Missing Human Commoner Origin?

[spinspider]

A glitch caused by a mod that I downloaded caused King Cailan to say some interesting things upon my arrival at Ostagar - he said things that I have never heard before, specifically "Your accent hails from Redcliffe, no?", to which I could respond, "Yes, I was a farmhand there"... or something like that.

 

Now, I KNOW it was only a glitch caused by a misbehaving hack, but it caught my interest because that dialogue does not match up with any of the origins that are available in the game (trust me, because I have played through with ALL of the origins).

 

So, I did some more poking through the gamefiles, and I found several other unused pieces of dialogue that are consistent with what could only be a "Human Commoner" origin. But, there IS no human commoner origin in the game...

 

So, what does this mean? What the heck happened here? I think this is pretty damning evidence that they fully intended to do a Human Commoner origin, but then those flipwits at BioWare scrapped it quite late in development for some odd reason. In my opinion, that was a serious dumb@$$ move, because I think with some effort on their part a Human Commoner origin could have been integrated into the game perfectly, been very interesting and been a lot of fun to play with. I'm very disappointed, I would have really liked to have seen this in the game.

 

Thoughts, opinions on this?

 

And while were on the subject, what origins besides the six that are there would you have liked to have seen? In addition to a Human Commoner, I think I also would have quite liked another magic origin, like an apostate or something. Both would have been so drop dead awesome.

[Kamajii]

There was in fact a human commoner origin early in the development phase that had you starting out as a farmer. Rumor always was that they cut it due to lack of cohesion. It was supposedly "boring" and lacked the luster of the other origins. It was never made clear whether or not it was cut afterwards due to time constraints, poor story direction, or what.

 

Personally, I wouldn't have minded a few more origin options. A human commoner, an escaped slave origin, etc. There's a lot in the game that was cut but the resources that they had up to that point were left in. In most cases, its a starting point for modders. Especially when they can reuse resources.

 

 

Although I don't play mages myself, the lore and origin storylines would have been nice to have there. I was a little sad that there were no apostate origins although with you being forced to partner with an apostate so early on I can understand their reasoning around that. A Dalish magi would have been nice. Of course that'd require more than just a new origin. The Dalish don't practice the same path of magic as the circle. The impossible mage dwarf woulda been great. But don't listen to me.. I also want to somehow discover the last of the living griffins and have it replace dog as my companion and fly on it. :thumbsup:

[DarkeWolf]

Theres some other stuff that theres hidden references to still included in the game, that got scrapped. For instance, there was originally a reference to shale being located in redcliffe, before her owner moved. I think it's if you have shale with you when you go to the tavern in redcliffe that Bella can make a comment about shale being the statue that was outside, or some such.

[Kamajii]

Theres some other stuff that theres hidden references to still included in the game, that got scrapped. For instance, there was originally a reference to shale being located in redcliffe, before her owner moved. I think it's if you have shale with you when you go to the tavern in redcliffe that Bella can make a comment about shale being the statue that was outside, or some such.

 

 

Aye and Lloyd has dialogue about the control rod as well. I believe he was using it to prop up one of the kegs in the back so that it wouldn't tip over.

 

edit: Yup. Here it is http://i42.tinypic.com/16c828y.png

[brokenergy]

There was also the human barbarian from the Frostbacks. There is amusing headstone in Haven which reads

So long horses, capes and barbarians

or such. It would have been fun if Shale was properly implemented in the game (instead of a DLC) and there was a human barbarian origin.

[Kamajii]

Aye, I very much enjoyed spending time reading the headstones in Haven.

[grannywils]

Maybe a quanari origin character would be interesting. At least he or she might be able to make some sense out of Sten. I also like the idea of a human commoner and another magic user.