A quick question for the lore masters

[DariusMoranda]

Alright,I need just a slight help with this:

 

University of Gwylum

 

Where is it placed on the map of Tamriel,in which part? I was searching for that information around the net,but unfurtunatly,had no luck in finding it. :wallbash:

 

And,if anyone knows which part it is,I would more then thankful if someone can give me a tip,or even to post an image of that part,because I am interested in the architecture influence and style of that particular land,where Gwylum resides.

 

Thanks in forward. :) :thumbsup:

[DariusMoranda]

unfortunately * ^

[madman132]

i do not recognize "Gwylum" and the wiki on uesp.net comes up with a blank. Any more Information? Is this even in Tamriel or on one of the other Continents of Nirn? Maybe it's the University in which N'gasta studied :D

[Khet]

From the ingame book On Wild Elves:

 

Indeed, one of the finest sages of the University of Gwilym was a civilized Ayleid Elf, Tjurhane Fyrre (1E2790-2E227), whose published work on Wild Elves suggests a lively, vibrant culture. Fyrre is one of the very few Ayleids to speak freely on his people and religion, and he himself said "the nature of the Ayleid tribes is multihued, their personalities often wildly different from their neighbor[ing] tribes" (Fyrre, T., Nature of Ayleidic Poesy, p. 8, University of Gwilym Press, 2E12).

 

 

Suggests that the university is most like of Ayleid origins.

[bamspeedy]

A bit misspelling perhaps?

 

This is all I find of Gwilym:

 

Sage Tjurhane Fyrre (1E 2790 - 2E 227)

One of the finest sages of the University of Gwilym and a rare civilized Ayleid (wild) elf. His published work on Wild Elves suggests a lively, vibrant culture. Fyrre is one of the very few Ayleids to speak freely on his people and religion, and said the nature of the tribes of Ayleid are multi-hued, their personalities often wildly different from their neighbor tribes. (Fyrre, T. Nature of Ayleidic Poesy" p. 8, Univ of Gwilym Press, 2E 12)

 

 

Is mentioned in the book "On Wild Elves"

 

Oops: Cross-posted

[DariusMoranda]

A bit misspelling perhaps?

 

This is all I find of Gwilym:

 

Sage Tjurhane Fyrre (1E 2790 - 2E 227)

One of the finest sages of the University of Gwilym and a rare civilized Ayleid (wild) elf. His published work on Wild Elves suggests a lively, vibrant culture. Fyrre is one of the very few Ayleids to speak freely on his people and religion, and said the nature of the tribes of Ayleid are multi-hued, their personalities often wildly different from their neighbor tribes. (Fyrre, T. Nature of Ayleidic Poesy" p. 8, Univ of Gwilym Press, 2E 12)

 

 

Is mentioned in the book "On Wild Elves"

 

Oops: Cross-posted

 

Yes,sorry,I spelled it incorrectly,it's Gwilym. And information you posted is the only one I have too, :( ,though,I read some lore and found nothing on location,but it seems that University was multicultural,and some known individuals were the students there,such as the necromancer Mannimarco possibly.One more interesting thing I've read as well,is that the only 'good' type of necromancy was practiced there as a study,and it's called 'Proto-Necromancy',which was of ayleid origin.They didn't touched corpses,that was forbidden to touch the dead,only their hearts were used,it was meant for seeking cures of all types,and extending the possibilities of magic.Mannimarco tried to resurrect the old way of proto-necromancy but got corrupted by power and became evil.

 

Anyways,I am making an intro mod for a big one coming at the summer time.This intro is a long one as well,I will call it 'Resurrection:The Tomb Of Tjurhane Fyrre'. Since I didn't know where University once resided,I am making two buildings,one will be University Of Gwilym-New Building and University Of Gwilym-The Old Building.I didn't want to breake any part of the lore,that was the reason I asked it on here.

 

I want to hit almost the exact style of it,so I've been searching for some architecture variations.If you have any suggestions or if you come across of more informations,post it brother! :) I need all the help I can get.Thanks in forward! :D

[DariusMoranda]

i do not recognize "Gwylum" and the wiki on uesp.net comes up with a blank. Any more Information? Is this even in Tamriel or on one of the other Continents of Nirn? Maybe it's the University in which N'gasta studied :D

 

 

It seems that it was in Tamriel,and it was multicultured as well.Probably the only university in whole Tamriel,aside from Garlas Agea and aside from regular schools.Being an only one,I have no doubt that N'Gasta chased skirts in the gardens of Gwilym,between the classes. ;)

[DariusMoranda]

From the ingame book On Wild Elves:

 

Indeed, one of the finest sages of the University of Gwilym was a civilized Ayleid Elf, Tjurhane Fyrre (1E2790-2E227), whose published work on Wild Elves suggests a lively, vibrant culture. Fyrre is one of the very few Ayleids to speak freely on his people and religion, and he himself said "the nature of the Ayleid tribes is multihued, their personalities often wildly different from their neighbor[ing] tribes" (Fyrre, T., Nature of Ayleidic Poesy, p. 8, University of Gwilym Press, 2E12).

 

 

Suggests that the university is most like of Ayleid origins.

 

I suppose it was made by them,as they were only ones educated and capable to make it in the old days,though,later,it seems that university hosted students of all races and from all the provinces.I gathered that by the dates from the books,as Master Sage Tjurhane Fyrre died at the beginning of the second era,year twelve,and he was the 'last Ayleid'.In the second era,reign of the Ayleid tyrants had no trace as they were driven back to Valenwood or massacred on sight by Alessian Order,long before Fyrre died.Around 70 % of ayleidoon joined imperials and nords in the cleansing,as they weren't all deadra worshipers nor vicious murders,but after a couple of years,Alessia took action against her ayleid allies for no reason,or for an unknown reason,and repeated the same ways as it was for the tyrants.Death or running them out.

 

If the university was of the ayleid origin,was it possible that the university was at High Rock maybe?Aside from Cyrodiil.I came upon that idea,because I've read that the 'last king of the ayleids' ,the under-king ruler of Nibenay region of Nenalata,was involved in a huge battle at High Rock.He helped Direnni clan in stopping the Alessian Order almost permanently,as the Alessians expanded and butchered elves everywhere.What bothers me,is,how much of the ayleid structures and influence is present at the other provinces?If it was at High Rock maybe,I would like to see how High Rock looked,as I never seen it before.The reason I am precise like this,is because I want my mod to be very accurate,lore-wise I mean,to satisfy everyone taste,without breaking anything major.

 

If you come across on any info,I'd be more then glad if you post it,and thank you for reading this and help you offered. :)

[bamspeedy]

such as the necromancer Mannimarco possibly

 

If indeed Mannimarco went there, it seems to me like it would likely have been on Summerset Isles, but I'd like to see more evidence of this.

 

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mannimarco

[DariusMoranda]

such as the necromancer Mannimarco possibly

 

If indeed Mannimarco went there, it seems to me like it would likely have been on Summerset Isles, but I'd like to see more evidence of this.

 

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mannimarco

 

 

Possibly,as I've said.I've read an archive conversation between two people on some forum a while ago,it was on french,but I used translator for the whole page,and it seems that the 'person A' was interested in remaking this University as well,and I saw Mannimarco's name many times.Also,there is no trace of the actual university of any other except that on 'at Gwilym' or 'Gwilym' (I don't know what it is ,a city of a name for the school'. As I've read the King Of The Worms lore before,though I came across many versions of the same,it seems that Mannimarco lived for many years,it is mentioned particular at the link you posted>>>>

 

'However, it is known that he started studying magic 230 (ten score and thirty) years after the "mighty Remans" fell. This presumably is a reference to the end of the dynasty of the Reman emperors, which coincided with the end of the First Era. His study of magic would then coincide with the founding of the Mages Guild, which occurred in year 2E230. It is likely that Mannimarco was born roughly 20 years earlier, i.e., around 2E210.' Tjurhane Fyrre died at the beginning of the Second Era.I can only guess,as no other info has been given in the game itself,that this university worked after his death for a couple of centuries,I presume.You are maybe right about Summerset Isle,since Fyrre was an Ayleid and Mannimarco was an Altmer,and these two guys from the forum archives spoke about proto necromancy.

 

Proto Necromancy >>>>

 

http://tesfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Ayleid_Potentate_of_Vilverin

 

 

You can see Mannimarco's name there as well,at the last passage>>>

 

The religion of the Potentate was not the same as the other Ayleid kingdoms. The Potentate of Vilverin's civilians believed in apotheosis, which meant that when a hero died he would become a god. The Potentate had abandoned the Daedric religion in its early years. The Potentate's priests were the founders and fanatic followers of a belief called Silentium, or Proto-Necromancy, by the Imperial historians. Proto-Necromancy was known to be much more peaceful than its later version. The followers of that belief were not in fact collecting corpses to reanimate them, but in fact, they used the heart of the dead one. After years of practicing Proto Necromancy, the Potentate managed to create a huge number of undead. The Ayleids however had great respect for the dead and believed that any mutilation of them was blasphemy. The mutilator would be executed and his corpse would be mutilated as well. This belief died with the Potentate, its aftermath left behind only haunted ruins. Many years later, Mannimarco sought to restore proto necromancy. However, he failed, and his attempts corrupted him, and his followers.

 

If Proto-Necromancy was practiced among Ayleid society in Cyrodiil...It came from somewhere,isn't it?Was it Summerset Isle?Very likely,who knows.What is LOGIC to me,is that magic of that type must have been used as an educational segment,as well.Where?Arcane University came long after the elven rule. University Of Gwilym? :)

 

Anyways,it was the big inspiration of mine and still is,I can only collect bits and pieces,but it remains mysterious,almost completely.I relay on my own imagination of it,as I make it.

 

Though,interesting..I searched for Summerset Isle lore a bit while I typed these text,and sounds like a magnificent place,especially from the architecture description.I might go that way,when I finish the bases again.

 

Which sucks,cause I had to start it all over again,since Oblivion crashed on me and I uninstalled every tool completely recently,Now it's up and going to the max again! :D

 

So,I came to conclusion that we had only one university before the Arcane.That'd be Gwilym,as neither one information about any other popped out in my searches.And,hell,I've searched it deeply for hours and hours.

 

Thanks for the inspiration for Summerset Isle,brother. :) Now,I am going to hunt some images! :D