Mods that dont use the main .esm

[Purr4me]

My browser went south for the summer, I need to uninstall it now and replace it, all data, word processing just wents nut's, go figure that?

sorry about all the really bad type O's.

kitty

[Purr4me]

 

ok, you can not run the game without that, that IS the game, understand? so, you are miss understanding the meanings here.

 

in the geck, run it. it opens up. ther is limited data available because the procedures needed to "extract more data for use " are to Enable a master source file, in this case that is the main file "falloutNV.esm", but that's not what the answer was about. it was about making NEW content from whats listed available in the gecks content "loose files" some not loose bare are contained in bsa archives.

 

you can increase more by extracting data from the archives into the data directory move those to a folder on the Root of C:\Source

 

placing the files you extract into a folder named so, the geck will access that even if it's out side the game folder if things are set up correctly.

best to make it in the main game folder. how you test it to see if you have done it correctly is find something not listed in whats available and extract only that in this manner. as a beginner, you will find it easier this way, one small step at a time.

 

all the launcher is ...is a way to control playing the game, it's settings and things, it's not part of any editing software.

 

you need to make a newworld space in the geck with no maser file selected. how you go about it? what you choose to do? is on you, I can't read your mind. I can guess what you want. I can attempt to even make a simple thing for you to see if that is what your after but it won't be for NV game. FO3 only some one else can do this for you with this game because it involves very crafty craftsmanship to overt master files interferences. you can make weapons, armor, houses, structures. just things as kits' saved as kit's esp's. then you copy these assets into the appropriate directory structure that matches the games structure and then use a new esp it access this to throw into the world space of choices.

I think that you have misunderstood my problem. Making a mod that doesn't use the Fallout NV.esm is impossible and pointless if I can't NOT load Fallout NV.esm. Sure, I can just move the file out of the data folder, but I figure that there's a n easier way to do that. Am I wrong?

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/45138/?

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/searchresults/?

Not impossible, it's been done.

Edited July 10, 2014 by Purr4me

[senox13]

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/45138/?

 

 

 

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/searchresults/?

Not impossible, it's been done.

 

Ok, That's close, but wouldn't you still be able to add an item from base NV with the console, even if it wasn't in the mod?

[Purr4me]

Not from console ever, you have to make your own from the data in windows, rename the items as you copied them to your mod structure as you go.

 

say you need to use a vanilla armor, and it starts with NV....something armor.nif

 

you copy that item to your mod creation, rename it ,edit int;s insides, file all Reverential listed paths to textures, do nothing but leave it open, find and copy those items to your mods texture folder Now ,rename those from NV....somethingarmor to what ever armor. save them, focus now on these new file names, in your *.nif edit, change the paths to point to your new names. this is vanilla content made to fit a NON vanilla Master requirement ,bingo, you now need NO FNVfallout.esm

 

it's not rocket science, it's common sense.

 

when doing so, change the textures, color any thing. do the same with the nif. this way you can claim you made these changes .if this is not except able ,put the game away and do something else because the material required can only be used from the contents of the game. but you must change them. uploading raw, unaltered comercial material is not allowed. Understand?

 

console commands are fine if you make your own data, they are NOT fine if you intents to provoke an intended NV source into the game where no master is listed.

all data for New Vegas has in it mostly (NV) in it's name to indicate it's source. Dump that crap, get inventive.

 

DLC' bla bla bla, remove it's ID, change it ,create new data, and use it as a base. if your told you can not use it? then all bets are off and give up modding games because those are the rules. you must change and alter any thing from the game. just don't upload raw unaltered data. Don't use others data without permission. don't rock the boat so you can float.

 

Close? not hardly, like right on the money. that's the problem you seek skilled individuals that know how to do this, you need to study how it was done, that is why I provided the links. study the data, don't just look at it, try to understand what's behind it's use, why things wee done a certain way to do exactly what you want to do, remove the need to invite NV data in to the mods structure.

this can not be said any clearer that I can provide, if you need better knowledge, speech or English ,ask the authors of those mods, have them explain why and what and how.

 

this should get you off the ground and going.

kitty

[senox13]

Ok, again, I'm not talking about anything having to do with the geck yet. If I had only the project brazil mod installed, couldn't I, while in game, add an item from vanilla NV with the console?

[Purr4me]

Ok, again, I'm not talking about anything having to do with the geck yet. If I had only the project brazil mod installed, couldn't I, while in game, add an item from vanilla NV with the console?

you will break brazill as it uses "zero" assets from NV