AI is mad, guards don´t take notice of violence, rat´s ignore me..

[Sorgren]

Picture this, you just smashed a woman in the skull with a mace, and you killed her and expect some action from the guards, and nothing happens, as if it doesn't concern them should I mention I could murder infront of a crowd in daylight and I get no bounty.

And bandits and rats and everything ignores me most of the time? They just seem soo lost, out of 5 guards I attack 2 respond, and they don't come asking me for bribes, they attack straight away, but in a slow dumb witted manner.

I don't know what mod is causing this, or combination of mods, I will make a list of mods I use now.

[Maigrets]

When you make your list please make sure it's an actual Load Order from OBMM (Oblivion Mod Manager)and not an alphabetical list. The order mods load in makes the difference because you may have something loading that cancels out changes made by another mod.

 

Any mods that make changes to guards for example. Do you have a bounty? Although this wouldn't explain such erratic guard behaviour.

 

If you have OBMM go to the right of the main window and select Import/Export, then View Load Order. Save the resulting file to a text editor and copy and paste it here. You can also use Wyre Bash if you have it.

 

There's also an issue with the oblivion game engine itself where more than a certain number of actors on screen at once interferes with AI and you find enemies standing around not attacking until some of them are dead, and other oddities.

[Sorgren]

When you make your list please make sure it's an actual Load Order from OBMM (Oblivion Mod Manager)and not an alphabetical list. The order mods load in makes the difference because you may have something loading that cancels out changes made by another mod.

 

Any mods that make changes to guards for example. Do you have a bounty? Although this wouldn't explain such erratic guard behaviour.

 

If you have OBMM go to the right of the main window and select Import/Export, then View Load Order. Save the resulting file to a text editor and copy and paste it here. You can also use Wyre Bash if you have it.

 

There's also an issue with the oblivion game engine itself where more than a certain number of actors on screen at once interferes with AI and you find enemies standing around not attacking until some of them are dead, and other oddities.

Perhaps it´s the issue with AI, I will try get the list now, I fired up my pc and let´s see if OBMM actually exports my Load Order, are there any mods you recommend to boost my AI?

[Sorgren]

Oblivion.esm

ScreenEffects.esm

You Are Here.esm

BathingMod_Base.esm

HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

MrSiika'sFoxes.esp

_Real_Lights.esp

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp

Symphony of Violence.esp

Soundscaper.esp

PCSoundSyndrana.esp

LightsOut.esp

AmbientDungeons.esp

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

kuerteeSittableRocks.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

Griffon Fortress 0.3.esp

SentientWeapon.esp

Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp

RealSwords - Argonian LO-NPC.esp

RealSwords - Goblin.esp

RealSwords - Nord HI-SI.esp

RealSwords - Orc LO-NPC v1.0.esp

RealSwords - Redguard LO-NPC.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

FarmAnimalsofCyrodiil.esp

za_bankmod.esp

ArenaGamblingHighRollers.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag_MysticEmporiumPatch.esp

Knights.esp

ElsweyrAnequina.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Drop Lit Torches Weight.esp

ImmersiveHealthIndication.esp

NPC Water-Sink.esp

ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

BathingMod_Soap.esp

BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp

BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp

RealisticForceMedium.esp

RealisticMagicForceHigh.esp

The Sixth Element.esp

MidasSpells.esp

StealthOverhaul.esp

300ft_crime_detection-7319.esp

Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp

Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp

Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp

Cernasite - DragonEyes.esp

MRP - Autosaving.esp

MRP - Cant Equip Item.esp

MRP - Fast travel unavailable.esp

MRP - Horse stabled outside gate.esp

MRP - Loading area.esp

MRP - Not enough charge.esp

MRP - Quickloading.esp

MRP - Quicksaving.esp

MRP - You find nothing of use.esp

MRP - You successfully harvest.esp

ScreenControls.esp

Prometheus's SlavePackGoblin.esp

The Sixth Element - no willpower.esp

MrSiika'sRabbits.esp

MrSiikasBats.esp

1SB_WarhammerWingedStaff.esp

mrSiikas_ImperialCathedral.esp

FOV Modifier.esp

TDDM.esp

The Retreat.esp

mrSiikas_ElvenShips.esp

mrSiikas_miscellaneousMeshes_01.esp

Underworld Armor.esp

Slof's Epona.esp

Featherwynd - Amazon Priestess.esp

dD-Larger Blood.esp

Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp

Slof's Victorian Clothes.esp

zzEstrus.esp

Respawning Varla & Welkynd Stones.esp

imperialhairs.esp

No_Load_Screen_on_Death-5824.esp

RealSwords - Khajiit LO-NPC v1.3.esp

RealSwords - Bosmer LO-NPC.esp

RealSwords - Breton LO-NPC.esp

1SB_VampireHaven.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

darkmessiahresources.esp

Elves Of Lineage II.esp

JG Elven.esp

 

That´s my list.

[Jenrai]

Just silly, perhaps, however lets go for the really simple things first. It is possible you've somehow deactivated the AI completely. Try opening the console with nothing targetted and hit TAI (at least I think thats it... toggle artificial intelligence). What's the message you get back from the console after that?

 

Jenrai

[Sorgren]

my console is mad aswell, I always get config resseting...(or something similar), always, it´s an infinite list

config reseting...

config reseting...

config reseting...

config reseting...

config reseting...

config reseting...

kinda like that, but in a constant flow, anything I put in is instantly followed by that.

[Jenrai]

You have a glitched mod that is taking over all the console scripting, spamming it with the same command. Chances are, its looking for something thats not there.

 

And I think I may know what it is. You have the Deadly Reflex ESPs but not the Horse Combat Master ESM. You need that. DR will look for it when its being configured (hence you need to set the key) even though its rendundant in the current build of DR -ooh I sooooo want that back btw. :D - its not safe to remove the ESM, and that would be my guess why your console is spamming the reset. Get that back and see if you still have the problem.

And don't ask how I missed that yesterday. Maybe I was asleep or something. heh heh.

 

Jenrai

[ataris2145]

I have this SAME problem. Do enemies just stand there, sword out, looking at you when fight them too?

 

My console works just fine, however....

 

The only mods that we both have in common are the Script Optimization and Deadly Reflex mods. Here is my list:

 

Oblivion.esm

All Natural Base.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

FCOM_Convergence.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp

FCOM_Francescos.esp

FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp

FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

All Natural - Real Lights.esp

All Natural.esp

All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp

Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp

MIS.esp

MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp

Storms & Sound.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

WindowLightingSystem.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

GrayFoxOutfit.esp

P1DmenuEscape.esp

Oblivion Cats v0.2b.esp

Reznod_Mannequin.esp

VA_BetterGold.esp

moDem's City Life.esp

Map Marker Overhaul.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp

Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

AW_Wings.esp

Oddbasket Glass Replace.esp

Tyrael Armor.esp

Thieves Arsenal.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

FCOM_Cobl.esp

Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

FCOM_BobsArmory.esp

Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

FCOM_WarCry.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp

FCOM_Convergence.esp

FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp

FCOM_RealSwords.esp

FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp

FCOM_SaferRoads.esp

FCOM_LessRats.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp

FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp

FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp

FCOM_Archery.esp

OOO-WaterFish.esp

MMM-Cobl.esp

EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp

EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp

Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts Visible From Cyrodiil.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

Mighty Umbra.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp

FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp

Quest Award Leveling.esp

Quest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

RealisticForceMedium.esp

RealisticMagicForceLow.esp

MidasSpells.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

Enhanced Grabbing.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

RealisticLeveling.esp

Atmospheric Loading Screens - No Text.esp

X.Races.Comp.esp

EVE_KhajiitFix.esp

ReallyImmersiveMessagesNoBirthsigns.esp

[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp

Visual Enchantments v1.0.esp

SB IC Palace Tower Light Mod v1.1 - Constant Yellow Light.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

 

I hope this helps.