Wyre Bash / OBMM help please

[Rlburgendy]

Need help. I recentley capped the mod limit and decided i would get Wyre Bash to bash all my UL compatibility patches. After i downloaded it asked " Disable lock times " and i accidentley pushed no. After that i turned off, uninstalled, then reinstalled. Checked OBMM and my load order was in tact, after reinstalling Wyre Bash ( didnt ask that time but i turned it off manually ) the load order is completley alphabetical in Wyre Bash but in OBMM its still the way i left it. Witch load order will the game use OBMM or Wyre.

 

Also...(before wyre bash) When i started reaching my mod limit my game would crash on startup. At first i didnt know what was going on so i tried disabling some mods through OBMM, at first it started working after i disabled a mod or 2 and i went on playing. After getting a few more mods ( didnt know i had 2 many ) and activating them the game started crashing on startup. I tried disabling all of the new mods, but it still crashed. Disabled about 2 extra mods and it worked. Thinking that I had 1 mod that was screwing me over i activated each file 1 by 1 ( activated a file... waited... started oblivion to check for a crash ) I ended up activating all my files again with no crashes ( i found out later i had about 258 mods going at 1 time, not counting textures and other sound / mesh replacers ) and my game started and played with no crashes for a whole day.. even when i turned it off and came back for a hour it worked. But for some reason when i restart my computer oblivion crashes on start up again and i had to repeat the process. Exept this time ( after wyre ) my game wont seem to start no matter what i do.

[Tomlong54210]

You need to sort your LO by load order in Wrye Bash. Click on the appropriate tab. You do not understand what is going on...one problem at a time. You do not understand how to use Wrye Bash.

 

Wrye Bash - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/prep/wrye-bash <-- read all of it (though there is no reason to concern yourself with BAIN)

Bash Mod's Tab - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/prep/wrye-bash/bashmodstab <-- You NEED to read this

Finishing the Installation - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall <-- do not skip anything

[Rlburgendy]

You need to sort your LO by load order in Wrye Bash. Click on the appropriate tab. You do not understand what is going on...one problem at a time. You do not understand how to use Wrye Bash.

 

Wrye Bash - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/prep/wrye-bash <-- read all of it (though there is no reason to concern yourself with BAIN)

Bash Mod's Tab - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/prep/wrye-bash/bashmodstab <-- You NEED to read this

Finishing the Installation - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall <-- do not skip anything

 

I just fixed it some how by uninstalling wyrebash deactivating all my mods ( with the reg oblivion launcher, .. this didnt work when i disabled with OBMM ) then reactivating all of them exept for around 12 to stay away from load limit. I downloaded Wyre Bash fine that wasnt the problom i used auto installer. The main thing im looking out for is if i restart my computer will oblivion start crashing on load up again ( been doing that for the last 2 days ) or will it be fine with less then maximum mods. Another thing it would be nice to know is how exactley do i " combine mods " or " bash " or however u say it so i wont take up all my mod list.

thats the only reason i got Wyre Bash in the first place, planing on just combining all my compatibility patches for UL's witch will free up like 20 mod spaces. ( If u can do that? ). Also wanna combine lots of building add ons if that will work. My game is bugging out on launch sometimes but it NEVER crashes or does anything weird at all in game. I do have the crash preventer tho.

 

If any one can tell me how to get my mods to work without crashing on startup after restarts.. Witch happens even without Wyre Bash installed. ( And do i need to set up my whole load order in Wyre Bash all over again if i already have it in OBMM? )

[Rlburgendy]

K more weird things... re-activated my mods works again... works again... download a new mod in OMOD format ( assassins creed 2 armor revised ) started it up and a crash on start up. Well oviousley the mod wont work for me disable mod... start up oblivion Crash! again... damn ... time to restart the process

[Tomlong54210]

Crashing on load is usually do to missing masters. It sounds like you are dealing with a large mess that you do not really know how to manage. Do you even know that your load order is okay?

 

 

Edit: I do not think you have fixed anything. You do not know what the problem is, and neither do I. A number of things can cause loading to fail. If it is failing randomly, you should check your load order. Please read the linked information.

 

Load Ordering - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall/loadorder <-- You need to fix this.

[zany chimp]

Listen to tomlong! A startup crash sounds like a load order problem. Don't rush things.

[Rlburgendy]

Crashing on load is usually do to missing masters. It sounds like you are dealing with a large mess that you do not really know how to manage. Do you even know that your load order is okay?

 

 

Edit: I do not think you have fixed anything. You do not know what the problem is, and neither do I. A number of things can cause loading to fail. If it is failing randomly, you should check your load order. Please read the linked information.

 

Load Ordering - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall/loadorder <-- You need to fix this.

 

I use BOSS

I know it sounds like a load order but let me start out by saying. I just started oblivion squeky clean and fine nothing happened no crashes... then i loaded Visual Enchantments ( newer version ) and crash on start up. Then i disable Visual Enchantments in OBMM, then i uninstall it, everything should be fine, but NO it still crashes on start up with the exact same load order and mods it ran perfectley litralley 5 minutes ago? This has been a ring around with any mod in my load order its not that there causing it to crash thats why i want to know whats going on. This has happened 5 times ive fixed it every time by dissabling all my mods in Original Oblivion launcher disabling 3-4 random mods then reactivating them all and starting up oblivion (after i start it up with no mods running, because it doesnt work if i dont launch it inbatween, WEIRD? ya exactley why im posting) Sometimes this wont work either so ill disable .. as a example 6 more small mods repeate the process and it works... sweet there we go... then i try to activate my mods again 1 by 1 i activate and launch looking for a crash but i end up activating all 10 with no crashes and can play.. then i stretch it and activate another 2 mods 1 by 1 and still working then i keep going usally between 2-4 mods activated after that it crashes on startup.. and EVEN IF i deactivate the mod i just activated that causes a crash it still crashes and i have to do all this over again. Sometimes i even get another 10 mods going but again a random number of mods and a random type of mod later it crashes on start up and i have to do it all over again.

 

This ISNT a single mod conflicting and NONE of these mods im activating need a master i dont have these mods im testing this weirdness with are things like Dreadweave Complete, Tyreal Armor, C and C blackwood, Conted Prisoner, Nascstose isles, Castle of Night. And to make things even WEIRDER i have gotten every single one of those mods to work.. ive even goten all of those mods to work TOGETHER... but if i add another ( on a random amount not the mod cap ) it will crash and keep crashing even after removing that mod and i have to do my usual anoying fix. And most of these mods have caused crashes on activating.

 

Ive never head of any one having these probs but ill put a few things i use if this has ever happened before... FCOM, Script Optimizer, Deadly Reflex, Adrenalen fuled Combat, Supreme Magicka, Midas Magick... those are some of the biggys. If any one has any ideas whats going on ill try whatever fix u have in mind, and im making a new game any way because i was planning on getting Shivering Isles so dont worry about game breaking saves.

[Tomlong54210]

The script optimizer is buggy. Do not use it. Please post your LO with Wrye Bash. You should spend hours testing the FCOM setup before adding to it. Right-click on the File tab in Wrye Bash and choose "list mods."

[Rlburgendy]

sry double post

[Rlburgendy]

The script optimizer is buggy. Do not use it. Please post your LO with Wrye Bash. You should spend hours testing the FCOM setup before adding to it. Right-click on the File tab in Wrye Bash and choose "list mods."

 

Ok reinstalled wyre bash Uninstalled script optimizer i have tested FCOM many hours. This load order is very big sorry about that. I also have Stutter reducer but ive configured it to work with Streamline. The UL patch says im missing fules snails racing master but it didnt work with it either ill add it back in because my patches are in one OMOD that is not the reason for the crashing tho.. i just took that out like 1 min ago. Same thing goes for Black wood company all this was taken out 1 minut ago as im still trying to do my usual fix

 

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01 GTAesgaard_2.esm

02 Cybiades.esm [Version 2.0]

03 Windfall.esm

04 Jog_X_Mod.esm

05 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

06 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

07 Children Of Rourken.esm

08 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]

09 Qarls_Harvest.esm

0A Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]

0B Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b1]

0C TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]

0D FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]

0E Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

0F AFC v2 Core.esm

10 Progress.esm [Version 2.0]

11 DA Run Fatigue.esm

12 HorseCombatMaster.esm

13 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.6]

14 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

15 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

16 FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]

17 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]

18 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]

19 LoadingScreens.esp

1A LoadingScreensAddOn.esp

1B Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael_RD.esp

1C Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

1D Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp

1E Better Bell Sounds.esp

1F Symphony of Violence.esp

20 MIS.esp

21 MIS Low Wind.esp

22 Cities Alive At Night.esp

23 WindowLightingSystem.esp

24 AFC v2 Combo Chains.esp

25 AFC v2 Combat Moves.esp

26 AFC v2 Damage Text.esp

27 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

28 ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

29 DaggerfallBooks.esp

2A ES4_Alchemists Reference.esp

2B Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp

2C Qarls_Harvest.esp

2D Regrowing Nirnroot - Dissappear Reappear.esp [Version 1.01]

2E Reznod_Mannequin.esp

2F Wyverex's - Runes.esp

30 Landmarks, w Wells.esp [Version 1.11]

31 HouseMapMarkersOnlyBought.esp

32 Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete V2.esp

33 Ancient Silver Armor.esp

34 DMACArmor.esp

35 ElegantVests.esp

36 HelmetCollection.esp

37 KDDwemerSpectacles.esp

38 M.O.E. - New Staffs, Blight and Ashstorms.esp [Version 2]

39 New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

3A PTArtifacts.esp

3B SentientWeapon.esp [Version 3]

3C SilverwareWeapons.esp

3D tda_ScytheModv1.2.esp

3E Tyrael Armor.esp

3F VA_UniqueKatana1.esp

40 VA_UniqueKatana1Replace.esp

41 Thieves Arsenal.esp

42 Dude Wheres My Horse.esp

43 ExnemRuneskulls.esp

44 FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]

45 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]

46 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]

47 FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]

48 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

49 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]

4A Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

4B FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]

4C Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]

4D FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]

4E FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]

4F FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]

50 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]

51 FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]

52 FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]

53 FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]

54 Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b1]

55 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b1]

56 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b1]

57 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]

58 FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]

59 FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]

5A FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]

5B FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9]

5C FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9]

5D LoadingScreens-OOO.esp

5E C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp

----> MISSING MASTER: C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp

5F KnightlyArmory.esp

60 Castle Ravenpride.esp [Version 1.01]

61 Ivellon.esp [Version 1.8]

62 Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp

63 Artefacts of the Ancestors.esp

64 AyleidArrows.esp [Version 1.8]

65 Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp

66 BHC_Expanded.esp [Version 1.2]

67 BravilSeaDomes.esp

68 castleofnight.esp

69 COR-Episode1 Secret of Enourk.esp

6A Demonhunter.esp

6B DexwoodsHideout.esp

6C Dwemer_Skyship_1_1_0.esp

6D GTAesgaard.esp

6E GTAesgaard_2.esp

6F Gates To Aesgaard 2 Delayer.esp [Version 1.0]

70 HauntedHouse.esp

71 Jagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.esp

72 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

73 Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp

74 Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp

75 GlenvarCastle.esp

76 LetThePeopleDrink.esp [Version 2.5]

77 LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp

78 LostSwordOfTheAylied - OBSE Add-On.esp

79 M.O.E. - Tools of Kagrenac - The Secret of White Gold Tower.esp [Version 6]

7A MadMagesTower.esp

7B Malevolent.esp

7C ME_DAEDRIC_RECON.esp [Version 1.4]

7D MountainTower.esp [Version 6.0]

7E Museum.esp

7F Quest For The Elements.esp

80 ScarletMonastery.esp

81 Septim Mansion.esp

82 Servant of the Dawn.esp

83 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.3.2]

84 TheForgottenShields.esp

85 TheStorytellersBrotherQuest.esp

86 Thievery.esp

87 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp

88 VHBloodlines 1.2.esp [Version 1.4]

89 WOTFH_1.3.esp

8A Windfall.esp

8B za_bankmod.esp

8C 24HrArenaAliveV2.esp

8D M.O.E. - Visit Valen Dreth Topic.esp [Version 1]

8E Cybiades.esp [Version 2.1]

8F CybiadesDungeon.esp [Version 2.1]

90 TOTF.esp

91 The Lost Spires.esp

92 Mighty Umbra.esp

93 Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp [Version 1.51]

94 Blood&Mud.esp

95 Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

96 MannimarcoRevisited.esp

97 MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp [Version 0.1]

98 Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp

99 FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp [Version 0.9.9]

9A FCOM_WelkyndSwordBlood&Mud.esp [Version 0.9.9]

9B BrewHouse.esp

9C xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]

9D LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp

9E xulTheHeath.esp

9F XulEntiusGorge.esp

A0 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]

A1 LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp [Version 1.2]

A2 Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp

A3 mythsandlegends.esp

A4 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3]

A5 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.2]

A6 SentientWeaponII-AncientYews patch.esp

A7 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]

A8 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]

A9 MadMagesTower-CloudtopMountains patch.esp

AA xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2]

AB NakedNord.esp

AC xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.5]

AD Fuses Snail Racing Unique Landscapes Imperial Isle patch.esp

----> MISSING MASTER: FuseSnailRacing.esp

AE xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]

AF Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

B0 GiftOfKynareth-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

B1 TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

B2 KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

B3 CastleRavenpride-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

B4 DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

B5 bartholm.esp

B6 Moriarcis.esp

B7 Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

B8 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

B9 Bag of Alchemy.esp

BA Bottled_Explosions.esp

BB M.O.E. - Travel Services.esp [Version 3]

BC M.O.E. - Icons for Mythic Dawn Armour - Fix.esp [Version 1]

BD M.O.E. - Lycanthropy and Lichcraft.esp [Version 7]

BE M.O.E. - New Classes.esp [Version 1]

BF Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]

C0 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.1.1]

C1 Werewolf-Legends.esp

C2 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]

C3 M.O.E. - Hunger Effects.esp [Version 1]

C4 DA Fatigued Running.esp

C5 DA Sprint.esp

C6 M.O.E. - Vampire Clan Raelu.esp [Version 6]

C7 M.O.E. - Vampire Players Scarier.esp [Version 2]

C8 M.O.E. - Ethereal State Spell.esp [Version 1]

C9 M.O.E. - Mythic Dawn Powers.esp [Version 1]

CA M.O.E. - Teleportation Magic and Icarian Flight.esp [Version 2]

CB PJs Spell Compendium - Spell Requirements.esp

CC SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.89]

CD SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89]

CE SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89]

CF SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86]

D0 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80]

D1 SM_UnlockSpells.esp [Version 0.70]

D2 SM_NoSpellLights.esp [Version 0.70]

D3 SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84]

D4 SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83]

D5 MidasSpells.esp

D6 Midas OscuroGems.esp

D7 Midas Betterholy.esp

D8 Mart's Monster Mod - Midas Creature Ingredients.esp

D9 Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp

DA Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp

DB LightSpellWhiteDimmer.esp

DC Faster Spells.esp

DD EnchantmentRestore.esp

DE StealthOverhaul.esp

DF M.O.E. - Realistic Law Enforcement - Part One.esp [Version 1]

E0 M.O.E. - Realistic Law Enforcement - Part Two.esp [Version 2]

E1 No psychic guards v1.2.esp

E2 JM's Bar Fights.esp

E3 Longer_KnockOut-6523.esp

E4 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

E5 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

E6 SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.86]

E7 Deadly Reflex Bow Sway.esp

E8 Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp

E9 ProgressMBSP.esp [Version 2.0]

EA ProgressSBSP.esp [Version 1.0]

EB ProgressRacial.esp

EC ProgressArmorer.esp [Version 1.0]

ED RealisticLeveling.esp

EE All+5AttributeModifiers.esp

EF Legendary Abilities-Fortify Health MOJ.esp

F0 Dark Dungeons.esp

F1 M.O.E. - Unlocked Hairstyles.esp [Version 1]

F2 Beautiful People.esp

F3 Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp

F4 [GFX]_Initial_Glow-self.esp

F5 Chameleon-NoRefraction-2411.esp

F6 Detect Life Shader.esp

F7 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

F8 CybBPcompatibility.esp

F9 Streamline 3.1.esp

FA Assassin's Creed 2 Revisited.esp