Two questions.....

[Tamujiin]

3 questions i guess , I dont feel like looking at a thousand posts to find a simple answer. So i'll ask it again, Do you use fransesco's monsters in an fcom build or not?

 

And What is the Jesus stance thing on dead bodys i find sometimes? Is there a fix for it? If so can you post a link, or address? And

 

Make it three, In an fcom build it seems i am missing 1 mesh , It could be Tie in im not sure, but when i get to a "merchant dude" standing by a roadsign, there is a small exclamation point........any ideas?

 

I have just a FCOM build installed.Tie in and optional tie in files Exenems runeskulls, and mosrt optional FCOM files also.

[Khet]

You run Francesco's .esms (both of them) and Chances of Stronger Enemies, Stronger Bosses, More enemies and Leveled guards... But unless I'm forgetting something those are the only files from Fran that you run. The rest is taken care of by other mods of FCOM or the FCOM files themselves.

 

 

I've never heard of a "jesus stance" got more info?

 

What's the exclamation point? Is it near him, on him, where? Screenshot preferable. It is a missing mesh, but without seeing it, can't even tell you where to begin hunting for answers. If you even know how to navigate the CS you can find out the cause yourself. Load up all the FCOM files and hunt for the merchant, then try to figure out which item/object it is, if it is indeed the NPC itself.

[Tamujiin]

You run Francesco's .esms (both of them) and Chances of Stronger Enemies, Stronger Bosses, More enemies and Leveled guards... But unless I'm forgetting something those are the only files from Fran that you run. The rest is taken care of by other mods of FCOM or the FCOM files themselves.

 

 

I've never heard of a "jesus stance" got more info?

 

What's the exclamation point? Is it near him, on him, where? Screenshot preferable. It is a missing mesh, but without seeing it, can't even tell you where to begin hunting for answers. If you even know how to navigate the CS you can find out the cause yourself. Load up all the FCOM files and hunt for the merchant, then try to figure out which item/object it is, if it is indeed the NPC itself.

 

Buddah told me the jesus thing is from streamline i got that fixed. And i guess i have a full FCOM install then cause i have exactly everything you say, nothing else. Will post a screen shot next time i find that.

 

Now the question is, what makes oblivion crash overtime? I'll be playing at around 40 fps but then the game will crash suddenly after about an hour....could this be a memory issue?

[Khet]

Nope. It's a mod issue. There are two types of mods. Addition mods and Change mods.

 

Addition mods are simple. They add new stuff. Say they add a script, or a set of armor, or whatever. They play nice.

 

Change mods are a bit more complicated. Those kinds of mods change "existing" data. Take a bandit, set his health to 900, and save it as an .esp. That's a change mod.

 

Overhauls combine the two mod types (especially FCOM, which combines Overhauls)

 

Running just a single overhaul MAY cause crashes. This depends on how well the overhaul was built, and what other mods you have running.

 

FCOM however, makes a TON of changes. Sometimes, things go wonky and you crash. It's a fault of FCOM itself most of the time. Now, take FCOM and run 138 mods (like me) and you have a decent chance of crashing if your load order is wrong. Load order makes a HUGE difference. I'd recommend getting BOSS (Better Oblivion Sorting Software) for general load order, but you'll still have to tweak things by hand with OBMM.

[Tamujiin]

Actually i have boss, and believe it....nothing is conflicting in wrye bash. i will tweek it with Obmm though. it crashes every 30 minutes or so.

[Khet]

Hehe, "Nothing is conflicting" always makes me chuckle. Mods always conflict. They can't help but sneeze at each other. The more you run the worse it gets. With a boss load order I would crash maybe once every couple of hours. With boss plus my own hand tweaking, I crash at most a couple times a day if I'm playing most the day.

[Tamujiin]

TamrielTravellers.esm

FCOM_Convergence.esm

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Lattamerv3.esm

TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp

TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

FCOM_Francescos.esp

FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp

FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp

AWS-ShiveringIsles.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Adult Books.esp

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

SI Living Economy.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

BlackLuster.esp

BlackLuster 2SwordStyle.esp

Ghogiels Armor.esp

Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp

New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

pale_rider's Armory of The Divine Guardian.esp

pale_rider's Armory of the Berserker.esp

tda_Armoury Beta v1_2.esp

AncientTowers.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

ExnemRuneskulls.esp

FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp

Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp

Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

FCOM_BobsArmory.esp

Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

FCOM_WarCry.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

FCOM_Convergence.esp

FCOM_RealSwords.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp

TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp

TIE In.esp

TIE In - ExnemRuneskulls.esp

TIE In - RealSwords.esp

TIE In - DiverseGuardUnity.esp

TIE In - BobsGuardUnity.esp

OOO-WaterFish.esp

aaaWindSpear.esp

Adult_BookStore.esp

ArmoryLab.esp

ArmoryLab better armory.esp

Gift of Kynareth.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp

GlenvarCastle.esp

Naughty_Joana_01.esp

TheForgottenShields.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp

DLCfrostcrag.esp

Knights.esp

TIE In - Knights.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp

ElsweyrAnequina.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

WindspearTower-StendarrValley compatibility patch.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp

Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

mythsandlegends.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp

xulRollingHills_EV.esp

MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

Bag of Holding.esp

gardening.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp

Unlimited Rings 1.0.esp

Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp

Unlimited Amulets and Rings - Shivering Isles.esp

TIE In - Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

TIE In - DLCOrrery.esp

TIE In - DLCThievesDen.esp

TIE In - DLCFrostcrag.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

RD-HeavensWrath-v1-1-Easy.esp

SupremeMagicka.esp

SM_ShiveringIsles.esp

SM_DLCSpellTome.esp

SM_OOO.esp

SM_MMM.esp

SM_EnchantStaff.esp

SM_VanillaSpells.esp

SM_UnlockSpells.esp

SM_NoSpellLights.esp

SM_Scrolls.esp

SM_SigilStone.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

SM_DeadlyReflex.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp

Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

Elves Of Lineage II.esp

Beautiful People.esp

IDKRRR_C_race.esp

Chocolate Elves.esp

Real Lava v1.2.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Shadow Legion Armor.esp

Slof's Sexy Armors.esp

KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

GiftOfKynareth-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

X.Races.Comp.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

Conan Swords - Atlantean Fur Scabbard.esp

LattamerV3_P-rrtyCure_Hair_Module.esp

SSA.esp

Slof's Even More Male Things.esp

TrawlolsCorinthianGladiator.esp

JannetEveningDress.esp

Underworld Armor.esp

Elsweyr Color Map.esp

UnlimitedTraining.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

 

Thats my load order, after running boss. there obviously something is screwed up. Game runs great then crashes about 1/2 into playing. If you got the time Tell me what im doing wrong cause i have put everything that comes up "unknown" in the front so it loads first. I did do a clean install before i did the FCOM thing.

This is my OBMM load order. And actually i have tweeked and tweeked it. but im tired of opening and closing OBMM cause for some reason it takes 5 minutes to close the window.

 

What you could do is post yer modorder so i can see what is messed up...if you have an FCOM install.

[Khet]

I've an FCOM. But you should fix your load order. Placing mods that BOSS sees as "unknown" which means it's not in the master list is bad. Learn how to manually order mods and do it to the unknown mods. That could be causing a problem.

 

http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/loadorder.html Load Order Guide

 

As for my load order...

 

 

 

Oblivion.esm

Jog_X_Mod.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

FCOM_Convergence.esm

Armamentarium.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

CM Partners.esm

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Better Cities .esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

FCOM_Francescos.esp

FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp

FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

300_Combat Sounds.esp

Ultimate 3rd Person Camera.esp

personality_idles4.esp

Redecoration.esp

Living Economy.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

BlackLuster.esp

Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp

StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp

Armamentium female.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

ExnemRuneskulls.esp

FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

FCOM_Cobl.esp

Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

FCOM_BobsArmory.esp

Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

FCOM_WarCry.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

FCOM_Convergence.esp

FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp

ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp

ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp

Fransfemale.esp

OOO-Armor.esp

MMM-Cobl.esp

Nightshade_Armor.esp

thievery.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

Knights.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRollingHills_EV.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

sr_retroactive_health.esp

StarX Vanilla Vampires Revised.esp

LTDVampireOverhaul.esp

AgarMoreVariedSpellEffects.esp

SpellSinger.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp

Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp

DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp

Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp

Cobl Races.esp

Beautiful People.esp

CM Partners.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

Cobl Races - Balanced.esp

Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

BCBravilFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp

BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp

BCCheydinhalFULL-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

BCSkingrad-SkingradOutskirts patch.esp

Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp

Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp

Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp

SS-GenderIndependentClothing v1.0.esp

 

 

 

 

That's most of it. The rest are basically just quest mods such as Malevolent and others that I never want to run all the time. Also I removed four mods from the list for various reasons. They minor tweaks and such made for personal use.

[Tamujiin]

Kudo's to you khet, yer pactience is badass. I thank you. just for the load order how too link, i thank you very much. That should solve my problems hopefully!

[Khet]

If it's a mod conflict issue, definately. Otherwise, it could be just that some of your mods cannot play well together. They exist. If you run Mod A you cannot run Mod B because of C reason.