Fallout 3 cant reach Rockland car Tunnel and enemies behaving strangely

[LeatherJacket7]

Whenever I walk around the southwestern corner of the map the game crashes. Because of this I cannot reach Rockland train tunnel for one of the broken steel quests.

 

the problem seems to be caused by a large amount of enemies fighting near by. i can see a large group of raiders, radscorpians, and deathclaws fighting, but as soon as i get close the frame rate drops and the game crashes.

 

i have noticed that enemies tend to converge in certain areas of the map for some reason. for example: i enter a raider encampment only to find it deserted; im pretty sure the enemies have just walked off somewhere. another example is in the metro tunnels. i enter a tunnel that i know should have feral gouls in it but they are gone. i enter another part of the tunnel and i find 30+ gouls all bunched together. this glitch has also made it so unique named enemies are not found where they are supposed to be.

 

this glitch has been happening from when i first got the game on pc. it has only ever been an annoyance until now because i cant reach the R. car tunnel.

This glitch has never happened to me on the xbox version of the game.

[Purr4me]

post a mod list of the order of things from the C:|username\apps/fallout3\plugin.txt file ...it's contents here as a post.

do not post a Loot or nmm or fomm list, I want what is listed in that real time file.

 

what you describe is similar to load order issues.

kitty

[LeatherJacket7]

Plugins.txt:

 

 

 

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

aHUD.esm

iHUD.esm

CINEMATECH.esm

Hunters Ridge V4.esp

ImaginatorFO3.esp

The Dockside Inn_v1b_Redux.esp

EVE.esm

Project Beauty.esm

Camp Meridian.esp

WC4campsites.esp

Farpost Hollow_v1.esp

DK_BulletTime.esp

Sprint Mod.esp

CaravanUpgrades.esp

megalight.esp

ShellRain.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp

ComboHeadgearPITT.esp

ComboHeadgearOA.esp

ComboHeadgear.esp

DYNAVISION - Dynamic Lens Effect.esp

Flora Overhaul.esp

Directors Chair - Fallout 3.esp

Millenia_CombatShotgun_replacer.esp

FO3_WRP.esp

Glock19.esp

WinterizedT51bDX.esp

EVE.esp

AxeandDBSrepair.esp

Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

[Purr4me]

1. Hunters Ridge V4.esp

Camp Meridian.esp

WC4campsites.esp

Farpost Hollow_v1.esp <---what language is this? check it using fo3edit please.

[LeatherJacket7]

it probably does have to do with farpost hollow since that is in the same area. however I disabled all those mods and it still freezes. I have never used fo3edit before and so im not sure what to do.

 

also, thanks for replying

[Purr4me]

if you have a saved game that was not involved with that mod? run that one and go to that spot.

hmm, well, you will need some what to tell what mods / plugins were running at a time and place during game plays.

 

Fomm..? on site version http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/54991/? has in it a way to view the saved gaes archived plugins involved with them. the trick is to find and Identify which one of the saved games has zero use of that mod, load the game normally as you did with fomm's properties and choose that ID'd saved game and see if the bug is gone.......if so, then you can continue.

 

the saved game is a data base, much link windows stores data, the game stores data, say you installed a program and sense that install, windows does weird things and if you uninstalled it, windows continues to do strange things? well we use the roll back feature of the os to remove, put the system back to where it was prior to making the wrongs choices.

 

this same method applies to all games. find a data base /saved game that has zero data stored from that mod as it won't have it's name listed as being involved.

 

understand?

kitty

[LeatherJacket7]

I did a fresh install of the game with no mods. once in game i went to the crash spot and it still crashed. next i downloaded a fresh character off nexus and went to the spot and all the enemies were gone and the game ran flawlessly. this is great but is there anyway of de-spawning the enemies in my old save ?

[Purr4me]

I did a fresh install of the game with no mods. once in game i went to the crash spot and it still crashed. next i downloaded a fresh character off nexus and went to the spot and all the enemies were gone and the game ran flawlessly. this is great but is there anyway of de-spawning the enemies in my old save ?

In all my trials I found once data like your description is found to be stored in any archived game, no matter what you do, that data can not be removed.

 

this is like a system registry file ..for the game. so, the saved game is a loss. they are great to save for testing bug tests but you have to maintain vigilantes about what your doing and not lose sight of it.

 

fallouts are buggy, there is no denying that. if any one else would volunteer to try and ripp out the code on a different system, that is the only way i have seen remove such code. too much work. there are tools , saved game tools that can attempt to remove the code but how would you ID the exact hex placement? too much work.

 

for future play throws. it's best to get mod of the game finished before adding on mods. this way you have a large contingency of saved game to draw from. some mods change the games structure from the start, like FWE, or other custom made modes. Games changers.

 

well, any way , you have it figured out now so have fun.

kitty

[LeatherJacket7]

thanks for the replies. i guess i have another playthrough to look forward to, although its too bad i just reached level 30. well its always fun to try new play styles.

 

cheers.

[Purr4me]

Ok have fun now. Be of good cheer too.

kitty