BOSS or LOOT

[DustinDarud]

I usually sort the plugins with LOOT, and then reorder mods that weren't put exactly where they're supposed to be. I usually resort every time I download a few new mods, just to make sure everything runs right. However, some of the mods contradict each other, so the new load order would just create problems, which is when I reorder some of the mods manually. I wish there were some way to rank the plugins/give certain ones a permanent spot, like the Unofficial Patches, etc.

[MDeckman]

 

BOSS may not be actively updated anymore, but it's still a significantly better starting point than the arbitrary choices LOOT seems to want to make.

 

I honestly have to agree.

 

Today I was helping a friend mod his copy of Skyrim and he used LOOT to sort everything.

 

This was the result: http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/45351519723340862/E8EE35D7832A3CA9F6B3FEBD65CC92039BB2A1D2/

 

Edit: and no that was not caused by a graphics card problem :tongue:

 

 

What...what is that? Is that even skyrim? lol.

 

I've noticed that BOSS and LOOT do not sort identically. I was skeptical at first, but now it seems best to quit the BOSS and take the LOOT.

 

LOOT seems to give me a more stable load order and that is with 137 mods.

 

It's a toss up for me. It also seems i can flood LOOT with more installed mods at once than BOSS. BOSS seems to choke on like 15 mods being installed at once (i had to reinstall, so i tried like 15 and it just couldn't sort them properly and the game CTDed. LOOT took like 30 and sorted without problem and the game ran)

 

 

 

The two programs offer different load orders because they function differently. My experience seems to be the exact opposite of yours. I have ~180 plugins installed for my current playthrough, and when sorted with LOOT the game crashes consistently. Sorted with BOSS, I can play for hours and hours without so much as a lag spike, much less a crash.

 

What mods do you find are most out of order on your LOOT vs BOSS installation and do you build a bashpatch?

 

I have found both work fine for me but I've been moving to LOOT more than BOSS I've had to tweek a couple of items, but had to with BOSS as well due to unrecognized mods.

 

 

I concur with the unrecognized mods. LOOT seems to have far less of those than BOSS and i've got about 30 or so out of my 160 count. the UFO mods and Werewolf mods were significantly out of order..it had the patchs for UFO before the main mod. And the last time I used a bash patch, I got the purple for missing textures and BOSS wouldn't allow me to install any mods if i didn't have it selected. That required me, along with a few other problems, to do a completely reinstall. It seems every time I use a bash patch, my game goes down the toilet. and google searchs have not yeilded any concrete fixes.

 

 

So i guess the end result is that BOSS has a trusted foundation while LOOT is being the new convert. It's a shame that BOSS needs manual updating while LOOT uses a more dynamic approach. I'm currently using LOOT and finding it's actually easier and more convienant than BOSS. But i think the kicker is knowing how to use each properly and most effectively, which i thought as I posted the first post in this thread. I"m also enjoying the numerous responses that are coming into this thread. Please continue.

[bben46]

The original name for LOOT was BOSS v3 - LOOT is made by the same team that made BOSS. They changed the name because of the new method of sorting that does not rely on a userlist that needs to be constantly updated. And LOOT will not have a list of unrecognized mods because of it's ability to make decisions based on what the mod does. It's still not perfect, but it will gradually come to replace BOSS altogether.

[lstfresh]

And besides, if there is an arrangement that is questionable when using LOOT, you can set specific load order directions that LOOT will remember the next time you use LOOT's organization functionality.

 

So if you want to make LOOT as reliable as possible, I suggest going through each of your mods' load order instructions and set LOOT to remember them. That way, you wont have a suspicious load order and will have the most updated master lists.

[MDeckman]

And besides, if there is an arrangement that is questionable when using LOOT, you can set specific load order directions that LOOT will remember the next time you use LOOT's organization functionality.

 

So if you want to make LOOT as reliable as possible, I suggest going through each of your mods' load order instructions and set LOOT to remember them. That way, you wont have a suspicious load order and will have the most updated master lists.

 

That is what i'm currently doing. I'm finding that LOOT handling everything far better than BOSS because of the way it organizes mods. I've already made costume changes to the load order- about 4 i think. it seems to be working. However, I've still got CTD, not responding and Lag issues to work out...