Crash at Midnight

[niccolo]

Yeah, so. Apparently my game has taken to being Cinderella.

 

As soon as the internal clock ticks past midnight, the game crashes. Doesn't matter how I get there... sleeping, waiting, neck-deep in a castle plundering... it's happened on two different savegames now and it's always around day 19 for some weird reason.

 

My load order is:

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  You Are Here.esm
02  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
03  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]
04  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
05  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
06  CM Partners.esm
07  HorseCombatMaster.esm
08  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
09  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.05]
0A  phinix-waterfix.esp
0B  Better Bell Sounds.esp
0C  IWR - Windows Lights Shutters - Optimised.esp
0D  1DeadlyShadows.esp
0E  36Sermons-Miltiades.esp
0F  Adonnays Ranger Coats.esp
10  Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp
11  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
12  ClocksOfCyrodiilNoArcane.esp
13  CityLights - ImperialCity.esp
14  CM_Better Wine_SI.esp
15  MYR_AyleidExtensions.esp
16  P1DseeYouSleep.esp
17  Portable Campsite.esp
18  P1DseeYouSleep - Portable Campsite.esp
19  RoadSigns.esp
1A  VA_BetterGold.esp
1B  Weapon Displays V1.9.esp
1C  Living Economy.esp
1D  Living Economy - Items.esp
1E  Cutthroat Merchants.esp
1F  Crowded Roads.esp  [Version 2.0]
20  DLCHorseArmor.esp
21  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
22  SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp  [Version 1.11]
23  DLCOrrery.esp
24  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
25  SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 1.11]
26  DLCVileLair.esp
27  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
28  SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp  [Version 1.21]
29  P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp
2A  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
2B  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
2C  SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp  [Version 1.11]
2D  DLCSpellTomes.esp
2E  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
2F  Book Jackets DLC.esp
30  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp
31  ExnemEyeCandy.esp
32  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
33  cowlredux.esp
34  Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp
35  New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp
36  PTArtifacts.esp
37  Reznod_Mannequin_HD[Eng].esp
38  Tyrael Armor.esp
39  Rope Ladders v1.esp
3A  StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp
3B  DLCThievesDen.esp
3C  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
3D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
3E  ExnemRuneskulls.esp
3F  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]
40  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
41  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]
++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]
42  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]
43  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]
44  OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]
45  adTreeHome.esp
46  AlchemistsCave-COBL.esp
47  Better Rosethorn Hall.esp
48  Chapel Sanctuary.esp
49  Clintmichs Beautiful Market District v1.3.esp
4A  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.2]
4B  Ivy Cottage.esp
4C  GlenvarCastle.esp
4D  TheElderCouncil.esp
4E  VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
4F  za_bankmod.esp
50  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
51  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
52  SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp  [Version 1.2]
53  Lynges Thieves Highway - OOO.esp
54  DLCfrostcrag.esp
55  SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp  [Version 1.2]
56  Knights.esp
57  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
58  SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]
59  The Lost Spires.esp
5A  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 5.1]
5B  HoarfrostCastle.esp
5C  Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp
5D  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
5E  EDI - Aggression Fix.esp
5F  Castle_Seaview.esp
60  JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp
61  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
62  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
63  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
64  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
65  DZ_Auto_Harvest.esp
66  Bag of Holding.esp  [Version 1.4.0]
67  DeadlierDarkBrotherHood.esp
68  ImprovedSoulgems.esp  [Version 1.11]
69  Thieves Guild Quest Souvenirs.esp
6A  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]
6B  SRJIrresponsibleHorses.esp
6C  Wrye Shivering Death.esp  [Version 05]
6D  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
6E  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp  [Version 2.1.0]
6F  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp  [Version 2.1.0]
70  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 2.1.0]
71  LTDVampireOverhaul.esp
72  Elemental Horses.esp
73  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]
74  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]
75  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.80]
76  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]
77  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]
78  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]
79  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]
7A  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]
7B  MidasSpells.esp
7C  Midas OscuroGems.esp
7D  Midas Betterholy.esp
7E  Midas Reduced Costs 3 Quarters.esp
7F  Midas PowDur2x.esp
80  Midas Eldrich Power 4x.esp
81  Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp
82  Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp
83  Enchantment Enhanced.esp
84  SM Combat Hide.esp  [Version 1.2]
85  StealthOverhaul.esp
86  Stealth Entrances v1.esp
87  RenGuardOverhaul.esp
88  RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp
89  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
8A  SM_DeadlyReflex.esp  [Version 0.86]
8B  Druid.esp
8C  Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp
8D  actors_in_charge.esp
8E  _darker_dungeons.esp
8F  ElaborateEyes.esp
90  AinmhiRace-RensBeautyPackFull.esp
91  DAAltair.esp
92  DATalitha.esp
93  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]
94  DynamicTimescale.esp
95  BadderFireFX.esp
96  BadderFrostFX.esp
97  BadderShockFX.esp
98  Detect Life Shader [New].esp
**  Real Lava 1.3.esp
**  Visually Enchanted Drains 1.esp
**  Visually Enchanted Fire 3.esp
**  Visually Enchanted Frost 3.esp
**  Visually Enchanted Shock 2.esp
**  Visually Enchanted SoulTrap 1.esp
99  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]
9A  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
9B  GuilesScrollRenamer.esp
9C  CrystalStaffsOnOrderPriests.esp
9D  HighwaymanHideway.esp
9E  adTH-druidsdomain.esp
9F  Thieves Leather.esp
A0  KDWitchesFrock.esp
A1  Tyrael Wings.esp
A2  AXR Elixirs.esp
A3  BetterBedroll.esp
A4  Shivering Isles Root System.esp
A5  mighty_bows_arrows_recovery.esp
A6  JewelryEnchantmentFixes.esp
A7  Guard Upgrade Pack.esp
A8  Female Assassins Creed - Altair's Gear -  EV.esp
A9  Realistic_Weapon_weights-3534.esp
AA  Realistic_Armor_Weights-2194.esp
AB  Ranger.esp

 

 

You'll note it has a bash-patch in there at hex-place 9A.

 

Has anyone heard of a bug like this?

[Jenrai]

Yeah, I have actually... it was a mod conflict that caused it, though I'll be damned if I can remember which ones. Hmmm... I'll research.

Meantimes, run BOSS (with the newest masterlist) to rebuild that load order as something looks wrong - especially judging by the number of mods beneath your Bashed Patch. If Boss doesn't know them, general rule of thumb is to put em right under stuff that alter the same areas/add similar things/do similar jobs, and then rebuild your Bashed Patch, see if that helps.

 

Jenrai

[niccolo]

Edit:

 

Oh dears. Fail... Damnation. Does anyone else have any ideas?

[niccolo]

Yeah... so. Does anyone else have any ideas? It's really getting frustrating.

[Sealwarrior]

Arg... I know what this is like. A few months ago, I had the same problem.

 

Hmm.... I see you have neither the Unofficial Patches for Oblivion or SI.... You could try installing them, though I am unsure if they will actually do anything. They resolve a multitude of issues for both, so it is well worth the download. Since you are using Wrye Bash, I can assume that it is neither a bloating problem and/or an A-bomb problem, but you might want to reset the A-bomb counter and remove the bloat from your save games. If none of those work, you will have to do what I did..... That is, make a copy of your savegames folder (as a backup) and disable all of your mods. If it should work fine after that, then you now know it is a mod conflict. Save a seperate file post mod removal and then start loading each mod one at a time (it's a pain, I know :wallbash: ) before the time of the conflict and see if you can still play. The trick is that it may not be just one mod.... I found that out the hard way. So...:

 

Try installing the Unofficial Patches for Oblivion and SI

Try removing A-bomb and/or Save Game Bloat

Do the annoying procedure I described (sorry in advance if it comes to that)

 

I can feel your pain, as I was there not too long ago. I however, ended up doing the annoying trail and error method. It was excrutiatingly slow, but it worked. I am sorry that I cannot provide any exact mod conflict (or conflicts). There are actual conflict detectors you can use (the one for OBMM is an example,) but I am not well versed in how they work.

[niccolo]

Thank you Seal.. you still gave me a tip. I'mma gonna go try the anti-bloating thing and anti-A-bomb thing now. Cheers.

 

Edit: I found the problem. It was Goddamned "Elder Council". Lots of people have had the same thing. Worst thing is... damn thing doesn't show any conflicts - just like everyone else.