CTD upon Entering THIS cell.

[Hazencruz]

Ok, every time I set foot in the Cell that's pictured below, I get a CTD.

 

I've tagged everything in Wrye Bash that BOSS suggested, Rebuilt the patch checking off everything I wanted to merge into it, even updated my OOO and MMM files [cleaned off all the old of MMM, and reinstalled 3.7b3, patched OOO to 1.34.] I still get a CTD every time i go to that cell.

 

Anyone ever experienced a persistent CTD related to a particular cell? How'd you resolve it?

 

I have no idea what cell this is, or how to give you a quantitative name for it. If anyone can tell me how to do that, that'd be great and I'd be happy to provide you with that information.

 

 

 

 

 

Mods [Load order]

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Oblivion.esm

ScreenEffects.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm

Armamentarium.esm

Artifacts.esm

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

Open Cities Resources.esm

bookplacing.esm

CM Partners.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

bookplacing.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

LoadingScreens.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tae_CO_RD.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

IlluminationWithin.esp

KF Chapel Shop.esp

P1DseeYouSleep.esp

Slof's Oblivion Pillow Book.esp

Spell Delete.esp

VA_BetterGold.esp

Living Economy.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

Cutthroat Merchants.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp

kdThiefVest.esp

Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp

Slof's Male Clothing.esp

EY_Vampirehunter.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - LessReaversInGates.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp

ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp

ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp

OOO-WaterFish.esp

MMM-Cobl.esp

Artifacts.esp

Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp

BeldaElysium.esp

BravilSeaDomesExpanded.esp

HeartOftheDead.esp

SB IC Palace Tower Light Mod v1.1 - Modified Version.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - The Arcane University Towers Visible From Outside.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

OCC-KR-Patch.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp

OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

BeldaElysium-RollingHills patch.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

Castle_Seaview.esp

Open Cities New Sheoth.esp

Open Cities Outer Districts.esp

Open Cities Full.esp

OCC-OOO-Patch.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

Cliff_BetterLetters.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

Quest Award Leveling.esp

Quest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.esp

ForecastersWill.esp

PJs Disco Spell.esp

PJs Spell Compendium - No Requirements.esp

spelliconreplace.esp

SupremeMagicka.esp

SM_ShiveringIsles.esp

SM_DLCSpellTome.esp

SM_OOO.esp

SM_MMM.esp

SM_COBL.esp

SM_EnchantStaff.esp

SM_Scrolls.esp

SM_SigilStone.esp

MidasSpells.esp

OC+Midas Magic Patch.esp

Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp

Druid.esp

Seph's new animations.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp

Cobl Races.esp

Cobl Races TNR.esp

Cobl Races TNR SI.esp

Cobl Races - Balanced.esp

ScreenControls.esp

Open Cities Road Record.esp

Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

DeadlyReflex - Combat Moves.esp

Deadly Reflex - Timed Block no other changes.esp

Mounted_Spellcasting Deadly Reflex Compatible.esp

FearsomeMagicka.esp

No Sun Damage v1.0.esp

newlifedetect.esp

Morrowind Enchantment Shaders.esp

Manian House.esp

Reanimate.esp

Vampirism2.0.esp

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[Hazencruz]

And I've installed all the plug-ins for OBSE that prevent crashes, dedicated all necessary resources to oblivion, I've read and done everything on this page.

 

This issue still persists.

[Hazencruz]

Everywhere else I've gone [imperial City, Frostcraig Spire (MOVETOQT), and Bruma] don't have this issue. Is it just a wilderness or spawn point issue? How do I tell?

[bben46]

Here is a link to Bben's Crash Help

http://www.tesnexus.com/articles/article.php?id=298.

 

Usually when I see this type of crash it comes from something that was removed and the game is still looking for. The best known example is the Bruma statue bug. Where a statue is made using the the current character as a model. Then the user changes the race of their character. When the new character attempts to enter Bruma the game cannot find the character it used for the statue and crashes.

 

Try going back to a very early save game and see if you can enter the cell. Then if it works, use the feature in OBMM that shows what mods were active and which were not to narrow down what causes it. By jumping to different saves and seeing which saves work and which do not, and what mods were present at the time.

[Hazencruz]

Here is a link to Bben's Crash Help

http://www.tesnexus.com/articles/article.php?id=298.

 

Usually when I see this type of crash it comes from something that was removed and the game is still looking for. The best known example is the Bruma statue bug. Where a statue is made using the the current character as a model. Then the user changes the race of their character. When the new character attempts to enter Bruma the game cannot find the character it used for the statue and crashes.

 

Try going back to a very early save game and see if you can enter the cell. Then if it works, use the feature in OBMM that shows what mods were active and which were not to narrow down what causes it. By jumping to different saves and seeing which saves work and which do not, and what mods were present at the time.

 

 

This is helpful info, I never thought about the game might be looking for something that isn't there...Maybe when I updated some mods this happened.

[Hazencruz]

I figured out something. Its not THAT cell. Its anytime I go to far out of a normal city like bruma, IC, anything. WTF!?

[razorpony]

Could it be something with the LOD maybe? When you get too far out of the cities and the LOD kicks in? Maybe running TES4LODGen would help.

 

-Razorpony

[Balakirev]

There were some issues with Deadly Reflex causing CTDs. You might check to make sure you have the latest version. Also, it no longer goes after your Bashed Patch. Run BOSS to find a reasonably good suggestion for optimal loading location.

[Hazencruz]

There were some issues with Deadly Reflex causing CTDs. You might check to make sure you have the latest version. Also, it no longer goes after your Bashed Patch. Run BOSS to find a reasonably good suggestion for optimal loading location.

 

I'm sing DR4 because i didn't wanna use the beta version of 5 that didn't include some of the stuff.