Jauffre has a lack of Topics?

[Spazthemax]

To begin, I am using Alternate Start Arrive by Ship. I grab the Amulet form the rat in the sewer, quest around, finally get to Jauffre. I talk to him, only for him to give me a generic greeting and the topics "Baurus" and "Elder Council". I have the Amulet of Kings in my Inventory, and the quest is at stage 40 (When you arrive at Weynon Priory).

 

I have no idea what the problem is. I've tried quickly making up a new character, but I get the same problem even if I head Directly to Jauffre.

 

Here is my Load Order from BOSS:

 

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Recognised and re-ordered mod files:
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Oblivion.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
 . Note:  Recommend installing UOP hotfix for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710
 . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:C.Climate,C.Light,C.Owner,Delev,Invent,Names,Relev,Stats,Relations}} and remove the C.Water tag.

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
 . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Graphics}} and deactivate.

7lbsBedrolls-OBSE.esp

Map Markers Be Done -Elys-.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp
 . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Relev}}

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
 . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Body-M,Graphics}}

EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
 . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{Bash:Graphics}}
 . Note:  For Vanilla, do not use with OOO/MMM/FCOM, use that version instead.

ExnemRuneskulls.esp
 . Note:  Not need if use Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls*.esp

cyrodiil transportation network 1.3.esp

Tona's_ModsStore.esp

Millstone_Farm.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
 . Note:  Put before Unique Landscape mods to return tree sizes there to normal.

Bag of Holding.esp

EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp

Quest Award Leveller.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
 . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Relations}}

RH 1.5.5 - Original Alchemy Edition.esp
 . Note:  Realistic hunger mods and vampire mods may conflict seriously.

RealSleep.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
 . Note:  See http://omploader.org/vMmJlbA/DRtestfix.zip for a hotfix for CTD issues.

Oblivion XP.esp

X.Races.Comp.esp
 . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:NpcFaces,Hair,Eyes,Graphics,R.Relations}}

EVE_KhajiitFix.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

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Unrecognised mod files:										  
Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility. 
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Unknown mod file: MasterSwordDX_no_god.esp
Unknown mod file: Myopia.esp


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Done.

 

Attempts:

 

-Tried deactivating "Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp", only to receive exact same bug.

-Finished quest by using "setstage MQ02 50" and "player.removeitem 000250A0 1" (Amulet of kings) but useless due to Salvian Matius bug.

 

It would be worth noting that Salvian Matius also only wants to talk about rumors, and is completely oblivious to the Oblivion gate in front of him.

[Agima]

I've got the exact same problem. I suspected Alternative Start too, but you seemed to have started a game normaly and stille have that problem...

 

For me, it's the same thing with the Separated at Birth Quest in Chorrol. I've talked to some people, the quest was triggered, stating that I had to find Reynald Jemane. I find the guy, but there are no topic about those rumors when I'm talking to him...

 

I couln't start the Arena training either.... I'm starting to wonder if there is not a mod that have changed how or when the missions are triggered.

 

Is someone have the answer (and hopefully the solution to this?

 

My game has been patched to the lastest version. Here's my Load Order from Oblivion Mod Manager :

 

Oblivion.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

MM_NoMoreAnnoyingMessages.esp

FathisFix.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

CapesandCloaks.esp

Real Lava 1.3.esp

Living Economy.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

OOO-BirthSigns.esp

OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp

OOO-DaedraLord_Quests.esp

OOO-Dangerous_Traps.esp

OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp

OOO-DLT_Immersion.esp

OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp

OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp

OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp

OOO-Potions.esp

OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp

Quest Award Leveller.esp

AliveWaters.esp

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

 

 

Any help welcomed!

[Agima]

Well, before installing any mods, I've made a copy of my original (patched) version of Oblivion.

 

I've moved away my Oblivion save folder and started a new game with that unmodified version of the game. Obviously, all the quests were working this time (at least the two that I've tested, joining the Arena and speaking to Jauffre).

 

So it look like one of my mods are either changing or preventing how or when the quests should be triggered.

 

I did like Spazthemax, starting a game without the Alternative Start but I had the same problem as before. So it look like the problem is with another mod.

 

So if I compare my list of mods with Spazthemax's mods, here is the list of ours common mods :

 

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp (for myself, without the hotfixes)

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Quest Award Leveller.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp (doesn't seems to be the problem)

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

 

If Spazthemax didn't had the same problem as me, I would have guessed that my problem would have been with "Alternative Start" or "Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul". But my own tests showed that even if I deactivate "Alternative Start" the problem is still there. And apparently, Spazthemax doesn't have Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul but as the same problem as me, so I can safely rule out that mod as a cause of the problem...

 

So I'm gonna try deactivating the rest of our common mods and try to find the one that is preventing the quests to be triggered correctly. Hopefuly I'll find the one!

[Agima]

Allright, another update!

 

I've started a game with my patched and modded Oblivion. All my mods were activated (see the list in my earlier post) but I've disabled the common mods that Spazthemax and I have, which are :

 

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Quest Award Leveller.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

 

 

Except for those four : three of them are part of the Unofficial Oblivion patch, which I didn't believe that was causing the problem :

 

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp (for myself, without the hotfixes)

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp (doesn't seems to be the problem as my tests showed)

 

 

RESULT : the quests were working as they should be in the first place! So I have 8 mods to try before I can conclude anything and find the mod that is causing the problem with the quests. I'll keep you posted with my results!

[Agima]

OK Spazthemax, I've found which mod was causing our problem!!!! And the winner is...... RenGuardOverhaul.esp (v2.04)

 

Yep, thats the one. Simply delete/disable it in your Load Order and the game' quests will start to work properly now!

 

I've also tried running RenGuardOverhaul.esp in Oblivion with only those mods :

 

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp (for myself, without the hotfixes)

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp (part of Unofficial Oblivion Patch)

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp (part of Unofficial Oblivion Patch)

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp (doesn't seems to be the problem)

 

I did that because I wanted to test if RenGuardOverhaul.esp 2.04 was conflicting somehow with another mod. It doesn't appear to be the case, because the problem was still there. Unless RenGuardOverhaul.esp 2.04 has a compatibility problem with the 3 other Unofficials mods. Or then again, maybe RenGuardOverhaul.esp 2.04 has compatibility problem with the Oblivion's 1.2.416 patch...

 

I've sent an email to the creator of RenGuardOverhaul.esp with a link to this thread. Hopefully he will be able to find a solution!

 

But for the moment, if you want to play the game and complete the quests, you should disable RenGuardOverhaul.esp 2.04, as it was the cause of my problems.

 

Take care and have fun playing now!

[Agima]

UPDATE!

 

There is a new version of RenGuardOverhaul.esp (2.05) and the problem seem to have been fixed now!

 

I've tried it will all my other mods and it's perfectly working now!