Yet Another Load Order Thread

[glaciergirl14]

I quit Fallout 3 for a while and played some TW and DA, now I want to take a break from that and play more Fallout 3 before New Vegas comes out, I reinstalled my game and went hunting on Nexus for mods. I came up with about 160 mods that I wanted to have. Some old, some new, and some were updated. Now, when I make a new character, I leave the house that is in the Alternate Start (included in FWE) and go to Megaton. The textures are f---ed-up so badly. I see eyeballs for textures, most things are purple, like pipes and buildings, even people's arms and eyes. I cannot hit ESC to pause or save or even exit. When I shoot people, I do almost no damage, and the blood is just a square on the ground and sometimes, I get the missing texture sign (the red sign with the exclamation point) on my character. The problem is probably my load order or something. Help please.

 

Fallout3.esm

PointLookout.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

Zeta.esm

LingsFinerThings.esm

Lings.esm

LingsDLC.esm

HairPack.esm

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

StreetLights.esm

ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

CubeExperimental (EN).esm

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

SeducingWomen.esm

RTS.esm

CrossModData.esm

Animy_prostitution.esm

FortFreeway.esm

EnclaveCommander-OA-Pitt-Steel.esm

FNNCQ.esm

Overhead3PCamera.esp

RTSpatch_RVW.esp

LingsFinerThings.esp

LingsPrettyThings.esp

LingsPrettyThings-BrokenSteel.esp

LingsPrettyThings-SeducingWomen.esp

hair_add_npc.esp

CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp

YearlingsGlasses.esp

Echo_UseBothGloves.esp

Fellout-Full.esp

Fellout-pipboylight.esp

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp

Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp

Project Beauty.esp

Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

PB MMM.esp

WeaponModKits.esp

WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

EVE.esp

EVE Operation Anchorage.esp

EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp

dD-More Gore.esp

dD-More Gore-The Pitt.esp

dD-More Gore-BrokenSteel.esp

dD-More Gore-PointLookout.esp

dD-More Gore-Zeta.esp

dD-Full Screen Blood.esp

dD-Larger Blood.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Increased Spawns.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Linged.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore PointLookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.esp

EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp

EVE - FWE Master Release.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced B-S).esp

Megaton Walkway.esp

norepairneededv2.esp

all_key fallout3.esp

Weight.esp

100% Force Lock Chance.esp

100% Pick Pocket Chance.esp

Mysteriouswoman_dressncoat.esp

Tailor Maid.esp

Tailor Maid Anchorage.esp

Tailor Maid PITT.esp

Tailor Maid Brokensteel.esp

Tailor Maid ZETA.esp

Tailor Maid Black Retex.esp

Animy_prostitution.esp

R18BodyPack.esp

Speech,Hack and Max Level.esp

KillableKidsNormalHealth.esp

Megaton Tweaks 1.28 (no podium).esp

FasterMorePowerfulMines.esp

FleshBurningPlasma.esp

Owned!.esp

ArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.esp

SeducedDLC03.esp

NotSoFast.esp

HeirApparent.esp

IntoTheDeepWoods.esp

ShadySands.esp

MegatonContracts.esp

MegatonContracts-Linged.esp

K2_PlayWearClub.esp

01AtM - Firefly Ranch.esp

MiniHideout.esp

UndergroundHideout.esp

BoS_FOOKedition_Armor.esp

ZL-SVD-CALIBR.esp

1alexscorpionsnipergear.esp

Persona_and_Secret.esp

DIM TYPE3 conversions.esp

Amy_Armor.esp

novanillaedit.esp

UPP - Pack 1.esp

UPP - Pack 2.esp

UPP - Original Perks.esp

UPP - Experience Perks.esp

UPP - Beverage Perks.esp

UPP - Quest Perks.esp

AllUniquesAdded.esp

Nuclear Launchers.esp

japanese_armor_set.esp

NAPA.esp

Akira - Simple Silenced SMG.esp

PersonalTerminal.esp

AsharasBatmanItems.esp

3EFdrg.esp

Dragonskin Tactical Outfit.esp

DragonskinBonusPack.esp

WinterizedT51bDX.esp

Tribal_DX.esp

Outcast DX.esp

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

DUIF3Extras.esp

Crusaders Armor.esp

 

Total active plugins: 156

Total plugins: 160

[Volek]

Wow thats quite a bunch of mods. And quite a weird bunch of errors you got there. Well i once experienced similar problems, so i hope these tips help:

 

Disable ALL mods and DLCs, keep only Alternate start. create character, type tmm 1 in console, warp to Megaton and see if it works.

If not, then you gotta re-install i think. If it works, save your game, exit and enable some mods. Load your game. If it works enable more and more, and so on. You could also start a new game every now and then and warp to Megaton just to be sure if it works with a new char.

 

With this method i could get my fubar fallout back to work.

 

About your load order, i'll just post my ESM load order, try arranging your Esm files like this:

 

[X] Fallout3.esm

[X] Lings.esm

[ ] HairPack.esm (currently not activated cos i use Lings Coiffure which is better, but i always loaded it right before the DLCs and it worked fine)

[X] Anchorage.esm

[X] ThePitt.esm

[X] BrokenSteel.esm

[X] PointLookout.esm

[X] Zeta.esm

[X] CALIBR.esm

[X] CRAFT.esm

[X] 20th Century Weapons.esm

[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

[X] Sharing and Caring Companions.esm

[X] DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

[X] LingsFinerThings.esm

 

Try arranging the DLCs in the order in which they came out.

Try deactivating Hairpack.esm and all ESPs that use it, because you got Lings Coiffure which adds the same haircuts and more.

Most of the ESP-only mods you have, well i never heard of them, so i cant help with that, sorry.

 

Oh and i really hope you installed ArchiveInvalidation Invalidated, or use FOMM to apply Invalidation. Some of the errors you described sound like you didnt.

And also check your FO3 folders, see if theres any textures or meshes folder, or bsa file that doesnt belong there. Happened to me that i accidently installed a mod's textures and meshes into the FO3 root folder instead of the Data folder.

 

Thats all i can contribute, good luck!

-Volek

 

PS: please tell us which FO3 version you have installed. might help someone to indentify the problem. I updated to 1.4 and my game works like a charm with 160+ mods, no crashes, wierd errors etc.

[marius127]

yoooooo dude no need big thinking juts reinstall game store your saves somewhere and dont have so much mods coz too alot mods its like having too alot of candy and get dizzy

[Quetzlsacatanango]

I realize that Charles Dickens above probably solved your issue but I will take a crack at it anyway :)

 

Load order notwithstanding, you probably have too many mods. Yes, I know the max is supposed to be 250 something. Remove a few that don't contain perks until your meshes/textures show up correctly again. Then add one at a time until it breaks. That is the Number Of Doom.

 

I predict that you will find that it doesn't matter what mods you add or remove, as long as you stay under the NOD, you will be fine. I don't know what causes it, and therefore can't really fix it, but I have seen several people have the issue (including myself obviously). The easiest workaround I have found, that still lets you run all your mods, is to combine separate mods into a single plugin. Clothes work well for this as they don't get updated too much and there's no sound path to worry about.

 

Good luck.