Random Crashes...

[EliteKill]

This is a post I made on Bethesda's forums but my problem wasn't solved (yet). Here is the thread:

 

I had to uninstall FO3 and remove everything related to it (mods, saves) and now I've reinstalled it. I've been experiencing random crashes that happen at no specific time/event. I'm running GotY edition with the latest FOSE release on medium settings (strong computer). My modlist:

 

[X] Fallout3.esm

[X] Anchorage.esm

[X] ThePitt.esm

[X] BrokenSteel.esm

[X] PointLookout.esm

[X] Zeta.esm

[X] CRAFT.esm

[X] CALIBR.esm

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp

[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.esp

[X] WeaponModKits.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - Scope Increases VATS Accuracy.esp

[X] Stealth Kills Enabled.esp

[X] Stealth Kills Enabled - Pitt Compatibility.esp

[X] CASM.esp

[X] Arwen_SmarterAI.esp

[X] Arwen_Less_Is_More.esp

[X] Arwen_Reduced_QuestXPR.esp

[X] Fellout-Full.esp

[X] FLAK.esp

[X] BypassOpAnchorage.esp

[X] AdvancedReconGear.esp

[X] NoLockTopic.esp

[X] Fast_but_dramatic_VATS_0.9.esp

[X] VatsLongerDistance.esp

[X] 3EFhelmlessstealthsuit.esp

[X] NPCs Sleep Tighter.esp

[X] zeta_alien_fix.esp

[X] UWWUT.esp

[X] UWWUT - Broken Steel Addon.esp

[X] UWWUT - The Pitt Addon.esp

[X] UWWUT - WMK Addon.esp

[X] patch.esp

 

The last one is a merged pach created with FO3Edit. Any ideas what's wrong?

 

 

try this load order. It is based personal test along with load orders from BOSS and FOMMS. It should be a little more stable.

 

And i would suggest getting greybash and use his bashed patch. much more effective.

 

[X] Fallout3.esm

[X] Anchorage.esm

[X] ThePitt.esm

[X] BrokenSteel.esm

[X] PointLookout.esm

[X] Zeta.esm

[X] CRAFT.esm

[X] CALIBR.esm

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp

[X] CASM.esp

[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.esp

[X] WeaponModKits.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - Scope Increases VATS Accuracy.esp

[X] UWWUT.esp

[X] UWWUT - Broken Steel Addon.esp

[X] UWWUT - The Pitt Addon.esp

[X] UWWUT - WMK Addon.esp

[X] Stealth Kills Enabled.esp

[X] Stealth Kills Enabled - Pitt Compatibility.esp

[X] Arwen_SmarterAI.esp

[X] Arwen_Less_Is_More.esp

[X] Arwen_Reduced_QuestXPR.esp

[X] BypassOpAnchorage.esp

[X] NPCs Sleep Tighter.esp

[X] zeta_alien_fix.esp

[X] AdvancedReconGear.esp

[X] NoLockTopic.esp

[X] Fast_but_dramatic_VATS_0.9.esp

[X] VatsLongerDistance.esp

[X] 3EFhelmlessstealthsuit.esp

[X] Fellout-Full.esp

[X] FLAK.esp

[X] patch.esp

 

by the way is [X] WeaponModKits - Scope Increases VATS Accuracy.esp in the WMK or is it a tweak developed by another modder?

 

 

Hey not often I see my own mods in someones load order. :D

 

 

@mouse0270

Thanks, and that WeaponModKits - Scope Increases VATS Accuracy.esp is mod I made recently (does not case crashes - tested).

 

@Uglulyx

Everyone should use your FLAK :)

 

 

Let me know if that helps any. if not I will try to look into the problem some tonight when I get home.

 

 

Well, it was working until 5 minutes ago. The game crashed as CASM was saving. I reloaded the last save, went to Moira to sell some things, and as I closed the trade screen it crashed again...

 

 

CASM is fine where it is at. Should work flawlessly. Here are some suggestions -

Make sure you are running the latest stable version of FOSE v1.2 b2

Don't use the FO3Edit patch go download and setup garybash

-- after installing garybash, use its bashed patch by right click on the esp and select merge patch or rebuild patch. doing this off memory because I am at work.

---- Garybash bash patch has been more stable for me then FO3Edit patch. I run about 243 mods including FWE, FOOK, WMK, and MMM, the last time I check my play time was 92 Hours and I have not experienced a single crash.

 

Using the load order I provided it should all work together.

 

 

the only thing that I can see that would have anything to do with the trade menu is DarNified UI F3 I would verify if you have the latest version a11 with hot fix.

 

 

[X] UWWUT.esp

[X] UWWUT - Broken Steel Addon.esp

[X] UWWUT - The Pitt Addon.esp

[X] UWWUT - WMK Addon.esp

 

There is no real point in using those as FWE changes a lot (most?) of the unique weapons.

 

[X] Arwen_Less_Is_More.esp

 

You can adjust the amount of loot you get in FWE 5.0, but using it shouldn't cause any issues.

 

[X] Stealth Kills Enabled.esp

[X] Stealth Kills Enabled - Pitt Compatibility.esp

[X] BypassOpAnchorage.esp

[X] NPCs Sleep Tighter.esp

[X] zeta_alien_fix.esp

[X] AdvancedReconGear.esp

[X] NoLockTopic.esp

[X] Fast_but_dramatic_VATS_0.9.esp

[X] VatsLongerDistance.esp

[X] 3EFhelmlessstealthsuit.esp

[X] FLAK.esp

 

None of those "should" cause any crashes, but I haven't used any of them either, the rest of your mods are the same ones I am using and I haven't had any crashes in the 32 hours I have been playing the game. I don't know if you have hunting and looting turned on in FWE MMM control panel but that use to cause random crashes for me, like the ones you seem to have. I could crash just standing around, going through a door talking to someone, dont know why but turning it off fixed all of mine.

 

 

I don't use MMM...

 

Anyways, I created a Bashed Patch and my game still crashes when CASM saves.... Any ideas?

 

EDIT: So I disabled CASM and started playing without it. I saved fine, finished a dialog, traded, killed some mole rats but when I saved again (the vanilla way) the game crashed...