Oblivion Bad performance (read the details on the post)

[Javalin]

I was told the other day, that theres something about Windows 7 that puts your standard frame rates through the floor.

Guess its just another flaw in Microsoft Products.

 

 

A friend of mine upgraded his graphics card to a 1GBx2 HD. But he gets even less frames than my 512 standard. (GeForce 9500GS)

 

 

 

Say you downgraded to Vista or Windows XP. In theory, you'd have your frames go up.

 

By the way, the standard amount of frames I get is: between 35-50

[Foxzone91]

I was told the other day, that theres something about Windows 7 that puts your standard frame rates through the floor.

Guess its just another flaw in Microsoft Products.

 

 

A friend of mine upgraded his graphics card to a 1GBx2 HD. But he gets even less frames than my 512 standard. (GeForce 9500GS)

 

 

 

Say you downgraded to Vista or Windows XP. In theory, you'd have your frames go up.

 

By the way, the standard amount of frames I get is: between 35-50

 

Hehehe, should be the way around, since Vista is a resource hungry OS...

 

U got a 5770 too?

[przemekG]

There is no FPS cap in PC version of Oblivion, the only thing limiting your fps is vsync, ie. @1024x768 my monitor refresh rate is 85Hz, @1152x768 its 75Hz, @1280x1024 its 60Hz - so with vsync enabled your fps wont go above your monitor refresh rate.

And Oblivion still is, after all those years, very resource hungry - even Morrowind cant run well on my PC (well it doesnt meet standards - a 2002 game in 2010 should run with maximum fps, but its playable).

To make Oblivion run more or less good Ive found those tweaks really usefull:

uInterior Cell Buffer=6

uExterior Cell Buffer=72

iPreloadSizeLimit=104857600

>>>>>rising these further derceased my performance, keeping it smaller caused too much stuttering - game was loading data to often;

iActorShadowCountExt=5

iActorShadowCountInt=10

>>>>>>>>>on my system shadows in oblivion arent that big performance hit, but lowering exterior shadows helps a little; besides - if I remember correctly - Fallout 3 have much lower values for shadows and still looks good (I think it has around 5-6 for shadows - correct me if I am wrong here)'

You can also choose to run your game with max shadows and instead lower the resolution for shadows:

iShadowMapResolution=256 or 512

Making the grass less tense really helps too:

iMinGrassSize=100 or even 120

 

Im not sure how much of improvement is turning on all threaded optimizations and background loading - but ive set all those values to 1.

 

Also disable saving on wait, travel, and transitions beetween exterior and interior cells:

bSaveOnInteriorExteriorSwitch=0

bSaveOnTravel=0

bSaveOnWait=0

 

If youre not using Streamline or anything like that:

bSelectivePurgeUnusedOnFastTravel=1

bPreemptivelyUnloadCells=1

 

I am using Streamline (only the "streampurge" feature) so I keep bPreemptivelyUnloadCells at 0.

 

All those tweaks wont help like they could if your HDD is heavly fragmented and if youre using a lot of mods and dont care about such things like mods load order and so on.

Also a good driver for your GPU is needed; for example Ive found latest nvidia drivers (197.45) really good for Oblivion - and I run every driver from that 190 series, but the lastest one is very smooth; I dont know about ATI.

 

(My PC: C2D e6750, GF 8800GT 512MB, 4GB RAM ddr2 800, Windows 7 x64).

[forli]

After upgrading your pc, have you deleted your oblivion.ini (the one in .../my games/oblivion)?

Otherwise, the settings in your .ini file still refer to your old hardware

 

Delete it, so the game create a new one based on your new hardware.

[Foxzone91]

There is no FPS cap in PC version of Oblivion, the only thing limiting your fps is vsync, ie. @1024x768 my monitor refresh rate is 85Hz, @1152x768 its 75Hz, @1280x1024 its 60Hz - so with vsync enabled your fps wont go above your monitor refresh rate.

And Oblivion still is, after all those years, very resource hungry - even Morrowind cant run well on my PC (well it doesnt meet standards - a 2002 game in 2010 should run with maximum fps, but its playable).

To make Oblivion run more or less good Ive found those tweaks really usefull:

uInterior Cell Buffer=6

uExterior Cell Buffer=72

iPreloadSizeLimit=104857600

>>>>>rising these further derceased my performance, keeping it smaller caused too much stuttering - game was loading data to often;

iActorShadowCountExt=5

iActorShadowCountInt=10

>>>>>>>>>on my system shadows in oblivion arent that big performance hit, but lowering exterior shadows helps a little; besides - if I remember correctly - Fallout 3 have much lower values for shadows and still looks good (I think it has around 5-6 for shadows - correct me if I am wrong here)'

You can also choose to run your game with max shadows and instead lower the resolution for shadows:

iShadowMapResolution=256 or 512

Making the grass less tense really helps too:

iMinGrassSize=100 or even 120

 

Im not sure how much of improvement is turning on all threaded optimizations and background loading - but ive set all those values to 1.

 

Also disable saving on wait, travel, and transitions beetween exterior and interior cells:

bSaveOnInteriorExteriorSwitch=0

bSaveOnTravel=0

bSaveOnWait=0

 

If youre not using Streamline or anything like that:

bSelectivePurgeUnusedOnFastTravel=1

bPreemptivelyUnloadCells=1

 

I am using Streamline (only the "streampurge" feature) so I keep bPreemptivelyUnloadCells at 0.

 

All those tweaks wont help like they could if your HDD is heavly fragmented and if youre using a lot of mods and dont care about such things like mods load order and so on.

Also a good driver for your GPU is needed; for example Ive found latest nvidia drivers (197.45) really good for Oblivion - and I run every driver from that 190 series, but the lastest one is very smooth; I dont know about ATI.

 

(My PC: C2D e6750, GF 8800GT 512MB, 4GB RAM ddr2 800, Windows 7 x64).

 

Believe me, I tried everything... I sent the Graphics card for possible repairs today. So im stuck (AGAIN!) with my ASUS EAH 2600 XT.

Unistalled the drivers and installed the new one, started the game and.... Blue screen... no, not BSOD, the screen is just blue... I can go/see the iventory, HUDs,.... but the rest is blue...

 

I dunno what to do anymore...

[Xtudo]

You have to redo your Oblivion.ini file (delete or rename it).

 

Also try Oblivion Stutter Remover.

 

Also disable V-Sync.

[przemekG]

Yeah, after installing new gpu drivers just start oblivion launcher again and it will show the message it usually shows when running it for the first time (detecting hardware - or something) and then adjust game options and close the launcher (if youre using obse to launch oblivion). Deleting the ini files will do the same trick.

Those tweaks Ive posted are really just basic tweaks to do to Oblivion no matter how powerful hardware you have - and quad core cpu and 5 series Radeon is sure enough, should be -

But from what youre saying your problem may be more serious - maybe that new Radeon is too psu hungry? How much watts you have in your power supply unit?

(I dont know much about graphics setting on Radeons, but maybe check in your gpu control panel youre not forcing anything unnecesarry.

Also check your temps while playing with MSI afterburner or EVGA Precision (Afterburner has nice feature that allows you to adjust your fan speed by just dragging a curve on a graph.)

[Foxzone91]

You have to redo your Oblivion.ini file (delete or rename it).

 

Also try Oblivion Stutter Remover.

 

Also disable V-Sync.

 

Done - Did nothing at all...

 

Done - doesn't help (even with my old one it did not help at all)

 

Do... do you take me for a fool? I never enable it...

[Foxzone91]

Yeah, after installing new gpu drivers just start oblivion launcher again and it will show the message it usually shows when running it for the first time (detecting hardware - or something) and then adjust game options and close the launcher (if youre using obse to launch oblivion). Deleting the ini files will do the same trick.

Those tweaks Ive posted are really just basic tweaks to do to Oblivion no matter how powerful hardware you have - and quad core cpu and 5 series Radeon is sure enough, should be -

But from what youre saying your problem may be more serious - maybe that new Radeon is too psu hungry? How much watts you have in your power supply unit?

(I dont know much about graphics setting on Radeons, but maybe check in your gpu control panel youre not forcing anything unnecesarry.

Also check your temps while playing with MSI afterburner or EVGA Precision (Afterburner has nice feature that allows you to adjust your fan speed by just dragging a curve on a graph.)

 

It needs a 450W PSU... I had a generic 300W one, I bought a 650 Antec PSU.

 

The temprature is fine, even with Overclock it doesnt go up much (I only got it to 53º after 3 hours of STALKER Call of Prypiat).

 

I have sent it for repairs, hopefully it had some sort of malfunction and they will replace it... otherwise, I'll format my PC, might be something in here...

[Xtudo]

"Do... do you take me for a fool? I never enable it... " Sorry hehehe :blush:

 

I remember that something like that was discussed in the Bethesa Official forums, but can't tell were :(

 

Oblivion Stutter Remover comes with most of the features off as standard, check the readme to activate them.

 

It could be CPU related... there is some tweaks for deativate some cores, Oblivion don't like multi-cores (more than 2).

 

And the best for Oblivion is Windows XP.

 

Good luck!