Time:A Rant

[ThomasCovenant]

Why are a great majority of things in FO3 trashed?

[yes, I know about the war.]

The outskirts of DC should be unaffected by the bombs.

It's been how long after the bombs fell that the PC comes out of the vault?

20? or 200 years?

The fallout has fallen out, nature habitually repairs itself, water cannot be irradiated.

Why would anyone drink "heavy water", it's not water.

So no one from outside of DC comes to see if things are still right with America?

The radio stations and some of the electricity still works, meaning the EMP has passed.

No radio from outside of DC?

There are no working farms and no one hunts, and no one is manufacturing food.

They eat, basically, MREs.

The vaults were meant to allow people to live beyond the war, not for crazy experimentation, by an obviously

corrupt corporation.

As usual, only the "best and brightest" would have been chosen to enter the vaults. NOT in the game.

Why is the PIP-BOY so BIG?They had 200(?) years to make it better. Did all of those smart people just sit around and do nothing?

Possible Spoiler Alert Your Dad is no better than anyone else in the game, he seems to care, but ultimately he's a self-absorbed jerk.

[Nihilisaurus]

Why are a great majority of things in FO3 trashed?

[yes, I know about the war.]

 

Subsequent social collapse

 

The outskirts of DC should be unaffected by the bombs.

 

This is Fallout! They rained Nukes on each other like dust in a sandstorm! That's why the Vaults were built!

 

It's been how long after the bombs fell that the PC comes out of the vault?

20? or 200 years?

 

200

 

The fallout has fallen out, nature habitually repairs itself, water cannot be irradiated.

 

Lies, dissolved isotopes, radioactive particles in solution, many of these have half-lives of hundreds of years. Furthermore it can't be a Fallout without Fallout.

 

Why would anyone drink "heavy water", it's not water.

 

Nobody does. They drink Dirty water. Deuterium is ridiculously rare as it needs to be made to get any sizeable amounts.

 

So no one from outside of DC comes to see if things are still right with America?

 

EVERYONE got nuked. EVERYONE. Go watch the FO1 and 2 intros. I reckon even Africa got hit.

 

The radio stations and some of the electricity still works, meaning the EMP has passed.

No radio from outside of DC?

 

Pitt.

 

There are no working farms and no one hunts, and no one is manufacturing food.

They eat, basically, MREs.

 

Yeah, this bothers me too.

 

The vaults were meant to allow people to live beyond the war, not for crazy experimentation, by an obviously

corrupt corporation.

 

No. No. No. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. The vaults were an enclave experiment to gain knowledge of how to repopulate the earth or if it was too screwed to help them relocate to another planet. The Vaults were never made to save anyone. Go look on the vault wiki to see all the crazy poo they dd.

 

As usual, only the "best and brightest" would have been chosen to enter the vaults. NOT in the game.

 

200 years of inbreeding, it's a b*tch.

 

Why is the PIP-BOY so BIG?They had 200(?) years to make it better. Did all of those smart people just sit around and do nothing?

 

Yes. They were in vaults, underground, in small communities, in some cases repairing deliberately faulty gear. Nobody ever invented the microprocessor in FO canon.

 

Possible Spoiler Alert Your Dad is no better than anyone else in the game, he seems to care, but ultimately he's a self-absorbed jerk.

 

Except he dies to save your ass and give everybody fresh water. Sure the way he acts is asshat-ish but I forgive him on the grounds he takes out two guys in APA without so much as raising his fists, and all to save the Player.

[TheOriginalEvilD]

Why are a great majority of things in FO3 trashed?

[yes, I know about the war.]

The outskirts of DC should be unaffected by the bombs.

It's been how long after the bombs fell that the PC comes out of the vault?

20? or 200 years?

The fallout has fallen out, nature habitually repairs itself, water cannot be irradiated.

Why would anyone drink "heavy water", it's not water.

So no one from outside of DC comes to see if things are still right with America?

The radio stations and some of the electricity still works, meaning the EMP has passed.

No radio from outside of DC?

There are no working farms and no one hunts, and no one is manufacturing food.

They eat, basically, MREs.

The vaults were meant to allow people to live beyond the war, not for crazy experimentation, by an obviously

corrupt corporation.

As usual, only the "best and brightest" would have been chosen to enter the vaults. NOT in the game.

Why is the PIP-BOY so BIG?They had 200(?) years to make it better. Did all of those smart people just sit around and do nothing?

Possible Spoiler Alert Your Dad is no better than anyone else in the game, he seems to care, but ultimately he's a self-absorbed jerk.

 

1. because as someone else mentioned, complete social collapse. Things like roads and buildings don't fix themselves, and without people like road crews and construction crews to build, let alone the finances and equipment to build, nothing is going to ever get fixed...and that's assuming that you could work on anything without getting killed by one of the many things in the CW that can kill you.

 

2. The area the game takes place in is actually rather small. If a large enough bomb or enough bombs where dropped, it's not unrealistic to think the entire Eastern half of the country wouldn't be affected, or worse.

 

3. Well i guess it would be 220 years?

 

4. I agree here...nature finds a way. Granted, if you've played the game enough then you know there are signs of life coming back

Oasis, to me is like nature sprouting back after the fallout, although it would be more wide spread

 

 

5. Electricity and such in this game is far different than we have in real life. Everything is nuclear, which is why a lot of things still "work". This is how a 200 year old car can still explode, and how a radio that isn't even plugged into a power source can still play.

 

6. It does seem there would be some other radio sources and more wide spread communication...and there definitely would be more "outsiders" coming in because if DC was the hardest hit by the bombs then it's safe to assume that other areas would be at least somewhat better off (in some instances there could even be working cars and planes)

 

7. Look at the food people are eating...mirelurk meat, radroach meat, mutated bear and rat meat etc. People ARE hunting...for anything edible. Farming and manufacturing go back to the reason nothing else is getting fixed...there are no funds to make it happen. Even if you could grow something in the ground, chances are some raiders or worse would come in and ruin it for you.

 

8. There is obviously some corruption going on at Vaultec.

It seems ironic that the only vault that WASN'T an experiment was 101...that's the only part that never made sense to me.

 

 

9. I don't know about "best and brightest" but...

If you follow it close enough, you learn that James and the PC gain entrance to 101 AFTER the bombs fall...so it isn't that anyone and everyone could get in. I guess you had to be in the right crowd.

 

 

10. Dad..

is torn between raising his son and saving man kind. Put yourself in his shoes. Also he's faced with the death of his wife being in vain if the Purifier is never a reality. If he can succeed in getting the Purifier running, then he could go back for his son (just as you can get back into 101 later in the game, he could have too)

 

[Tony the Wookie]

 

The vaults were meant to allow people to live beyond the war, not for crazy experimentation, by an obviously

corrupt corporation.

 

 

You couldn't possibly be more wrong on that point, but I fixed it for you

 

 

The vaults were deffinatly meant for crazy experementation by an obviously corruptcorporation, and in no way, shape, or form meant to allow people to live beyond the war.

 

 

Anything that suggests that the vaults are meant to save anyone is just Vaultech Propaganda trying to get citizens to buy into thier crazy project.

[KDStudios]

8. There is obviously some corruption going on at Vaultec.

Spoiler

It seems ironic that the only vault that WASN'T an experiment was 101...that's the only part that never made sense to me.

 

 

 

Vault 101 !! W A S !! an experiment.

 

To see how long the human race can survive without ever leaving the vault. How many centuries could it take before the vault eventually turns on itself, because everything ends eventually... the youth of the vault wanted to get out (maybe even before the player and his dad managed to escape). Obviously the adults wanted to see what outside was like otherwise they would never have gone to Megaton.

 

So yes, all vaults were an experiment, NO exceptions. Vault 101 was an experiment.

[Nihilisaurus]

Except 13 which was an experiment but wasn't. It was supposed to be a "control" a sample of an experiment you know went right and according to plan. The the water chip went out and that gets thrown out of the window... Cue Enclave kidnapping of residents a few decades later for use in Mad Science.

[Kiralyn2000]

One key to remember about the Fallout universe - it's not meant to make sense or be "realistic". It runs purely on Style. 50's aesthetics, irrational 50s sci-fi movie mutant monsters, nuclear bombs that produced picturesque urban ruins rather than glassed-over fields of rubble.....

 

 

It's not trying to be The Day After or The Road. It's trying to be The Road Warrior. :)

[Scatterspell]

Why are a great majority of things in FO3 trashed?

[yes, I know about the war.]

The outskirts of DC should be unaffected by the bombs.

It's been how long after the bombs fell that the PC comes out of the vault?

20? or 200 years?

The fallout has fallen out, nature habitually repairs itself, water cannot be irradiated.

Why would anyone drink "heavy water", it's not water.

So no one from outside of DC comes to see if things are still right with America?

The radio stations and some of the electricity still works, meaning the EMP has passed.

No radio from outside of DC?

There are no working farms and no one hunts, and no one is manufacturing food.

They eat, basically, MREs.

The vaults were meant to allow people to live beyond the war, not for crazy experimentation, by an obviously

corrupt corporation.

As usual, only the "best and brightest" would have been chosen to enter the vaults. NOT in the game.

Why is the PIP-BOY so BIG?They had 200(?) years to make it better. Did all of those smart people just sit around and do nothing?

Possible Spoiler Alert Your Dad is no better than anyone else in the game, he seems to care, but ultimately he's a self-absorbed jerk.

 

This has to be the most inane post ever made. At least about Fallout 3.

[gengrimm]

Why are a great majority of things in FO3 trashed?

 

 

Think of the cold war X 10. Bombs and silos would have been every were. Targets would have been anywhere. The goal was mutually destruction of the planet, not tactical destruction of military.

 

It's been how long after the bombs fell that the PC comes out of the vault?

20? or 200 years?

 

200 years, one COULD theorize that there was some preservation of artifacts by nuclear winter. Though really I don't think there should have been any buildings left standing. But hey this is Sci-Fi, it wouldn't be as fun if it was just Sci.

 

The fallout has fallen out, nature habitually repairs itself, water cannot be irradiated.

I agree, I think some sort of Radioactive resistant plants would have developed. Perhaps they have just not everywhere. Another poster already explained radioactive dust can be dissolved into water.

thus making it a radioactive soultion. Purified water in containers is still clean though.

Why would anyone drink "heavy water", it's not water. Irrelevant

 

So no one from outside of DC comes to see if things are still right with America?

Everyone got hit, mutually assured destruction don't hit everyone but mexico, it means EVERYONE. Its sci-fi so they went Nuts and built enough bombs to hit everyone.

 

The radio stations and some of the electricity still works, meaning the EMP has passed.

EMp would have passed soon as all bombs in the area finished detonating.

 

No radio from outside of DC?

Agreed, bit silly, but has to do with it being a game, I'm sure they would have liked to, but takes time they didn't have.(they = bethesda)

There are no working farms and no one hunts, and no one is manufacturing food.

Agreed some towns should have had farms, like megaton, there is mutafruit but no mutafruit trees/bushes/whatever.

 

The vaults were meant to allow people to live beyond the war, not for crazy experimentation, by an obviously

corrupt corporation.

HAHAHA no. The were built to make money. The corporation decided to do some social experiments since they had some captive experimentees to work on.

Some vaults were designated Control and would not unlock until they were instructed to, i.e Vault 13, 101.

 

As usual, only the "best and brightest" would have been chosen to enter the vaults. NOT in the game.

Cause they are dead, except for Van Braun. Most people don't live 200 years...

 

Why is the PIP-BOY so BIG?They had 200(?) years to make it better. Did all of those smart people just sit around and do nothing?

They were in a vault, not a factory. They worked with what they had.

 

Possible Spoiler Alert Your Dad is no better than anyone else in the game, he seems to care, but ultimately he's a self-absorbed jerk.

Agreed, and he has not back story!!!!!! Were the @%_@% did he come from? Apparently scientists that read the bible just spontaneously generate in order to purify contaminated water for everybody.

(This is another example of Design limitations. There probably is a back story for him but was never released in the game and so is unknown. or Maybe they just didn't want to have to write 200 years of explanation of why he exists.

[DeadYorick]

 

It's not trying to be The Day After or The Road. It's trying to be The Road Warrior. :)

 

EXACTLY.

 

No one ever asks why Ghouls somehow exist or why aliens can somehow appear. No one ever questions why an extremely irradiated human being will only decay into a zombie-like being instead of die. People instead nit picket at the less obvious stuff like how long radiation can stay in water etc.

 

Fallout is entirely fictional. Wars with commies in China, ray guns, robots with lightbulbs for heads etc. All 1950's era propaganda and comic book stuff.

 

 

Why is the PIP-BOY so BIG?They had 200(?) years to make it better. Did all of those smart people just sit around and do nothing?

They were in a vault, not a factory. They worked with what they had.

 

 

Wasn't the Pipboy also designed to be as durable as a tank? I mean look at the damned thing. As Stanley says, you could probably drop a bomb on it and it wouldn't do a damned thing.