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Please explain clearing Infamy with Wayshrines


meathead013

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i thought i understood it and planned ahead but then when i went to complete the Nine Divines i couldnt

- Knights of Nine installed before new game
- started the Nine Divines quest when i had zero Infamy
- visited all but one of the Wayshrines then held off on the last one
- Joined Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild, completed most of DB and all of Thieves Guild to become Gray Wolf
- getting the 10 Infamy points for becoming Gray Wolf pushed my Infamy past my Fame
- went to the last Wayshrine to clear infamy but it said something about continuing my penance and nothing happened

according to the uesp Infamy page it says

"Infamy limits your ability to use altars to the Nine Divines. If your Infamy exceeds your Fame, trying to use any chapel altar fails, giving the message "Repent your crimes, wicked one!" To regain use of the altars, you must increase your Fame (by doing more "good" quests). Or, if you have installed Knights of the Nine, you can complete the Pilgrimage of the Nine Divines to reset your Infamy to 0."

"You can continue to use wayshrines regardless of your Infamy and Fame levels (unless you have Knights of the Nine installed, in which case using wayshrines with any infamy will activate the Pilgrimage quest)."


so it seems to clearly be saying that once your infamy exceeds your fame you can simply complete the Nine Divines quest to get infamy set back to 0. to complete that quest you need to use the Wayshrines (which it says you can) but then when i went to do that nothing happened except that message about continuing my penance

so what am i missing? how can you possibly complete the Nine Divines quest if you cant use Wayshrines? Or does the entire Nine Divines quest start from scratch once Infamy exceeds Infamy, even tho those earlier entries of my visiting the Wayshrines still exists in the journal?

 

 

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well after posting i decided to just run around to the wayshrines again to see what happened and at the second one i re-visited the Nine Divines quest completed. so even tho i was keeping a list i must have somehow missed one or perhaps reloaded an old save that didnt include a wayshrine that i had on my list. but it did demonstrate that you dont have to do the whole quest over again if your infamy exceeds your fame in the middle of the quest

 

i also see that the Divine Grace ability didnt show up, i believe bc infamy had exceeded fame during the quest, which means i actually do have to revisit every shrine to get it (at least i think this is how it works, we'll see)

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