beepco Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 I know there is a v5. :) Anyway, I have installed Oblivion and v4 before and had no issues. Did a clean install of Oblivion on a new computer and redownloaded all my mods. Installed Robert as I always have, etc etc. Activated the esp... The textures are fine. But the game refuses to acknowledge the Robert's meshes and is instead using the default mesh. I installed Breeze's vascularized normal map and I can see it running over the default mesh. I also use the EVE/HGEC female replacer and have not had any issues. All the other mods launched without issue (using FCOM, bashed patch, etc). The Xivilai race included in COBL Balanced Races (custom body mesh iirc) has the correct mesh and textures. The Demon Hunter race (another custom body mesh?) appears to be using the correct hands and feet but then the vanilla dark/high elf body meshes. I tried disabling all the other race-related mods to see if it was an issue there and there was no effect. Tried deleting the Robert's meshes just to make sure I had the right thing installed and there was no effect (as expected if the game is just using the vanilla meshes). :blink: So yeah, that about describes my saga of the past hour or so. Any ideas? EDIT: Naturally right after I post I think to open the meshes in NifSkope and redate them. Now all races with custom textures are working-- I just need to get proper textures attached to the vanilla race meshes. :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazencruz Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 I know there is a v5. :) Anyway, I have installed Oblivion and v4 before and had no issues. Did a clean install of Oblivion on a new computer and redownloaded all my mods. Installed Robert as I always have, etc etc. Activated the esp... The textures are fine. But the game refuses to acknowledge the Robert's meshes and is instead using the default mesh. I installed Breeze's vascularized normal map and I can see it running over the default mesh. I also use the EVE/HGEC female replacer and have not had any issues. All the other mods launched without issue (using FCOM, bashed patch, etc). The Xivilai race included in COBL Balanced Races (custom body mesh iirc) has the correct mesh and textures. The Demon Hunter race (another custom body mesh?) appears to be using the correct hands and feet but then the vanilla dark/high elf body meshes. I tried disabling all the other race-related mods to see if it was an issue there and there was no effect. Tried deleting the Robert's meshes just to make sure I had the right thing installed and there was no effect (as expected if the game is just using the vanilla meshes). :blink: So yeah, that about describes my saga of the past hour or so. Any ideas? EDIT: Naturally right after I post I think to open the meshes in NifSkope and redate them. Now all races with custom textures are working-- I just need to get proper textures attached to the vanilla race meshes. :wacko: Are you using Wrye Bash? It has a Bashed Feature that helps with this sort of thing, sometimes. Also, post your mod load order from OBMM. Are you using any mods [that load after robert's esp file] that would restore original meshes or something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beepco Posted April 25, 2010 Author Share Posted April 25, 2010 Are you using Wrye Bash? It has a Bashed Feature that helps with this sort of thing, sometimes. Also, post your mod load order from OBMM. Are you using any mods [that load after robert's esp file] that would restore original meshes or something like that? Here's the load list. I use Wrye Bash (w/bashed patch) and BOSS to sort it: Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9] 02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm 03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm 04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] 06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b1] 07 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c] 08 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3] 09 HorseCombatMaster.esm 0A All Spells Avalible for Enchanting and Spell Making.esp 0B Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] 0C UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 0D Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 0E DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0F Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] 10 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp 11 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp 12 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp 13 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp ++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9] 14 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9] 15 Fran Armor Add-on.esp 16 Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp 17 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9] 18 All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9] 19 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp [Version Final] 1A Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp 1B Echo_ChapelChant.esp 1C MIS Low Wind.esp 1D MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp ++ Diverse Voices.esp 1E Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp 1F Elytramount.esp ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76] 20 Lock Bash Omega.esp [Version 1.5] 21 Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp 22 personality_idles4.esp 23 Reznod_Mannequin.esp 24 Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp 25 Living Economy.esp 26 Cutthroat Merchants.esp 27 Improved Hotkeys.esp [Version 1.1] 28 DLCHorseArmor.esp 29 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 2A DLCOrrery.esp 2B DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] 2C DLCVileLair.esp 2D DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 2E DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 2F DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 30 DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] ++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp 31 EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp 32 Bonemold_helmet.esp 33 alllll61-Saint Silver armor.esp 34 ASlof'sBraceletsandClaws.esp 35 AW_Wings.esp [Version 1] 36 Kikai & Slof Clothing.esp 37 Night Knight Armor.esp 38 Slof's Dark Assassin Armour.esp 39 Slof's Eyren Armours.esp 3A Slof's Giger Armour.esp 3B Slof's Male Clothing.esp 3C Slof's Even More Male Things.esp 3D Slof's Neckchains.esp 3E Slof's Robe of the Dark Arts.esp 3F Slof's Persian Outfit For Males.esp 40 Slof and Tanya's Fleshbeast Armour.esp 41 Slof's Wisteria.esp 42 Slof's Thunderbird Armour.esp 43 Slof's Dark Saint.esp 44 Slof's Beaded Armour.esp 45 Gypsy_Clothes.esp 46 Featherwynd - Amazon Priestess.esp 47 HGEC Witch Queen Ritual Robe.esp 48 HGECKoganeHuntressOutfit.esp 49 Armoured Arms Redone.esp 4A Pauldron.esp 4B HGEC_XynthicaArmor.esp 4C mECB_XynthicaArmor.esp 4D Ryk_SorceressArmor.esp 4E DawnWraith.esp 4F Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp 50 Warglaives by Jojjo v1.0.esp 51 EY_Queens Armory.esp 52 RogueLeather.esp 53 Robert Sorcerer.esp 54 NamirasEmbraceArmour.esp 55 Robert Blackluster.esp 56 Robert SinfulMage.esp 57 DLCThievesDen.esp 58 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 59 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] 5A Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp 5B Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 5C Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] 5D OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72] ++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9] 5E Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp 5F FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9] 60 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp 61 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3] 62 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] ++ OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp [Version 1.33] 63 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3] 64 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9] 65 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_LessRats.esp [Version 0.9.9] 66 CurseOfHircine.esp ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b1] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b1] 67 Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp [Version 3.7b1] 68 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b1] 69 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b1] ++ TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp [Version 1.39c] ++ Travellers4MMMHostileFactions.esp [Version 1.39c] 6A TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c] 6B TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c] 6C ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c] ++ ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c] ++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9] 6D Fransfemale.esp 6E OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34] ++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69] ++ EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp 6F EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp 70 Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop.esp 71 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 72 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 73 DLCFrostcrag.esp 74 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 75 Knights.esp 76 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] ++ EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp ++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3] ++ FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp [Version 0.9.9] 77 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.4] 78 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] 79 xulTheHeath.esp 7A XulEntiusGorge.esp 7B xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] 7C xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1] 7D xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] 7E xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4] 7F xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2] 80 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3] 81 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.2] 82 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] 83 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] 84 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3] 85 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] 86 xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp [Version 1.3.2] 87 xulPantherRiver.esp 88 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] 89 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2] 8A xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.3] 8B xulBlackwoodForest.esp 8C xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] 8D xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.1] 8E xulSkingradOutskirts.esp ++ FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9] 8F EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp 90 Kosai's Welkynd Armor.esp 91 Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp [Version 1.1] 92 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00] 93 Slof's Dogs.esp 94 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.1.1] 95 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1] 96 Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0] ++ Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0] 97 Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 2.1.0] 98 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp 99 RealisticForceMedium.esp 9A LTDVampireOverhaul.esp 9B Mark & Recall.esp 9C Telekinetic Mastery.esp [Version 2] 9D SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90] 9E SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86] ++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.80] ++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89] ++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86] 9F SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80] ++ SM_NoSpellLights.esp [Version 0.70] ++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84] ++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83] A0 MidasSpells.esp A1 Vector.esp [Version 0.1] A2 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5] A3 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp ++ SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.86] A4 Druid.esp A5 Oblivion XP.esp [Version 4.1.5] ++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b1] A6 Ice Elves and Wolf Elves.esp A7 DemonRace.esp A8 Kosai's Hellcats.esp A9 DreamWalker.esp AA Capucine's Aquamer Race - Exnem.esp AB Demon Hunter.esp AC Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52] ** Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53] ** Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53] ++ cidnothump.esp ++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52] ++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp ++ Life Detected - OMOD.esp ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] AD Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01] AE Bashed Patch, 0.esp AF Streamline 3.1.esp Since posting the load order I have removed BonemoldHelmet.esp (was only supposed to install the resource for Frans) and EVE_KhajiitFix.esp (was previously useful but now the khajiit texture is completely patchwork so I want to see if this fixes it-- BOSS says it's not needed with Balanced Races). I checked the Slof mods since those are all male clothing, but none of them add their meshes to the _male folder. Only other issues I know of with this load order is that with DemonRace.esp active, the Daedra race from COBL Balanced Races does not appear. I have no idea why. :( I looked through the race files and they all alter meshes in their own folders as far as I can see, not in the _male folder. Redating the meshes (i.e. opening them in Nifskope, saving and overwriting) seems to have worked. It may be because the Steam version is dated newer than the mods? But that doesn't explain why all the other old mods work. I have also managed to reapply some textures (ex. Imperial looks fairly normal except for a few random seams). I just checked and with EVE_KhajiitFix.esp deactivated the khajiit fur is no longer patchwork, but the texture is blurry/wrong. Going to try a texture replacer for them to see if it clears up the problem. Some custom races (ex. Aureal/Mazken from COBL races) appear to be missing textures for males and females, but I think that's a texture install problem on my end so I'll just try reinstalling all those textures. EDIT: Added a khajiit replacer for HGEC and reapplied the EVE_KhajiitFix.esp. Female khajiits are fine now-- males are still messed up but...workable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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