Oblivion only CTD when fast travel?

[TenthLegion]

I come to you guys because I have run out of ideas. I just fixed a problem where my game froze when saving, and now something else is messing up... it just started a day ago and i didn't change ANYTHING. I didnt add any mod or remove any mod. I have all the "save on" things turned off and i have also updated my video card drivers to the most current versions. I need all the help i can get. I can enter and exit places in town just fine, but if i go to fast travel it crashes to desktop when the loading bar is about 1/4 of the way full. Im currently stuck in Skingrad and need help, i beg of you. Here is my load order as well.

 

Oblivion.esm

Skingrad24Vars.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

TamrielTravellers.esm

bookplacing.esm

CM Partners.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

LoadingScreens.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

PCSoundCernd.esp

IWR-Lights.esp

IWR-Windows.esp

IWR-Shutters.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

MorrowindBooks.esp

Reznod_Mannequin.esp

Slof's Oblivion Pillow Book.esp

Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp

Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp

Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

Bruma_House__Fireplace_with_Fire-2800(2).esp

Banes Guilds United.esp

CapesandCloaks.esp

CSR - Fine Iron.esp

RSArmor.esp

LeyawiinMCHouseForSale.esp

Elvenguard.esp

DBShadowSet.esp

DMRangerArmor.esp

Dreadweave Complete_Light.esp

Skingrad No Food Clutter.esp

Hadhafang.esp

Woodsman Armor.esp

Prox - Arena Loot v1.1.esp

Mart's Monster Mod.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Spiders.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Lanterns.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Pests.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Skeep.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced Reduced.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp

TamrielTravellers4MMM.esp

TamrielTravellersItemsVendor.esp

ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp

ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp

Better Benirus Manor - Helping Hands.esp

Better Benirus Manor.esp

Bravil House For Sale Upgrade.esp

Cheydinhal Petshop.esp

GuilesHuntsmenLodge.esp

Jeral View Chalet.esp

300_White Stallion 4.esp

LetThePeopleDrink.esp

Knights.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Cliff_BetterLetters.esp

MagicArrows_1.0.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

Player's Diary.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

Multiple Creature Summoning.esp

FasterArrows200.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 1.5x damage.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

actors_in_charge.esp

Ren_Soya_KD's.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full + Soya's hair.esp

CM Partners.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

 

 

Also here are some of my OMODS that are not in the list:

 

Better abandoned house cheydinhal

Better Benirus Manor 4.5

Better Benirus Manor Helping Hands

Danis13ForMysticElves

Dark Ui (Darn) 155

QTP 3 redimized and further reduced OMOD

[XDANX]

The question is how many mods ago did you travel... Wow that/s alot of mods...

 

I come to you guys because I have run out of ideas. I just fixed a problem where my game froze when saving, and now something else is messing up... it just started a day ago and i didn't change ANYTHING. I didnt add any mod or remove any mod. I have all the "save on" things turned off and i have also updated my video card drivers to the most current versions. I need all the help i can get. I can enter and exit places in town just fine, but if i go to fast travel it crashes to desktop when the loading bar is about 1/4 of the way full. Im currently stuck in Skingrad and need help, i beg of you. Here is my load order as well.

 

Oblivion.esm

Skingrad24Vars.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

TamrielTravellers.esm

bookplacing.esm

CM Partners.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

LoadingScreens.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

PCSoundCernd.esp

IWR-Lights.esp

IWR-Windows.esp

IWR-Shutters.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

MorrowindBooks.esp

Reznod_Mannequin.esp

Slof's Oblivion Pillow Book.esp

Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp

Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp

Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

Bruma_House__Fireplace_with_Fire-2800(2).esp

Banes Guilds United.esp

CapesandCloaks.esp

CSR - Fine Iron.esp

RSArmor.esp

LeyawiinMCHouseForSale.esp

Elvenguard.esp

DBShadowSet.esp

DMRangerArmor.esp

Dreadweave Complete_Light.esp

Skingrad No Food Clutter.esp

Hadhafang.esp

Woodsman Armor.esp

Prox - Arena Loot v1.1.esp

Mart's Monster Mod.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Spiders.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Lanterns.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Pests.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Skeep.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced Reduced.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp

TamrielTravellers4MMM.esp

TamrielTravellersItemsVendor.esp

ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp

ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp

Better Benirus Manor - Helping Hands.esp

Better Benirus Manor.esp

Bravil House For Sale Upgrade.esp

Cheydinhal Petshop.esp

GuilesHuntsmenLodge.esp

Jeral View Chalet.esp

300_White Stallion 4.esp

LetThePeopleDrink.esp

Knights.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Cliff_BetterLetters.esp

MagicArrows_1.0.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

Player's Diary.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

Multiple Creature Summoning.esp

FasterArrows200.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 1.5x damage.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

actors_in_charge.esp

Ren_Soya_KD's.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full + Soya's hair.esp

CM Partners.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

 

 

Also here are some of my OMODS that are not in the list:

 

Better abandoned house cheydinhal

Better Benirus Manor 4.5

Better Benirus Manor Helping Hands

Danis13ForMysticElves

Dark Ui (Darn) 155

QTP 3 redimized and further reduced OMOD

[XDANX]

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[TenthLegion]

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I have had all these working fine up until recently, like i said, i was playing fine with all of these until a few days ago. And its not alot of mods really, i have heard people on here who use over 100. and you forget some of them are directly from omods (like MMM). any suggestions?

[bben46]

For troubleshooting turn off Streamline and Deadly reflex - you can put them back when it works again.

 

Streamline makes changes to the Oblivion.ini as you play. This can cause strange problems. If you have a reasonably powerful computer it will cause more problems than it fixes as it is intended for use on very weak computers.

Deadly Reflex changes so many things in the game it is hard to troubleshoot with it enabled.

 

Go back to an early save for testing - If you made one right after leaving the tutorial it will be good. You can do whatever you want with that and it will not affect your latest save.

 

Make a new save - this will move that save to the top of your list where it is easier to find.

 

Now try fast travel - if it crashes, remove 10 mods and try again. I would start with the Marts as it is a very large mod that changes a lot - take it all out. Keep doing this -don't put the mods back until you find where it starts working. When you fins where it works. Then put back all except the last group and try again. when you have narrowed it down to a particular group of 10, add those back one at a time until it crashes. Then you know.

 

Do not remove any .esm unless they are a part of an OMOD that you remove

 

If most of your mods are OMOD, it makes it easier.

 

S

[Jenrai]

At least you installed MMM via OMOD so its easy to turn off/on. But hang on before you do... the last time I had traveling issues, it was due to broken saves... have you been using/do you still use any of the games auto-save features? Thats borked. It corrupts and breaks saves, as well as making loads from those saves unstable.

Quick save is likely NOT guilty of this, but replace them with normal saves (save fully and delete the quick saves) regularly.

You've likely also got saved game bloating (curstesy I believe of "harvest {flora}" which makes excessive use of the Construction Sets 'placeatme' function which is a known save killer... at least it did when I last checked it which is why I never installed it, though I'll admit that's a while back) To find out about bloating (which will eventually corrupt your saves with similar effects as mentioned above) check the size of your save file. It should rarely be over 10 - 12mb, and if its nearing 20mb you're VERY liable to have problems. All is not lost though - Wrye Bash can fix that.

 

Jenrai

[gamenode]

I hope you've found the answer by now.

 

In any case, I was having the same problem and I remembered when I had this problem a couple years ago and I found the solution then.

 

This type of thing happens when you have a bad save somewhere. Someone mentioned that Auto-save is notorious for this but it's not so notorious as to disable it imo.

 

What to do?

 

Simply load previous saves until you can fast travel. When you load one that works that's where you start over from. All the saves that come after this are corrupted because they all contain the corrupted data.

 

I do not recommend messing with your mods since I do not believe they caused the problem. After all you played for many hours without a ctd on fast travel so why would they suddenly start doing it now?

 

For future reference--save often. That way in case this happens again the fix will be quick and painless.

[unilx]

I just started playing again and ran into the same problem.I disabled Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp, after that i was back in business.