MisterMolecule Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I posted this problem a few days ago but now that I know the calipers are related, I thought I'd try again. Instead of equipment, bandits and marauders have calipers, and usually arrows and potions. (no weapons) Wraiths that drop Wraith Essence also drop a caliper instead of whatever loot they're supposed to have. Most treasure chest contain several friggin calipers. Deactivating Tamrielic ingredients for Fran fixed it once, I swear, but since then I've played around with the load order and messed that arrangement up. Now the calipers appear no matter what. I really miss bandits with armor and weapons... here's my load order:Oblivion.esm Tamrielic Ingredients.esm Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm Jog_X_Mod.esm Better Cities Resources.esm TamrielTravellers.esm DA Run Fatigue.esm Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm Easy_Companion_Share.esm HorseCombatMaster.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp nVidia Black Screen Fix.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp Better Cities .esp Natural_Weather_HDR+Darker_Nights_2.1.2_bugfree.esp weather inside [silent seasons] v1.2.esp Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp AmbientTownSounds.esp MIS.esp MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp Book Collection.esp Brighter_Torches.esp FlyingCameraMod.esp ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp Fatality Cam.esp GuildOwnership1.2.esp Inebriation.esp C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp Hov's Hotkeys.esp PersuasionOverhaul.esp MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp CapesandCloaks.esp Mage Ward.esp M.O.E. - New Staffs, Blight and Ashstorms.esp M.O.E. - Playable Scythe.esp M.O.E. - Unlocked Palace Guard Armour.esp M.O.E. - Unlocked Dremora Armour and Robes.esp M.O.E. - Unlocked Glenroy and Captain Renault Blades Armour.esp M.O.E. - Better Icon for Script Effects.esp Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp LuckBasedLootForFrans.esp 300_White Stallion 4.esp ArianaTrudeaux.esp AyleidArrows.esp Basement_Bravilhouse V1-0.esp Better Rosethorn Hall.esp Break Into the Arcane University.esp Darbinshire Keep.esp Extended Imperial City Version 1.0.esp Fort Falkenshire.esp Fort Krakatus.esp Fort_FerrionV11.esp Gelden_Halls.esp Gift of Kynareth.esp JolardHome.esp EiAmod.esp LetThePeopleDrink.esp M.O.E. - Tools of Kagrenac - The Secret of White Gold Tower.esp M.O.E. - The Black Sacrament - Night Mother's Ritual.esp ROHJ - Wing Sword.esp Ruins of Tarnesia.esp TheStorytellersBrotherQuest.esp Thievery.esp Tomb of the Unknown Knight.esp Torynwyll.esp Arena Blacksmith.esp M.O.E. - Visit Valen Dreth Topic.esp Consequences.esp Mighty Umbra.esp Blood&Mud.esp The Lost Spires.esp road+bridges.esp mythsandlegends.esp Oblivion Gate Map Marker Remover.esp JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp Harvest [Flora].esp Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp Birthsigns Expanded.esp Cliff_BetterLetters.esp Elys Invest More.esp Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp M.O.E. - Bone Names and Priced Skull.esp M.O.E. - Lucien Lachance Rumors Fix.esp M.O.E. - Icons for Mythic Dawn Armour - Fix.esp M.O.E. - Lycanthropy and Lichcraft.esp M.O.E. - New Classes.esp MarkerExplore.esp P1DkeyChain.esp Regional Legion Soldiers by Ionis.esp Ring of console.esp Quest Award Leveller.esp Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp DA Fatigued Running.esp DA ReducedBackwardsRunningSpeed.esp DA Sprint.esp RealisticForceMedium.esp Natural Hunger v2_0 by QF.esp Real Injury.esp Jump_Adjustment-2211.esp RealSleepExtended.esp M.O.E. - Vampire Clan Raelu.esp M.O.E. - Vampire Players Scarier.esp Better Scrolls.esp M.O.E. - Ethereal State Spell.esp M.O.E. - Levitation Magic.esp M.O.E. - Lock Spells.esp M.O.E. - Teleportation Magic and Icarian Flight.esp MidasSpells.esp Toaster's Brutal Stealth.esp M.O.E. - Realistic Law Enforcement - Part One.esp M.O.E. - Realistic Law Enforcement - Part Two.esp sycHearNoEvil.esp kuerteeCrimeHasWitnesses.esp Vows and Covenants.esp kuerteeNPCsYield.esp Enhanced Grabbing.esp NaturalMagicSkillsInceases_v2.0.esp Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp Kobu's 3x Slower Skills Mod.esp Governing Attributes Overhaul.esp M.O.E. - Unlocked Hairstyles.esp LifeDetect Shader.esp Better Potions and Poisons.esp Amulets3.esp Average_Evidence.esp Francesco's 7 days respawn time - 1-12 day lenght rescale.esp Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary - Tripwires Stylized.esp Francesco's Optional Files.esp betterskullofcorruption.esp Better Abandoned House.esp Stylish Jump.esp Compass_Marker_Reducer.esp Continuing Oblivion Gates.esp DD__Poison_Apple_Creator__Fix.esp darkarrow.esp dbpoisonapple.esp DB_NightMotherMoney2k.esp LoadingScreenQuotes.esp Fort_Charrish_v11.esp UOP-Optional Quests Patch.esp FranSeducerScriptFix.esp hft.esp Arena_BattlesV1.1.esp LFox Expensive Arena Gambling.esp JumpingZd.esp Jumpmore Fatigue Cost Reduction ONLY v1.esp Archmage Chest Item Duplicator.esp Krystina's EnchantArchMageRobeHood.esp Krystina's EnchantTweakAndPotionConsumption.esp Krystina's MiscTweaks.esp LongerUnconscious.esp Mage Guild Teleport v1.3.esp ChangeIllusionStartSpellCalmToCharm.esp MagicRevisedMysticism.esp Even More AI Eating.esp Insane Spellcaster AI.esp Not a Bedroll.esp Tamrielic_Ingredients_Fran.esp geomancy.esp MannimarcoRevisited.esp MannimarcoWardrobeChest.esp Servant of the Dawn.esp Mouth of the Serpent.esp Vampirism2.0.esp Skillbased Thieves Guild Invitation.esp Lem - Bounty Reduction Over Gametime.esp AddSpells.esp GoldAdjustment.esp Leveled Shadowmere.esp StopDarkBrotherhood.esp SaddleBag_noMenu.esp sycSHOUT.esp ElsweyrAnequina.esp xulAncientRedwoods.esp xulAncientYews.esp xulArriusCreek.esp xulBlackwoodForest.esp xulBravilBarrowfields.esp xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp xulChorrolHinterland.esp xulCloudtopMountains.esp xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp XulEntiusGorge.esp xulFallenleafEverglade.esp xulImperialIsle.esp xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp xulLushWoodlands.esp xulPantherRiver.esp xulRiverEthe.esp xulStendarrValley.esp xuldarkforest.esp xulTheHeath.esp xulRollingHills_EV.esp xulPatch_AY_AC.esp EtInArkay-BravilBarrowfields patch.esp EtInArkay-ColovianHighlands patch.esp LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp NRB4+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp BarrowFields-Blood&Mud-Patch.esp LastUnicorn.esp WindowLightingSystem.esp RAEVWD Imperial City.esp TamrielTravellers.esp TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp Raiders of Cyrodil.esp Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp No Quest Items [v.1.0].esp Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp Better Imperial City.esp Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp Better Cities - Thievery.esp NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp SpreadingVampirism.esp ScriptEffectSubduer.esp CDM-NPC Sundamage.esp MannimarcoComplete.esp ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackFull.esp Race&Lore.esp ahtata dremora.esp Banes Blade of Woe Replacer.esp No More Annoying Comments.esp NoGuildmasterKick.esp NoLoad.esp za_less_NPC_conversations.esp DropLitTorchOBSE.esp Dark Dungeons.esp Dude Wheres My Horse.esp Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maigrets Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 This is an old problem with Fran's that comes up now and again. The calipers are (is) a default item that replaces leveled loot if there's a problem so you don't have CTD's because the loot is missing. I'm just going to copy the part of the readme here from the Fran's thread at the Official forums and hopefully it helps. Q: OMG!!! All my bandits are Nekkid. And I'm finding only Calipers in the loot. What gives? Why are the bandits running around in the buff and where is their treasure? A: Hate to say it, but 'G' likely doesn't give a hoot. But I do, heh. Nude or topless NPCs (this can happen with any of them, actually) and loot chests filled to bursting with calipers are a sign that the loot tables need to be reset. Lucky for you this can and should be done in game. First try this method: Go to a location with no NPCs (a player owned house is perfect). Open the console (its that handy '~' key again) and type in startquest fransmenu. Under Manage Settings select "reset to defaults". Then wait for the cells to reset for the number of days you have selected as your respawn time (If you haven't selected any then the game's default is 3 days) plus one day. This process should reset the cells with the bandits (Or other NPCs) and loot. If this doesn't work then you can roll back to an older save and try the reset again. Usually though this solves the issue. The forum thread is here and the info above is right at the bottom of the description.http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=921906 Using a Bashed Patch (Wrye Bash) would also probably help, especially if other mods add to leveled lists. If you don't already use it BOSS (Better Oblivion Sorting Software) would be a good idea to sort your mods into a good load order.http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20516 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterMolecule Posted February 16, 2010 Author Share Posted February 16, 2010 Thanks a ton.Doesn't seem to be working, so I'm trying to figure out wrye bash I think I've got it all installed, But it seems like anything I could mess with would turn to poo... I only want to make a bashed patch to fix the caliper bug, not mess with anything else and continue using obmm Is that too much to ask for? Stupid nekkid bandits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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