Freezed screen when using spells

[JonyJC]

Hi, my game was running fine until it started to freeze (not really crash and I have to ctrl+tab) every time I use a spell, doesn't matter which one. I have the feeling that it started doing this for no reason since it was running fine with all my mods activated and then this happens, unless I activated some mod and didn't use any spells up until now I really have no idea what it could be.

I tried using Spellstrip to no avail and I deleted my Oblivion.ini to the same effect, I still have to try deactivating mods but I don't think that's the problem.

 

Any help would be appreciated since my knowledge about Oblivion isn't that extensive.

[bben46]

Why do you think mods are not to blame?

Something changed, and the most likely culprit is always a mod.

Have you tried an earlier save game from when it worked?

Since it worked, have you added any mods? removed any mods? Activated or deactivated any mods? changed the features in any mods? made any changes to any mods? changed the load order of your mods?

 

Have you added or removed any DLCs? Do you have the latest patch?

Do you use OBMM? OBSE? or any other utility programs?

 

Have you changed any of the options in the game? On your video card?

 

If you post a load order list someone may see something that could help.

 

How to post a Load order list article

http://www.tesnexus.com/articles/article.php?id=295

[Jenrai]

By the sound of things you don't use magic much. Heh.

Do you have any magic specific mods installed? Check thier read-me's for potential errors or conflicts.

Any advanced hotkey mods? Casting key linked to something to else can cause this kind of dramatic slowdown if the game is trying to run too many scripts at once. I have one save where hitting control to go into sneak opens the wait window automatically, yet using my joypad to doesn't, even though I've just mapped the joypad button to the control key. Go figure.

Basically, get BOSS (if you don't got it already) and run it, and if that don't fix nowt then show us yer load order, like Bben said. The Nexus guys tend to be a helpful bunch, not to mention some of the best modders around, so if it can be fixxed, you're at least asking in the right place. :) Unfortunately, the game engine is now somewhat dated, and there are some issues you could run into, especially using a lotta mods, that simply cannot be fixed.

 

Jenrai

[Maigrets]

Do you have Deadly Reflex?

 

I just searched Google and it seems to be the general consensus that DR causes this. Most likely the cause would be incorrect load order, so if you supply one as already suggested it would make things much easier.

 

Make sure DR is up to date if you are using it. I believe last time I looked there was a Hotfix, but I don't know if it was for that specific issue. I used to have Deadly Reflex, but I don't use it any more.

 

Another cause of these kind of freezes is DirectShow codecs, usually fddshow. Oblivion is very fussy about it's codecs. Most would say to make sure MP3's are linked to Windows Media Player and for some systems is probably best. I use iTunes as my default MP3 player without issues, but it may be different for others.

 

You should download this codec pack:

K-Lite - Full or Standard preferably.

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_Lite_Codec_Pack.htm

 

When you install, it will check for broken or bad codecs and remove them for you. You can also make an exception in the Options for Oblivion so it doesn't use the fddshow, but I found it was already done after installing the pack.

[JonyJC]

Why do you think mods are not to blame?

Something changed, and the most likely culprit is always a mod.

Have you tried an earlier save game from when it worked?

Since it worked, have you added any mods? removed any mods? Activated or deactivated any mods? changed the features in any mods? made any changes to any mods? changed the load order of your mods?

 

Have you added or removed any DLCs? Do you have the latest patch?

Do you use OBMM? OBSE? or any other utility programs?

 

Have you changed any of the options in the game? On your video card?

 

If you post a load order list someone may see something that could help.

 

How to post a Load order list article

http://www.tesnexus.com/articles/article.php?id=295

 

You are probably right I just said that because I was pretty sure that I didn't change anything but memory can be tricky sometimes since I checked an older save in which it worked, I have everything up to date, I use OBMM and OBSE

Edit:Forgot to say I unchecked the Knights of the Nine stuff.

 

By the sound of things you don't use magic much. Heh.

Do you have any magic specific mods installed? Check thier read-me's for potential errors or conflicts.

Any advanced hotkey mods? Casting key linked to something to else can cause this kind of dramatic slowdown if the game is trying to run too many scripts at once. I have one save where hitting control to go into sneak opens the wait window automatically, yet using my joypad to doesn't, even though I've just mapped the joypad button to the control key. Go figure.

Basically, get BOSS (if you don't got it already) and run it, and if that don't fix nowt then show us yer load order, like Bben said. The Nexus guys tend to be a helpful bunch, not to mention some of the best modders around, so if it can be fixxed, you're at least asking in the right place. :) Unfortunately, the game engine is now somewhat dated, and there are some issues you could run into, especially using a lotta mods, that simply cannot be fixed.

 

Jenrai

 

Actually I do but it was fooling around time so I didn't notice anything , I use hotkeys mods but no spell is linked to one. I use BOSS

 

 

Do you have Deadly Reflex?

 

I just searched Google and it seems to be the general consensus that DR causes this. Most likely the cause would be incorrect load order, so if you supply one as already suggested it would make things much easier.

 

Make sure DR is up to date if you are using it. I believe last time I looked there was a Hotfix, but I don't know if it was for that specific issue. I used to have Deadly Reflex, but I don't use it any more.

 

Another cause of these kind of freezes is DirectShow codecs, usually fddshow. Oblivion is very fussy about it's codecs. Most would say to make sure MP3's are linked to Windows Media Player and for some systems is probably best. I use iTunes as my default MP3 player without issues, but it may be different for others.

 

You should download this codec pack:

K-Lite - Full or Standard preferably.

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_Lite_Codec_Pack.htm

 

When you install, it will check for broken or bad codecs and remove them for you. You can also make an exception in the Options for Oblivion so it doesn't use the fddshow, but I found it was already done after installing the pack.

Yes I have deadly reflex and since you proposed it I tried unchecking it and magic works again but I have been using deadly reflex since the beginning a no problems occurred until now. I'm not really a fan of using Codec packs but I may give it a try.

Edit:Nope magic still doesn't work my bad it worked one time but now keeps crashing.

Edit2: Weird if I load and older save with the exact load order it doesn't crash.

Edit3: Saving again seems to fix it, such a simple solution, anyone cares to tell me why this happens?

 

Now the Load Order

 

 

Oblivion.esm

Cobl Main.esm

CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm

TamrielTravellers.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp

_darker_nights.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts Visible From Cyrodiil.esp

Spell Delete.esp

moDem's City Life.esp

Landmarks, w Wells.esp

Ayelid Wells.esp

sr_super_hotkeys.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp

Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

Armory of the Silver Dragon.esp

MC_Staff_Pack.esp

Thieves Arsenal.esp

MD_FasterHorseTurning.esp

ExnemRuneskulls.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Cobl Tweaks.esp

FarmAnimalsofCyrodiil.esp

TamrielTravellers.esp

adTreeHome.esp

AnvilBayExpansion.esp

TheElderCouncil.esp

za_bankmod.esp

DLCfrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp

Origin of the Mages Guild.esp

MannimarcoComplete.esp

mythsandlegends.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp

CUO_Dwemer.esp

CUO_FightersGuildContracts_SAFE.esp

CUO_MerchantUpdate_SAFE.esp

CUO_UnLeveledPotions.esp

CUO_NewFactionDialog_SAFE.esp

CUO_BadGuy_Specific_Loot_DIRTY.esp

CUO_UnleveledGuards&Legioneers_DIRTY.esp

CUO_UnLeveledNPCs&Creatures.esp

CUO_UnLeveledLoot.esp

CUO_UnLeveledVendors.esp

GP_Lockpicks.esp

NirnrootPermPotions.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

Quest Award Leveller.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

RealisticForceHigh.esp

The Sixth Element.esp

SupremeMagicka.esp

SM_ShiveringIsles.esp

SM_COBL.esp

SM_EnchantStaff.esp

SM_NoSpellLights.esp

SM_Scrolls.esp

SM_SigilStone.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

SM_DeadlyReflex.esp

Druid.esp

Dark Dungeons.esp

Dark Dungeons - SI.esp

Get Wet v0.92.esp

Real Lava 1.3.esp

Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp

spellstrip 1.0.esp

DB_NightMotherMoney3k.esp

BHC_Expanded.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Lightless - All the Districts - Merged.esp

adTH-druidsdomain.esp

[bben46]

If it's working now with no changes it was probably a corrupted save. Those happen occasionally. More often on autosaves than others.