I found the culprit the save game would be ruined. However that is the next step. I already tried disabling my reproccer and bashed patches and skyrim immersive creatures (that crashed it for me before), but I'm still crashing. I have no idea if it's a creature or bad texture, though it would be one hell of a big texture to cover an area from the Wolfskull cave to the Embassy and beyond, yet not touch any other area... and no it's not a sound effect as I tried uninstalling Audio Overhaul as well and no effect, and I don't have any other sounds... weather I doubt since it's Climates of Tamriel. So yeah, I'm looking for any clever suggestions on how to fix this or narrow the error down somewhat. Any help at all would be appreciated. Also, much less important, for some reason a lot of the time when my character comes into view for some reason (zooming out while crafing, performing a finishing move), the game freezes up, swaps back to windows for a bit (my screen reads the resolution as changing) then back into the game, though sometimes it just crashes it. It happens with any armor I'm wearing (including stuff that ten other NPCs on the screen can wear without it mattering), and I don't have a super high rexolution texture for my character or anything like that. THis happens more frequently in areas that I'm already lagging in. Edited June 5, 2014 by Sacremas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Often a crash in a specific area is related to a mod you removed. The removed mod put something into your game at that location. And the removed mod did something that was important to your game - because it was important, it was saved in the save game. Now when the game tries to load the cell where whatever it was is no longer there, it crashes when it can't find whatever it was to load. To troubleshoot - go back to an older save - the older the better and try to get into that location. If you can get there it means that save was made before whatever it was that is causing your problem happened in your game - hopefully that helps you figure out what mod. If you can, put that mod back ( not always possible) and continue your game from the latest save - then - go to a safe location - usually an inside cell where you haven't made any changes. And well away from the problem cell. Make a save there. Exit the game - remove the problem mod. Start the game - do not leave the safe location yet - wait 4 full game days then make a new save - exit the game - restart and load that save - Now try to go into that area again. Hopefully that will fix it - but you may have to bite the bullet and drop back to an older save from before the problem. :pinch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacremas Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 (edited) Ouch... I didn't think of that. *Minor spoilers for main quest follows* I have no idea what I've removed unfortunatley, none whatsoever. The reason this didn't occur to me was that I was extremely careful about not removing anything at all, even if it was a problem, just for this reason, so in my 50 levels of play (a lot of it in Falskaar) I've removed maybe three mods that I can remember (complete crafting overhaul because it was doing the same thing as SkyRe, and SkyBirds and Birds of Skyrim because it was just too many extra NPCs in the cities). I tried reinstalling all mods that I have removed and I still get the error. And because I've been relying on autosaves and quicksaves almost entirely, the only save that works without crashing when I get there... is my level 2 save from Live another Life, where I haven't even been to Helgen yet. I got to the embassy with that, and just for fun decided to console unlock all the doors and what do you know, Diplomatic Immunity started when I was midways through slaugthering the Thalmor on godmode, I got the documents and coc riverwood (hadn't been there yet) and forcibly unlock the secret wardrobe and I'm on a Cornered Rat later... all the while Mirmulnir's flying around somewhere wondering what the heck's going on. Obviously this doesn't help me at all, so I've decided to in light of this just scrap the entire character and start over... Okay so that's one thing, hopefully this time it'll work or I'll at least rush the main quest for a change, but anyone got a clue what's going on when I go third person and the game (almost) crashes on a regular basis? Edited June 5, 2014 by Sacremas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacisum Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 many ctd's are just caused by the memory management of skyrim. take a look over here http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1340369-skyrim-memory-patch-fixing-ils-ugrids-ctd-freezes-for-real/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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