Fallout 3 Mod Pack (with Silent Installs)

[justusZ]

Removed due to complaints;) - I still need to wait for some modders giving me permission to use their mod (or not), while I wait for them I cant give anything yet. Sorry for the inconvenience.

[Yossarian22]

WTF :blink:

 

Well, I am sure you took a lot of work in this and you mean no harm,

but you possibly will not make yourself a lot of friends with this....

 

1. Mods are often updated and your package will quickly get outdated.

2. You have so many mods in it and I don't think they all work well together.

3. I am sure there are many modders of your package, that will not be amused

that you didn't asked them for permission and so on...

 

I don't want take you down, just want warn you to be prepared for some

serious complains...

 

Gretz

 

Yoss

[justusZ]

WTF :blink:

 

Well, I am sure you took a lot of work in this and you mean no harm,

but you possibly will not make yourself a lot of friends with this....

 

1. Mods are often updated and your package will quickly get outdated.

2. You have so many mods in it and I don't think they all work well together.

3. I am sure there are many modders of your package, that will not be amused

that you didn't asked them for permission and so on...

 

I don't want take you down, just want warn you to be prepared for some

serious complains...

 

Gretz

 

Yoss

 

1. I know they get updated a lot, but the mods included were pretty stable at the time, so a part from missing new features it shouldn't be a huge problem.

2. They don't all work together, you can select the ones you want to install - plus you can select the ones you want to activate. As stated, its has most popular mods - it wasn't about making 1 pack with mods that work with each other - just easy installation of most popular ones.

3. I added credits to them in the ReadMe, plus I added them to the sources with a link to their page on tesnexus - if they really hate people installing their mods through a installer - I can remove the post :)

 

I knew before posting this people would complain about a few stuff, if you don't like it I just suggest you don't use it - with this its just easy to install mods after a fresh Fallout Installation. I don't want to take credit for other people's work thats why I added the credits section to the ReadMe, plus the sources in the ReadMe. Don't worry about taking me down, I don't take offence on it - its your opinion and I respect that. I'll take all opinions on it in consideration.

[sesom]

Only one problem here. You didn't ask for permission to publish my mod FNNCQ. My disclaimer which you can find in the readme and at the download location at nexus states:

 

Disclaimer:
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Don't use any elements of this beta version in any of your own mods you plan to publish in any form. It took me several months two develop this slavery system.
When the system is finished I make a modders resource. In the moment there is a lot of cleaning up and feature adding going on. So you would be incompatible very shortly. Contact me if you have scripting questions according this mod.

 

I have no problem if my work is used in a compilation but it is simply an act of fairness to ask first!

[justusZ]

Only one problem here. You didn't ask for permission to publish my mod FNNCQ. My disclaimer which you can find in the readme and at the download location at nexus states:

 

Disclaimer:
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Don't use any elements of this beta version in any of your own mods you plan to publish in any form. It took me several months two develop this slavery system.
When the system is finished I make a modders resource. In the moment there is a lot of cleaning up and feature adding going on. So you would be incompatible very shortly. Contact me if you have scripting questions according this mod.

 

I have no problem if my work is used in a compilation but it is simply an act of fairness to ask first!

 

 

I know I didn't ask before adding mods, due to the share amount of mods added to this pack - it would take ages to ask each author personally to allow re-publishing. Instead I added authors to the credits, a link to the nexus page in sources, a list of mods included in included, the description of the mod was taken directly from the nexus page (description shown on the right bottom of the program.)

 

I see your point, but I hope you understand reading each disclaimer of each mod woult take me ages - I mean no disrespect in re-publishing your work and I'm really glad you created it.

[GrandsonOfSam]

Actually, you are breaking international copyright laws if you don't have a permission to republish ALL of those mods... And I know some of the authors would never give a permission to use their mods, especially as there are a few compilations for which you would need to contact tens of original authors.

 

This is not intended as a flame, just to give you info about how copyright works.

[mongrelarchitect]

Honestly, it doesn't matter what credit or links you provide after the fact if you don't have permission to begin with. If the mod's creator explicitly states that you must ask permission before redistributing their work, you must ask permission before redistributing their work.

 

It doesn't matter how long it will take to ask. You're probably right that it would take ages, but think about how much of their own time these modders gave to create these mods. The least you can do is respect their wishes no matter how much time that takes.

 

Don't be surprised if you get some negative reactions from the community, and don't be surprised if some modders ask you to remove their work from yours. How would you feel if somebody just blatantly disregarded your wishes and did whatever they wanted with something you spent time and energy on?

[justusZ]

Honestly, it doesn't matter what credit or links you provide after the fact if you don't have permission to begin with. If the mod's creator explicitly states that you must ask permission before redistributing their work, you must ask permission before redistributing their work.

 

It doesn't matter how long it will take to ask. You're probably right that it would take ages, but think about how much of their own time these modders gave to create these mods. The least you can do is respect their wishes no matter how much time that takes.

 

Don't be surprised if you get some negative reactions from the community, and don't be surprised if some modders ask you to remove their work from yours. How would you feel if somebody just blatantly disregarded your wishes and did whatever they wanted with something you spent time and energy on?

 

I'm not surprised by negative reactions, most mods didn't even have a license or a disclaimer and its impossible to find each license and or disclaimer of each mod as there is no consistency used. I didn't violate anyones work here, simply made their mod install silently for end-users to enjoy them. I assumed the wish of a mod-maker was that people Used the mod, played the mod, this only contributes to that cause. As stated above all work I did on it is licensed under GPL, so I would have no hard feelings if somebody changed, redistributed, used etc.. my work. If the entire community thinks this is a respectless I'll just remove it. I just don't see how I harm anyones mod with this, I get that its the right of the mod-creator to disallow re-distribution / re-publishing, but in that case there is no point in making a mod as its impossible for the mod to be spread. Again, I mean no disrespect, and I anticipated on the negative comments - and again, if this isn't wanted in this community - just remove it.

[justusZ]

Actually, you are breaking international copyright laws if you don't have a permission to republish ALL of those mods... And I know some of the authors would never give a permission to use their mods, especially as there are a few compilations for which you would need to contact tens of original authors.

 

This is not intended as a flame, just to give you info about how copyright works.

 

I know how copyright works, but most mods weren't copyrighted and or licensed. I respect the mod-creators, if they wish their mod to be removed from a easy-install source its their choice and I'll remove the files from the internet and never upload it again - but thats just spoiling an easy install disc.

[Yossarian22]

I assumed the wish of a mod-maker was that people Used the mod, played the mod, this only contributes to that cause.

 

You assume that... but only because you only a player and not a mod-maker...

 

Mod-Makers not only like, if their mods are played, they also like to get some feedback for it.

They like, if they recognize, that people use their mods or leave something nice in the comments,

like an endorsement or nice speech or even constructive critism how they could improve their mod.

They also like, if people download their latest version and not stick with something outdated, because

updating their mods also often takes a lot of time.

 

So, if you just grab their mods and relaunch them, all these points are left out for them. It's very unlikely

that a player, that uses your package returns to the original author to provide feedback. He not even could

endorse it, because this would require to download it from the original source.

 

I would belive, there are tons of arguments why a mod-maker don't want his mod is published somewhere

else then he want it to.