Game won't start with SKSE loader

[plaguu]

Hello everyone!

 

Woe is me for I have a problem with the SKSE loader: it doesn't want to start (it has worked in the past - 30 minutes ago).

 

Computer: It's a desktop HP Compaq 8200 Elite MT PC with Intel Core i7-2600 CPU (3,40 GHz) and 8 GB of RAM. 64-bit. The graphics card is AMD Radeon HD 7700 series. Only 26 GB out of 456 GB free on my C drive; the other drives have next to no space. I am the only user and administrator on this computer.

 

Game: Located in the usual place (C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim). Current version is 1.9.32.0, I think (moused over TESV.exe in the Skyrim folder). I have all the DLCs (Dawnguard, Dragonborn, Hearthfire and the free "High res texture pack" that Steam offers). I am using SKSE (obviously), version 1.07.01. I am also using FNIS (Fores New Idles I believe) 5.1.1 and SkyUI (no idea which version, but it's old at least 1 if not 2 years). As of 1 hour ago I also have BOSS installed. BOSS log (pls no judgerino), which hopefully also shows the load order:

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

Update.esm Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Dawnguard.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 619 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

HearthFires.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 184 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Dragonborn.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 61 ITM, 8 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Falskaar.esm Version 1.1.2 Active

Wyrmstooth.esp Version 1.10 Active

ApachiiHair.esm Version 1.4 Active

AzarHair.esm Active

AmethystHollowsMaster.esm Active

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Version 3.1 Active

hdtHighHeel.esm Active

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Active

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm Version 2.05.021 Active

SexLab.esm Version 1.58b Active

SexLabAroused.esm Active

SGHairPackBase.esm Active

SkyMoMod.esm Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

HighResTexturePack01.esp Active

HighResTexturePack02.esp Active

HighResTexturePack03.esp Active

Brawl Bugs CE.esp Active

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Version 1.0.3 Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active

ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp Active

FISS.esp Active

LoversComfort.esp Active

MF_RadiantProstitution.esp Active

NPC Bartering.esp Version 0.4 Active

SkyMoMod Extras Conjuration.esp Active

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active

Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

SkyUI.esp Version 4.1 Active

Customizable Camera.esp Active

Bigger Badder Lich King Version 2.0.esp Active

Cloaks - Player Only.esp Active

Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN.esp Active

Daedric Mage Armor.esp Active

DaggerCraft.esp Active

DonMichHeels.esp Active

EagleSword.esp Active

GDZZJJDH.esp Active

Immersive Weapons.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

isilnarsil.esp Active

LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp

NewJewelleryGems.esp Active

NN_ArwenWBDresses.esp Active

One handed Crossbow.esp Active

R18pn - lingerie Set.esp Active

R18pn - Shanoa Armors.esp Active

Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp Active

SauronsArmor.esp Active

SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp Active

Note: Be sure you have the correct body mod for the esp. DIMONIZED UNP or CBBE.

Strap.esp Active

Unique Uniques.esp Version 1.5 Active

Warglaive of Azzinoth.esp Active

Witch Of The Wild.esp Active

AmethystHollowsUpdate.esp Active

Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp

Requires: CBBE

Contains dirty edits: 9 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

ArtifactOverhaul.esp Active

ImmersiveFP.esp Active

Lord of Illusion Ring.esp Active

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp Version 2.05.030 Active

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp Active

SOS - Dawnguard Armors.esp Active

SOS - Dragonborn Armors.esp Active

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp Version 3.1- Active

Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Version 3.1- Active

Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp Version 3.1 Active

ASX_Spells.esp Active

Balanced_Magic.esp Active

MasterIllusionCapRemover.esp Active

SexLab Enchantress.esp Version 2.3 Active

Sindragosa.esp Active

spelltomeconjureetherealhorse.esp Active

DragonFire-Dragonborn.esp Active

FNISspells.esp Active

Paralysis in Illusion.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

EnchantingAwakened.esp Version 1.60 Active

Enchanting Freedom.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp Version 1.8 Active

Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Conjuration Perks Overhaul.esp Active

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp Active

SGHairPackAIO.esp Active

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Version 8 Active

Kate.esp Active

FollowerWander2.esp Active

Spousetocustomhome.esp Active

FollowerWander2Serana.esp Active

CharacterMakingExtender.esp Active

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp Active

Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp Active

Clean Invisibility Effects plus Eyes Fix.esp Active

Glowtastic.esp Active

WATER.esp Version 1.6b Active

The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed.

Skyrim.esm Active

Skyrim.esm Active

ShadowNecklaces.esp Active

lurker.esp Active

DelusionTest.esp Active

VelvetRobesandCloaks.esp Active

BlackLaceMiniDress.esp Active

KhalSpellmakingMod.esp Active

Warhammer Sorceress Robes.esp Active

 

My game has been working perfectly with no new mods installed for almost a week. Then I entered the alchemist shop in Markarth, received a blue screen and ever since the SKSE version of the game won't start. The screen goes black as normal, but before it gets to the Bethesda logo it gives me the "Skyrim has stopped working" error and closes the whole thing. The non-SKSE version of the game starts normally, but the last autosave (inside the alchemist shop) takes forever to load and the game stops responding. Older saves still work.

 

I have tried many things, including:

-restarting my computer

-deleting the apparently corrupted autosave

-deleting the mods that BOSS said should be deleted for whatever reason

-reinstalling SKSE with the installer

-manually reinstalling SKSE

-deleting the SKSE folder from the Documents\My Games\Skyrim folder (suggestion found on Google)

-running SKSE as administrator

-running SKSE from the source folder

-running SKSE a thousand times and hoping it would magically work

-verifying the game cache (1 file failed to verify)

-deleting the .ini files in the Documents\My Games\Skyrim folder

-disabling all mods in case any of them are causing the crash (I take it this means the mods aren't the cause of this)

 

Right now I am in the middle of reinstalling the whole damn thing.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Edited July 22, 2014 by plaguu

[gamefever]

First thing,

Don't use BOSS, use Loot. Loot is made by same Authors and its developed to actually function pretty much how BOSS does without having to maintain a BOSS Library by actually looking at the mod in some way.

 

I have like 190 plugins and across 2 characters up top level 40 not once had to move an esp myself.

 

2nd Thing,

If you've been playing with the same setup for 2 weeks and only just suddenly had an issue, without having installed mods, w/o having installed updates (Hey I have a saying if it isn't broken don't update it)

 

Alright so here's whats possible,

1) Most likely you've been trucking along and things seemed fine but as more script mods started to finally activate during the course of play your script lag reached critical and crashed your game. Fixable

2) As you were playing the number of orphan scripts built up did the same as above. This could mean bad mod or too heavy script load. This is fixable.

3) Your computer could be in trouble, you mentioned "Blue Screen" the color blue and computer are never a good sign, usually this is accompanied by freeze, ctd, total computer lock up and it doesn't get better or go away on its own.

 

Fix for 1 and 2

Basically its time to optimize your game,

SMME

ENB Booster

Skyrim Configulator (try threading options, not garunteed and can make your game worse, it is known to work with I5 processors)

Ordinator Textures

One Tweak

 

Look around for papyrus tweaks, I don't put faith in this most tweaks come at a cost of performance somewhere else like frame rates >< but the upside is your scripts will function better.

 

Making changes to SKSE.ini

[GENERAL]

clearinvalidregistrations=1

 

(kills off orphan scripts via skse)

 

Please note that these will help but isn't a license to just go crazy, use some restraint and be aware are you trying to play an action game or a pretty game, what kind of game is it that you want is the most important thing about modding. I try to really focus in on that when I play and make choices carefully on that mods that don't enhance what I want to have happen to the core idea in mind get cut out...

 

So its like this if Im playing a vampire, Frostfall gets cut. Playing a Seccubus, doesn't make sense to also have a Needs mod in there.

 

Going for a Full on needs play through I toss all the vamp/were whatever stuff out

 

Going for a screenshot focus playthrough, I toss all combat overhauls all needs stuff goes, and set game for easy and get my print screen button ready.

 

 

As to your computer,

Might want to do maintance on it,

Defrag the Drive overnight,

Double check your updates,

Run some virus scans

Make sure you have a backup around,

Make sure you got a restore option, where's your copy of Windows, might need that soon.

Check you video driver and see if changing that out helps, sometimes those get downloaded wrong

 

 

 

Those are just some things you can do to prevent

[gamefever]

If you've already reinstalled the game

 

Its time to consider again which Mod Handler your going to use for gaming,

 

NMM, is really for beginners and it doesn't handle huge amounts of mods very well, it has severe limitations for handling the kind of lists that I often see gamers bringing to bear here in the troubleshooting section.

 

Honest, you need to strongly consider making a switch to a better platform to suit your gaming needs.

 

Mod Organizer,

Keeps your mods in separate virtual folders. This means that when a mod is installed it doesn't overwrite the main game folder and it doesn't overwrite another mod. It goes into its own folder.

-Your game folder stays "virgin"

-Your Mods keep their hands to themselves

 

How it handles Load orders and Conflict Overwrites

-There are 2 window planes

-Left window plane determines how mod information actually is supposed to Overwrite prior mods, it even gives you a list of what has been overwritten and signs that it has overwritten something, it could just be a mesh or texture but what you want to know is it overwriting a script, NMM never lets you do this.

-If you don't like how it overwrites you change it by dragging around the order of the mods overwrite folders, to do that in NMM you have to entirely uninstall the mods and carefully install them in the order you want.

-With MO you still get load order by ESP just like NMM

 

Now lets say you want to entirely disable a mod for testing purposes,

-With MO you just uncheck the mod in left plane, its still installed into its virtual folder and since its separated into its folder you don't wait for an uninstall. Thing is the mod wont load cause MO wont tell the game about it cause its unchecked and it wont be in the virtual list that is built for loading by MO.

-With NMM you get the joy of having to uninstall the mod, double check the integrity of your game folder, and you have to check and make sure that vital files needed by other mods you installed were not inadvertently removed during this process, meaning that uninstalling a mod in NMM can have extreme far reaching consequences to the entirety of your game.

 

Example,

You uninstall a Follower mod that made a change to the Follower.Script, NMM see's that it needs to remove Follower.Script to entirely remove that mod, BUT follower.script was installed by SKSE.

Without knowing it at some point in the future you cannot hire a follower because this vital script was removed during the uninstallation of your follower mod....

Have fun trying to solve that.

Edited July 22, 2014 by gamefever

[plaguu]

Thank you for the advice and help, gamefever.

Though I don't understand what any of the fixes you suggested do (I'm bad at things like these), I'll give them a go and see if they work. Since I'll be starting fresh (obviously I made backups of my saves and mods etc), I'll also try to reduce the number of modd. I've never used NMM because I find copypasting files from one folder into another to be easy enough even for me. Since that meant overriding some game files I've always made a backup of them in the mod's original folder. This Mod Organizer you've mentioned sounds brilliant. I'll definitely use that, thanks!! As for the computer fixes; I dearly hope this isn't an even larger issue and that they won't be necessary.

I'm still 30 minutes away from reinstalling the game (I have no almost no internet speed) but I'll post later to update the situation.

[gamefever]

There was a way to reinstall skyrim extremely quickly I cant remember all the steps but,

 

It involved copying the Skyrim ESM's you know the really big files,

 

Then what I did was delete everything manually and place a copy of ESM's back into the folder

 

After that I would just verify the cache in Steam,

 

Cut down on reinstall for me by several hours. I think it takes like 10 minutes after that.

[plaguu]

I've just finished reinstalling and redownloading mods. That Mod Organizer is incredible! The SKSE game works now, the mods aren't tampering with the original game files, I have multiple mod profiles so I don't use every single mod on every single character, so there should be a smaller chance of overloading the game. I've even found new mods for the water.

Thank you again gamefever, without your help this would have just repeated itself after a couple of weeks or months, now my game should be a lot more stable. Plus the mods are ridiculously easy to install and manage now. Thanks!

[ToxicMonoLocoo]

Hello, guys, I know probably I won't get a response but, I got Skyrim SE, And SKSE Didn't let launch the game anymore, I'm reinstalling everything, @plaguu, based on what you did, could you give me any intructions? I'm reinstalling Skyrim because this error, and I need help... Hey, and @gamefever, if you could help me, I would be greatefull.

Edited January 30, 2019 by ToxicMonoLocoo